ESO Playerbase - bigger on PC or PS4?

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · February 2017

I'm sure PC has the largest population, and dammit, they're all in my instance! ZOS, thin the heard!

qsnoopyjr · February 2017

UrQuan wrote: »

Put aside all of the utter BS people throw about to try to make generalizations about the types of people who play on each platform. It's garbage.

Well, I'm a marketer, thats what marketers do.
Brainstorm
Then we put people into sterotypes, which a nicer word is "segments", even nicer word is "target market"

Its true though, goto a basketball court, it will mostly be black guys, they will be mostly wearing ***. Not a generalization, its fact. Just like the other facts I said.

But yes, this is about PS4 vs PC. Well, they same, but don't let that make you think PC has more players because there is a thing called console wars, aka PS4 vs XboxOne.... Notice how PC is not even a consideration.
Next notice, who plays on PS4 and XboxOne... Do you picture 45 year olds? 65 year olds? Aka Gen X and Baby Boomers? Or do you picture 31 year old? 22 year old? 18 year old?
Now look at PC... Enough said.

I'll start using the words segments and target market from now on... Sterotypes lil too much for some people to handle.
When you want to be the best, make the most. You gotta be tough. Cant be weak and avoid facts just for sake of not hurting feelings.

luen79rwb17_ESO · February 2017

Can't give an opinion in terms of population. I only play on PC and all zones are crowded, alot of people online.

But I must say that in terms of user experience PC is still by far my preferred choice because of addons and mouse and keyboard.

Addons make or break the game in terms of QoL for me. Especially advanced filters and awesome guild store, will save you hours of game time (not exaggerating).

Mouse and keyboard gameplay is much faster and intuitive. Many keys for so many functions.

UrQuan · February 2017

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Put aside all of the utter BS people throw about to try to make generalizations about the types of people who play on each platform. It's garbage.

Well, I'm a marketer, thats what marketers do.
Brainstorm
Then we put people into sterotypes, which a nicer word is "segments", even nicer word is "target market"

Its true though, goto a basketball court, it will mostly be black guys, they will be mostly wearing ***. Not a generalization, its fact. Just like the other facts I said.

But yes, this is about PS4 vs PC. Well, they same, but don't let that make you think PC has more players because there is a thing called console wars, aka PS4 vs XboxOne.... Notice how PC is not even a consideration.
Next notice, who plays on PS4 and XboxOne... Do you picture 45 year olds? 65 year olds? Aka Gen X and Baby Boomers? Or do you picture 31 year old? 22 year old? 18 year old?
Now look at PC... Enough said.

I'll start using the words segments and target market from now on... Sterotypes lil too much for some people to handle.
When you want to be the best, make the most. You gotta be tough. Cant be weak and avoid facts just for sake of not hurting feelings.

If you're a marketer, I'd hate to see the kind of work you produce. You need data to do analysis. You don't have any data, you're just throwing around your assumptions based on stereotypes without even considering the inherently different market for an MMO vs. the types of games that are typically played on consoles (notice that MMOs are huge on PC, but almost non-existent on consoles).

The fact is that you don't have the data needed to have any clue what the population is on either PS4 or Xbox compared to PC. Neither do I. Neither do any of us. Only ZOS has the data needed to figure that out.

qsnoopyjr · February 2017

I dont really need exact data, no one has that.
There are things called industry trends.
Aka Industry... Gulp. Sterotypes.

PC gamer is likely to be in this age range
Console gamer is likely to be this age range
PC gamer is likely to be this ethnicity
Console gamer is likely to be this ethnicity
PC gamer is likely to make this amount of income
Console gamer is likely to make this amount of income
PC gamer is likely to do
Console gamer is like to do
PC gamer is like to listen to
Console gamer is likely to listen to
PC gamer is likely to watch
Console gamer is listen to watch

Basically its called your MRI plus data. Nielson data.
Look at data, and the fun begins.
Time to start sterotyping... Aka put people into segments and find the target market!

reiverx · February 2017

People are just gonna say whatever platform they run on.

