Dragonknights Reflective Scales

oMrRust · February 2017

So, Many of you may be against this probably cause you main DK or whatever
or some may agree with this.

But Reflective Scales needs a nerf.

-Longer Duration
-Infinite Reflecting
-Chance to reflect. like 20%-40% ?

Reason for this though is cause it completely counters magicka nightblades, or magicka sorcerers
seeing how there is a ton of DKs in PVP lately or PVE. It just makes Ranged DPS hard to play when DKs could spam it every 4 seconds.
with my MagSorc I can only use Curse and Force Pulse or lightning heavy attack (staff)
but my magblade is fully range and I have to run away from a MagDK cause I stand no chance, only could do restoration staff heavy attack or meteor.

pjwb16_ESO · February 2017

Do whatever the *** you want with Scales, they're useless as *** and not worth running anymore cause they only reflect Funnel and Frags and even those only sometimes like in duels but everything else bypasses it anyways. I really hope you're trolling cause since Homestead Magicka Dks are one of the easiest to fight against als Magicka Sorcs, most Magicka Sorcs are just way to stupid to actually use the mechanics that are in their favour...
So if you're not trolling, have fun, whatever you do with wings cant be worse then what it is now...

RoyJade · February 2017

Nope. It cost a lot, have a short duration, is entirely skill-based and is only a hard counter against a few build. Sorc doesn't have a big problem with it anymore (curse/wrath/force pulse is enough), only pure bow and ranged magNB have problem.

RNG based mechanism are already a pain, I don't want to see scale become one of them.

MakoFore · February 2017

nah dos need it- they havent got mobility, so in order to withstand it- they need to be able to control their area. templars have purges and so on to lock down their areas, Dk's have talons and wings. mag sorcs have plenty of skills to beat a Dk, streak around and beat them from range,

pjwb16_ESO · February 2017

You can see how well Wings work against Mageblade in this Video at minute 12:00 following

https://youtu.be/O3mdpHaf-80
And this was during the height if Magicka DKs when they were considered strong, and before any Wings nerfs we're applied. So if you still suck at Mageblade please learn to play instead of filling the forums with your QQ about a useless skill...

Spliffo · February 2017

I main a magsorc and scales doesn't need a nerf it only reflects 4 spells and does nothing but drag the fight out against a player that actually knows what they are doing and how to counter it. Simply a l2p issue

kyle.wilson · February 2017

OhAmex wrote: »

So, Many of you may be against this probably cause you main DK or whatever
or some may agree with this.

But Reflective Scales needs a nerf.

-Longer Duration
-Infinite Reflecting
-Chance to reflect. like 20%-40% ?

Reason for this though is cause it completely counters magicka nightblades, or magicka sorcerers
seeing how there is a ton of DKs in PVP lately or PVE. It just makes Ranged DPS hard to play when DKs could spam it every 4 seconds.
with my MagSorc I can only use Curse and Force Pulse or lightning heavy attack (staff)
but my magblade is fully range and I have to run away from a MagDK cause I stand no chance, only could do restoration staff heavy attack or meteor.

The last patch did have "nerfs" to scales.
Force Shock: This ability and its morphs can no longer be reflected. Beam-type attacks cannot be reflected, but are able to be blocked.
That's the #1 spam skill of most destro staff users.
I used to be able to prevent being chained by a dk by using wings. Not anymore.
But the lack of mobility of the magdk, make wings a necessity in order to have a fighting chance in pvp.
If they ever fix mobility issues of light armor nonsorcs, we'll talk about this nerf.

AzraelKrieg · February 2017

The damn skill has been nerfed to the ground since 2014. It doesn't need anymore nerfs. It doesn't need buffs either.

Banana · February 2017

It's already a shadow of its former self.

Wollust · February 2017

Scales is probably the skill that has gotten the most nerfs in the game.. It's not even worth slotting anymore, that's how bad it is.

DHale · February 2017

It actually needs to work snipes get through it all the time

Aquanova · February 2017

It does not counter magicka NB at all unless all your only using is swallow soul and merciless resolve. Magicka Sorc is OP as hell with all the skills they can get past wings as some have mentioned above.

This is a L2P issue on your part OP

Asgari · February 2017

These threads make me laugh. 3 years later people still looking for nerfs on scales. Is there even more nerfs you can do to it that hasn't been done already?

Bashev · February 2017

Are you serious? This is the buggiest skill ever in the game. I cannot count how many times it was bugged and with how many different bugs. There is a hard cap of 4 projectiles per 4 seconds. So if you weave light attack with projectile the third and the forth projectile are unreflectable. It doesnt matter how much the DK spam the skill --> https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/323131/bug-reflective-scale#latest

Joy_Division · February 2017

Pretty sure troll thread.

