Almost everything you said is wrong actually.
The crafting stations can be used, you can even get ones that can be bound to a set, so you can craft the set in your house.
The 'manniquin' is actually a training dummy.
You can put up cooking stations.
You can put books into shelves.
Yes it is true there is no storage function for items.

And yes this is phase 1, they said they would add gardening at a later point, but did not specify what they actually mean with it.
If it is only going to be a cosmetic thing or if you can actually grow your own ingrediants.

I hope this helps you

EternalDiva wrote: »

Hi Xerton, Ive read that the crafting stations etc are not functional. This from other folks who had purchased them.

I couldn't find crafting stations for sale in the crown store even though Id read that they were available there. So, Im wondering if these things were available in the public test realm but haven't been completely rolled out? Or, somehow I missed the tab? I looked under housing and furniture.

If you purchased functional ones, where did you get them?

Maybe they are only available from a vendor? I only found one vendor so far and when I clicked on her furniture tab it was completely devoid of anything. Not one thing for sale.

also, WOW, thanks for the news on possible gardens. OMG I would totally love that! that and a few chickens please!

Crafting stations are functional. i have just finished setting up the first trio - woodworking, smithing and clothier - in my khajiit Sleek house. I will have to photobucket etc if i take the time later to show you.

There were some folks who made a lot of noise about non-functional stations but they had an error. They were looking at "furniture" that looked like crafting stations a bit too much. those items had the ability to interact and turn off the firepit etc just like lights and other items. but those are furnishings not stations. So those folks got confused and of course immediately rage spammed because thats acceptable behavior,in real life, right, so they do it on the net too?

Crafting stations of the functional type are available from the master Writ vendor, where you turn in your vouchers after getting those cool golden writs. Each costs 35 vouchers and all seven types are available - wood, cloth, metal, alchemy, enchanting, provisioning and dye. Thesame vendor can sell you attunable stations for the first three for a whopping 250 vouchers each. You take one of those to any set station in the world - like say the clever alchemist one inside the stronghold that you always have to fight to get into thru traps and gargoyles - and sync your attunable station with it and then go home. once you place the now "Clever Woodworking Station" you can craft Clever Alchemist wood stuff safely there, in your home and so can your friends though i have not tested that myself yet so lets say that is a unconfirmed aspect.

i imagine some of the more "inaccessible" stations (read IC/PVP) will get setup in nicely furnished homes in short order. I know i have plans.

But since i just deconned quite a bit of gear while standing there watching my pet scamp "Shrimp" get frustrated with the lynx... I can tell you, they work - rages and rants to the contrary.

less than three days in and my home has three stations in place and i crafted a nice High Elf table to give to a friend for their house warming. three days... doing mostly the usual stuff and some fun decorating. (Could have had it in two days but i spent 10 vouchers on a random furnishing thingy at the same vendor and so wound up with 100 vouchers not 105.)

if this stuff moved as fast as many auto-ragers are complaining about - the auto-ragers would be screaming in a week about how "already done with it. Another set of quickly done content. great ZoS. When will you give us something that takes a while to do?"

Second law of Nerf-o-Dynamics - The amount of griping is a constant. gripes may converted between gripe-entangled pairs with opposite spins (like "taking to long"-"over too quick" or "too long since we got new info"-"this new info sucks") but the total amount will remain a constant.

Yeah, it's very barebones at the moment, but if this is a base they'll build on then I'm happy it's here. A lot of players seem to be enjoying what it offers, so that's great news, and I just get to save my gold and Crowns. When weapon/armour display happens, I'll be on board. Storage would be nice, but personally I'd just like it to link to my bank. I like having all my items in one place that I can sort through, not have to check thirty different shelves, chests, cupboards, and barrels to work out what I put where. But if buying a house added X extra banking slots depending on the house's size, and maybe also be upgradeable, I'd love that.

I do find it VERY strange that I can teleport to any fully furnished house from anywhere in the game and think "The ONLY thing I would gain by spending on this, is being able to move the furniture around..." I can just as easily roleplay that my character owns that house without buying it

You need to do crafting writs, or buy a crafting station from a guild vendor.

I have blacksmithing, woodworking and clothworking stations in my house and i'm working towards getting provisioning, enchanting, alchemy and dye station (yes, dye station)

Not only that but for 250 writ vouchers you can get a crafting station that you can attune to the crafted set craft stations, so you can have a clothing station of Julianos or blacksmithing of twice born star in your house.