Lyserus · February 2017

PC is bigger, you can tell from the prices of rare drops.

Also,addons, you are gonna love them

TerraDewBerry · February 2017

If you have the option, go PC/NA without question.

jedtb16_ESO · February 2017

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

One other thing to think about.

Gen X and Baby Boomers... Only very small percentage if any plays on console.
Millenials play mainly on console, a small perecentage plays PC.

Console gaming is considered cool, hype, trendy.
PC gaming is considered nerdy, outdated, laggards.

I mean, VR came out for consoles
PC gamers, its like PDA. Nobody used. Console, its not a PDA its an iPad, everyone uses
I mean, Console games all have voice chat
PC gamers... Ignore everyone and SOLO que, no I dont want to talk to you in voice, reminds me of real life
I mean Console games people actually utilize friends list and play with friends
PC gamers... SOLO QUE KINGS

Chances of playing with a hot chick? Very slim on PC. Nothing but old folks. On consoles very good, its considered cool.
Chances of playing with losers? Very good on PC. On consoles, very bad, console players have big ambitions, big EGOs too.

When is the last time someone humped your corpse in PC AvA?
Happens all the time on console. Console player have high confidence level, high confidence can lead to EGO and dominance, which is reason why they hump corpse.

Another thing,
PC gaming is like TV
Console gaming is like Netflix, Hulu, etc.
PC gaming is like big box stores
Console gaming is like Amazon, e-commerce
PC gaming is like having an andriod phone
Console gaming is like having Apple products

Which one is trending?
Which one has a lot of activity?
Console games.

Data shows, PS4 has roughly same or more population as PC, Xbox One has roughly same or more population too... Guess what, that means Console beats PC 2 to 1.

for the price of one of my graphics cards i could buy three of your measly little consoles, and i have two of them....

never mind the cod sociology..... want to talk about performance?

Gordon906 · February 2017

PC.

Number_51 · February 2017

I swear there was an article I read where Firor did reveal the numbers to a third party (not publicly) and the conclusion was that there was a pretty even distribution across all three platforms. Right around the time One Tamriel was being released.

bulbousb16_ESO · February 2017

I think probably the PS4 players are bigger, because they sit around a lot on their parents' couches eating potato chips.

zaria · February 2017

UrQuan wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Put aside all of the utter BS people throw about to try to make generalizations about the types of people who play on each platform. It's garbage.

Well, I'm a marketer, thats what marketers do.
Brainstorm
Then we put people into sterotypes, which a nicer word is "segments", even nicer word is "target market"

Its true though, goto a basketball court, it will mostly be black guys, they will be mostly wearing ***. Not a generalization, its fact. Just like the other facts I said.

But yes, this is about PS4 vs PC. Well, they same, but don't let that make you think PC has more players because there is a thing called console wars, aka PS4 vs XboxOne.... Notice how PC is not even a consideration.
Next notice, who plays on PS4 and XboxOne... Do you picture 45 year olds? 65 year olds? Aka Gen X and Baby Boomers? Or do you picture 31 year old? 22 year old? 18 year old?
Now look at PC... Enough said.

I'll start using the words segments and target market from now on... Sterotypes lil too much for some people to handle.
When you want to be the best, make the most. You gotta be tough. Cant be weak and avoid facts just for sake of not hurting feelings.

If you're a marketer, I'd hate to see the kind of work you produce. You need data to do analysis. You don't have any data, you're just throwing around your assumptions based on stereotypes without even considering the inherently different market for an MMO vs. the types of games that are typically played on consoles (notice that MMOs are huge on PC, but almost non-existent on consoles).

The fact is that you don't have the data needed to have any clue what the population is on either PS4 or Xbox compared to PC. Neither do I. Neither do any of us. Only ZOS has the data needed to figure that out.

Note that the few MMO on consoles is mostly because of hardware limits on previous generations, MMO tend to be memory hogs. WOW clone interface also require mouse and keyboard.