GreenhaloX · February 2017

Oh yes, for a stamDK, this takes up too much of my majicka that I really do not have. So, I rarely slot it. Have to save majicka for Igneous Shield and works as well to block projectiles.

Eirella · February 2017

No, scales does not need a nerf, and I say that as someone who mains a mag sorc. They should go back to reflecting meteors, it was always kinda fun not knowing if they'd be reflected back at my face xD

mb10 · February 2017

It's damn good in pve though
When it's you vs a mob rather than constantly shielding or healing you can just wings and attack them at the same time

Voxicity · February 2017

Go ahead and nerf it, no decent DK slots it anyway

Lynx7386 · February 2017

Stop adding more RNG to the game. I don't want to be playing the *** lotto with my skills

t3hdubzy · February 2017

Cant remeber the last time i died by scales. It was probably back in 2014

lucky_Sage · February 2017

the spell sucks it cost a lot cant reflect stealth animation cancled abilities and reflect most sorc spells. not enough magblades or bow builds to use. havnt used in over a month. and its a learn to play issue it really hard to keep up all the time

MaxwellC · February 2017

@OhAmex
Go for it big fella, my wings have been clipped far enough so you might as well just rip them off of me. It's not like Mag sorcs aren't the easiest and strongest class in PvP right now but definitely the Mag DKs are so OP or DKs in general.

lucky_Sage · February 2017

you've given up on wings havnt you lol
@MaxwellC

Brutusmax1mus · February 2017

It's pretty damn strong against my build in duels I'll be honest. But that being said you can play on its cost. Try and cast, watch them pop and cancel. Do that a few times and they have to keep it up or they will day oh he won't cast and get lazy with keeping it up. There's you opportunity.

sneakymitchell · February 2017

Oh ok let me not use wings they already cost quite a bit. I think u should learn how to counter them. But hey that's not my problem.

Ch4mpTW · February 2017

OP, are you aware of the amount of nerfs that DK flappers have gotten in this game's history...? Are you kidding me? It's already a joke of a skill. And you want it further nerfed? Smfh. As it is, you could simply bait wings and wait it out. You know. Basically playing with strategy. But nope. You want them dead. It's good that you weren't around when wings could reflect meteors, and all that jazz. You'd really be upset, and asking for nerfs.

MaxwellC · February 2017

@lucky_Sage
Lol you know why meteors were no longer reflect-able? I made a forum post and it received a lot of attention with a video clearly showing the meteor not reflect (Over 500+ views on the Xbox DvR). Let's say next patch meteors were no longer reflect-able because it's an ultimate..... So what about overload and the bow ultimate lmao?

My DK has been clipped and I kinda just resolved myself into it never getting what it really needs which is resource management in magicka reduction across all DK skills (like 300-600 in the heavy costing ones i.e. igneous shield and DB) and a new form of battle roar where if I use an ultimate I should gain like 20 ultimate or even 30 over x seconds that way it'll aid what our regeneration was suppose to be.

I've stopped playing PvP as it has gotten terribly out of hand with the lag being unbearable and my class simply having nothing 'fun' to use in PvP e.g. Flames of Oblivion AoE.

sirston · February 2017

OhAmex wrote: »

So, Many of you may be against this probably cause you main DK or whatever
or some may agree with this.

But Reflective Scales needs a nerf.

-Longer Duration
-Infinite Reflecting
-Chance to reflect. like 20%-40% ?

Reason for this though is cause it completely counters magicka nightblades, or magicka sorcerers
seeing how there is a ton of DKs in PVP lately or PVE. It just makes Ranged DPS hard to play when DKs could spam it every 4 seconds.
with my MagSorc I can only use Curse and Force Pulse or lightning heavy attack (staff)
but my magblade is fully range and I have to run away from a MagDK cause I stand no chance, only could do restoration staff heavy attack or meteor.

-Longer Duration- OH yeh 4's is sooo long.
-Infinite Reflecting its only a few objects and 50% of things casted now are no longer reflectable.
-Chance to reflect. like 20%-40% ? then can I get unlimited reflecting for duration since your logic has no balance in mind?

you should've made this 2 years ago when I reflected meteors and 1KDB people with there own ultimate.

Surragard · February 2017

Joy_Division wrote: »

Pretty sure troll thread.

I fully agree based on how its written.

FriedEggSandwich · February 2017

It doesn't need a nerf. It's really obvious to see and you can just count to 4 and then try to cast your reflectable before they recast wings; this is fun counterplay. Look for the orange "force field" particle effects that remain in front of the dk as they move around. DK wings are sorc bane until you learn to play around them. You can even purposefully fire a frags at them when they have wings up and then cast defensive rune to cc them from range, because your frags became their frags when they sent it back to you. You can block a reflected frags and it will hardly do any damage. If a mdk is flawlessly keeping wings up and you can't hit them then they are working hard and you should probs find a different target. Don't fight scissors if you're paper.