If you have the banker assistant you can place them in your house and you or any other character you have added to your visitor list can use their functionality.

I've found the best location for finding blueprints and patterns is Anvil bank and the Gold coast trade company in Anvil, but that's just my preference.

EternalDiva wrote: »

Its nice to have a house. but really, what can I do with it?

I think housing is, in any MMO, a pure vanity thing. It can possibly serve as a community meeting place for RP folks or guilds, but I really don't see the point, cause you can talk in chat and discord anyways. Why inconveniently port to another place to have guild discussions/meetings?

Personally, it's a relief that I don't give a damn about housing... I've seen ppl invest hundreds of dollars, gold and time into buying the house and then decorating it. When I log off from game, it's not like my character is freezing to death on the road, so why does he need a house? when the same gold, time, and money could be invested on other contents like PvE, PvP gearing, crafting, and etc.

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Crafting stations pretty useless function.

Who crafts gear with no set bonus? Very dumb.

Very dumb is quite right...

i use my crafting stations in house for decons across multiple characters with free ports to them and back and forth etc. Saves me a chunk of time each and every day to be sure. three skill lines advancing quickly deconning the drops from the others.
Also, i craft pieces not sets for other characters to use for research. no set needed. have multiple charactrers doing multiple researches as we speak-type. Again, saves me time every day.

Somewhere by morrowind or thereabouts i plan to have six set-based stations setup in my home too which I and my friends will be able to use freely without needing to traipse out to them - again saving time (and if it happens to be a pvp set - saving cyrodil nonsense or if its clever saving the fight into the citadel station.)

very dumb... yeah... something was indeed...very dumb

Folks have different priorities and goals and those lead to differing valuations when a variety of options are presented.


Dumb really doesn't play there.

Respectfully.

There's this little thing called an MVP.

Minimum Viable Product

You can buy houses, walk into them, put crap in them, and have other people over to them.

That's what housing absolutely 100% needed to be @ launch and that's what it was.

Yes the game has been out for a long time , but we have no idea when their team was actually allowed to start on it, and how much else they had going on while working on it.

But "waaaaaah" i hear you typing, "THEY HAD SO MUCH TIME WAHHHHHHHH" . Their coders/programmers don't get to decide what gets worked on when. We don't know who makes those decisions within the company. Sure Firor is a producer, but he answers to somebody, who probably answers to somebody, etc.

I'm sure the team and business would have LOVED to have had housing out on day 1. That'd mean more enjoyment for the player which the dev team would love, and more money coming in which the business would have loved. As we can see, the crown store , which was not available at launch, was a big part of housing. It's clear to me that since the game has been out, ZOS has been working in carefully calculated steps which i can understand and appreciate as a developer of a different sort myself. (web)

People become children and whine about what should have been , not stopping to think for a moment how development works. If ZOS has waited until housing was going to be all that it will eventually be and launched it with no future updates planned, we might not have seen it for a year or more. Be happy with what you have, jesus.

The amount of ignorant threads out there right now is astounding.

@ZOS_GinaBruno , you don't have to reply, but know that at least some of us understand the way things work. You guys are doing a fantastic job. I'm 100% certain that there are far more hurdles and challenges associated with all this that we don't know about/understand, but despite that, you have a quality product out there.

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

hmsdragonfly wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Crafting stations pretty useless function.

Who crafts gear with no set bonus? Very dumb.

Lol there are crafting stations with set bonus.

So I do not have DLC... You're saying I can goto someone's house with a DLC crafting set, and hence I can make that DLC set without the DLC???

Awesome!!!
Thank you, best news I heard today!

Or once we setup the cyrodil station for armor master in my sleek creek house right outside rawlkha... no sewers and gankers.

Is it just me, or is it a little weird how @Stevil seems to be in every housing complaint thread, expounding at great length about how wrong everyone else who complains is?

If you look at Cyrodil, nope.

Mirelurk wrote: »

Is it just me, or is it a little weird how @Stevil seems to be in every housing complaint thread, expounding at great length about how wrong everyone else who complains is?

And typically he IS correct... because most of the 'complaints' are either misconceptions or mistakes on the complainer's part because they don't understand how something within Housing actually works. So many complaints are based on assumptions or 'what they've heard'... I love the quote from an NPC who says, "You know, the biggest liar in all of Tamriel is, 'they say'".

@Allen1982 is practicing as a necromancer.

With a totally useless quote without any new text, even.

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