For ESO this has the benefit of few competitors, is it any other serious MMO for One?
I play pc by the way, never owned an console

PC version has the benefit of addon I could not play an sorcerer effective without ad don who shows timers for abilities.
Yes you have visual clues but this don't have timers and you might easy miss them in an hectic fight.

BloodWolfe · February 2017

mb10 wrote: »

If you want to lay back on a bigger screen, friendlier community, less cheaters/exploiters, less glitches, less lag, no constant updates to your system and so on

PS4 is the one for you

I play PC and play on my big screen while on the couch using my controller so console really has nothing going for it over PC. I have the Steam Link (but hey if your PC is close enough you can just HDMI to the TV directly) and load up Steam (big picture mode) and load up ESO. I play on my big screen TV, use my wireless Xbox 360 controller and sit on the couch. When I feel like being at the PC or use mouse and keyboard I can do that too and I get to use addons! PC has more options and can play both ways.

I had just as many bugs, lag and glitches on my PS4 than on PC (I did the transfer from PC to PS4 when console version launched) so I have played both but kept going back to PC because ZoS and their infinite stupidity have a craptacular UI so I hated playing without a few select addons.

OP, pick which works best for you but PC can do everything console can and more (buy it on Steam makes it easier to play on the TV and couch if that's how you wish to play). As for populations, I see no shortage of players on PC (NA) so I think either choice will be fine in that regard. The PC vs console though, it seems everyone pro-console will make it sound like console has an advantage of bigger screen and comfort of the couch, etc... but PC can just as easily do all that as well so you have more options on PC. If you don't care about addons, go for console but my preference is the UI sucks so I need a few addons and couldn't stand playing on my PS4 when I did. To each their own.

Whichever version you choose, welcome to ESO!

NewBlacksmurf · February 2017

Technically no one can answer this
BUT

Recently MMoRPG has an article from the developers saying sales-wise....new purchases are spread evenly among the three with 8.5 mil total sales.

This article doesn't talk about any definition of active players.
We can safely assume all servers have at their highest peak at least 300-600k players which in One Tamriel is plenty.

sevomd69 · February 2017

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Put aside all of the utter BS people throw about to try to make generalizations about the types of people who play on each platform. It's garbage.

Well, I'm a marketer, thats what marketers do.
Brainstorm
Then we put people into sterotypes, which a nicer word is "segments", even nicer word is "target market"

Its true though, goto a basketball court, it will mostly be black guys, they will be mostly wearing ***. Not a generalization, its fact. Just like the other facts I said.

But yes, this is about PS4 vs PC. Well, they same, but don't let that make you think PC has more players because there is a thing called console wars, aka PS4 vs XboxOne.... Notice how PC is not even a consideration.
Next notice, who plays on PS4 and XboxOne... Do you picture 45 year olds? 65 year olds? Aka Gen X and Baby Boomers? Or do you picture 31 year old? 22 year old? 18 year old?
Now look at PC... Enough said.

I'll start using the words segments and target market from now on... Sterotypes lil too much for some people to handle.
When you want to be the best, make the most. You gotta be tough. Cant be weak and avoid facts just for sake of not hurting feelings.

Huh??? I think this a gross generalization and even bordering on racism... You go to a basketball court in my neighborhood... the players include all races...

jaye63 · February 2017

Rex-Umbra wrote: »

Xbox NA is most populated server.

What's Xbox?

DurzoBlint13 · February 2017

unless a Dev is willing to comment on the subject anything anyone tells you is pure speculation. ZOS has not, and probably will never, reveal the populations on the different platforms

Gordon906 · February 2017

jaye63 wrote: »

Rex-Umbra wrote: »

Xbox NA is most populated server.

What's Xbox?

A computer that comes with pre-built hardware that aren't upgradable and it is limited to one OS and DRM.

MLGProPlayer · February 2017

No idea, but the experience is way better on PC if you have a computer that can max out the game.

Better graphics and add-ons make a world of difference.

Cadbury · February 2017

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

I dont really need exact data, no one has that.
There are things called industry trends.
Aka Industry... Gulp. Sterotypes.

PC gamer is likely to be in this age range
Console gamer is likely to be this age range
PC gamer is likely to be this ethnicity
Console gamer is likely to be this ethnicity
PC gamer is likely to make this amount of income
Console gamer is likely to make this amount of income
PC gamer is likely to do
Console gamer is like to do
PC gamer is like to listen to
Console gamer is likely to listen to
PC gamer is likely to watch
Console gamer is listen to watch

Basically its called your MRI plus data. Nielson data.
Look at data, and the fun begins.
Time to start sterotyping... Aka put people into segments and find the target market!

What percentage of PC and Console gamer listens to Adele or Beyonce?

Blazedont · February 2017

I have the pc version and the ps4 version pc wins.

GreenhaloX · February 2017

mb10 wrote: »

If you want to lay back on a bigger screen, friendlier community, less cheaters/exploiters, less glitches, less lag, no constant updates to your system and so on

PS4 is the one for you

I'm not sure if there is a sarcastic undertone from your comments. Ha ha. Bigger screen, sure, but I believe you can also connect the PC to your 80" HD4KUltra TV via HDMI. Less cheaters/exploiters on consoles.. sure, I can buy that, since on PC, you're able to do more mods and such. However, friendlier community on PS4.. well, I wouldn't buy that for a dollar. Ha ha. Either way, on PC or console.. thank goodness for soloable contents and the ability to turn off text chats..

Ariades_swe · April 2017

According to Matt Firor console got double the amount of players compared to pc.
I play both and an interesting fact on pc is if you turn on console ui the pvp campaign population show up as one bar less populationwise compared to when using normal ui.
Overall the game seems to do great.
If you check steam stats ESO went to almost 10 k online from around 5 k half a year ago.
I play mainly on console due to friends but prefer the game on pc since I find controller harder to play with.

Duiwel · April 2017

Good question OP.

You have to keep in mind many or most PC gamers tend to be MMO players ( be that online FPS games, moba's or MMORPG's ), where as most Console gamers tend to play FPS games like CoD, Sport games and Sandbox like FIFA, GTA.

So this is a VERY interesting question and I am very curious myself

Rowjoh · April 2017

its not about quantity but quality especially as all platforms are well populated. PC/MaC is tremendously well populated and the availability of must-have add-ons is a massive advantage over the consoles

Prof_Bawbag · April 2017

I seem to be one of the few who actually doesn't care what the next person is gaming on. I suspect everyone doesn't give a flying one what I'm gaming on either. I game on the platform I choose to game on, not because it was a platform given to me by birth. Got to wonder if some people get so precious over their god damn toaster or refrigerator.

Some people need to understand that a piece of electrical equipment isn't an extension of their self worth. It's a luxury ffs. Oh noes, platform X has 3 more players than my platform. I'm about to jump, hold me back.

zaria · April 2017

Ariades_swe wrote: »

According to Matt Firor console got double the amount of players compared to pc.
I play both and an interesting fact on pc is if you turn on console ui the pvp campaign population show up as one bar less populationwise compared to when using normal ui.
Overall the game seems to do great.
If you check steam stats ESO went to almost 10 k online from around 5 k half a year ago.
I play mainly on console due to friends but prefer the game on pc since I find controller harder to play with.

Yes, but its two consoles, numbers of players are pretty equal as I understand.
Think PvP is more popular on consoles, that is why its more people in PvP.
Else its more than enough players around.

SnubbS · April 2017

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Each console has around 300k active users.

PS4 >

What is your definition of an 'Active User'? I'd be genuinely shocked if Xbox NA (The megaserver which I've been told is the most populated) had more 10k Unique users per day.

nbksaske · April 2017

I have eso on all 3 platforms (i love this game) and i never have trouble grouping etc seems quite equal to me, depending on time of day of corse