Can we make more things account wide please

Korsario · February 2017

It works really well in GW2, Things like Gold, Tal Var stones, AP, achivements and such should be made account wide for ease of use.

kargen27 · February 2017

I vote no on achievements. Gold already is as you can place it in your bank and take it out with any character you want. With AP I wouldn't mind if any character can spend but don't think other characters should get the advances in rank that comes with gaining AP.

andreasranasen · February 2017

I totally agree about gold and telvar in INVENTORY. Wouldn't hurt anyone to just having it account wide. For AP... hmm. If you had several characters within the same alliance yes.

Lyserus · February 2017

I believe gold and tv stone are shared.

Agree on achievement. I mean afterall, achievement in game means "something i managed to do in game", I don't see why it is toon-wide instead of player-wide.

About AP and other skill ranks that need farming, also skyshards, trait research and mount training, I don't think ZOS will make it account wide, but I definitely love to see it. It's like ZOS didn't get their logic straight.... they want one toon to be able to experience all contents by giving us one tamriel, yet still want players to do all the boring things over again just to experience a different build

kargen27 · February 2017

Lyserus wrote: »

I believe gold and tv stone are shared.

Agree on achievement. I mean afterall, achievement in game means "something i managed to do in game", I don't see why it is toon-wide instead of player-wide.

About AP and other skill ranks that need farming, also skyshards, trait research and mount training, I don't think ZOS will make it account wide, but I definitely love to see it. It's like ZOS didn't get their logic straight.... they want one toon to be able to experience all contents by giving us one tamriel, yet still want players to do all the boring things over again just to experience a different build

Just the opposite for me. I want each character to earn each achievement. I have master fisher on two characters now and might do a third. I see it as something the character earned in the game. I know the argument is that the character couldn't do it without the player at the controls but going for circle with it the player has nothing to control until the character is created.

My characters are not doing all the same things in the game so they shouldn't all have the same achievements. One will never do any of the Dark Brotherhood quests. Not because I don't want to do them again but because I don't see that character doing them. You do get the rewards that go with the achievements such as dyes and that is fine. I don't think you should get the actual title for the achievement though account wide. That needs to stay attached to characters.

Evergnar · February 2017

I lean more towards account wide but I have a lot of characters on two accounts. The only way I can hold an interest in ESO is to play a lot of different characters. When it comes to achievements it's a real drawback not dedicating yourself to one character even though you as a player have achieved it.

Gilvoth · February 2017

Korsario wrote: »

It works really well in GW2, Things like Gold, Tal Var stones, AP, achivements and such should be made account wide for ease of use.

i hope this happens, i have been asking for this for a long time.
everything should be shared, i dont know why it wasnt started in beta and launch.

cabbageub17_ESO · February 2017

Only thing that bugs me is style motifs not being shared. Back at launch many of us split some crafting duties for RP reasons and b/c skill points weren't the drop in the hat they are now. Hell just the pages would be nice.

SFDB · February 2017

cabbageub17_ESO wrote: »

Only thing that bugs me is style motifs not being shared. Back at launch many of us split some crafting duties for RP reasons and b/c skill points weren't the drop in the hat they are now. Hell just the pages would be nice.

This is the big one, especially with crown motifs being out there for the prices they are. For that much real world money they should be account-wide unlocks.

redspecter23 · February 2017

Gold and Tel Var could be account wide, no problem. You can currently bank them so it mostly works this way anyway.

AP I think could be split into 3 different versions, one for each faction and then all toons of any given faction have access to AP for that faction, currency only. AP achievements would be toon based. My DC toons gain DC AP and my AD toons gain AD AP, etc.

Writ vouchers should just be account wide. I have no clue why they aren't.

Motif knowledge could be account wide. I wouldn't mind though some might have issues with it. They could just allow you to transcribe books you already know into bound to character books you could transfer to another character through the bank, perhaps with a cost in time, gold or some other widget. With them being bound to character it doesn't cripple the economy other than not having to buy multiples for master writ purposes.

brandonv516 · February 2017

The community is too split on achievements. Not sure it would ever pass.

SFDB · February 2017

redspecter23 wrote: »

Motif knowledge could be account wide. I wouldn't mind though some might have issues with it. They could just allow you to transcribe books you already know into bound to character books you could transfer to another character through the bank, perhaps with a cost in time, gold or some other widget. With them being bound to character it doesn't cripple the economy other than not having to buy multiples for master writ purposes.

Had a thought: why not add a motif section to collections, when you unlock the motif knowledge achievement for a category the achievement would unlock it in collections as a reward (the same way that they can unlock gear and such). A character can then select it in the collections and learn that motif. And of course, crown motifs would go into the collections directly.

ChuckyPayne · February 2017

brandonv516 wrote: »

The community is too split on achievements. Not sure it would ever pass.

I feel the same.

It bothers me that we have now. I try not to think about it, but it's hard. I was hoping, but what is the last update it killed the hope.
- Character based master writs (character based learned style effected on master writs). This is a very big sign they don't want to change character based solutions.

I like this game very much and I try to focus on good part but this game's too aweful systems.

SydneyGrey · February 2017

And training horses. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make training mounts account-wide so we don't have to do this several-month process anew for every single character. What an obnoxious grind.

acw37162 · February 2017

SydneyGrey wrote: »

And training horses. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make training mounts account-wide so we don't have to do this several-month process anew for every single character. What an obnoxious grind.

Are you kidding they already have spreadsheets on how much money they will
Make with mount upgrades when Wardens drop.

SydneyGrey · February 2017

acw37162 wrote: »

Are you kidding they already have spreadsheets on how much money they will
Make with mount upgrades when Wardens drop.

How would ZOS make money on mount upgrades? You can just get them in the game for 250 gold a day.

I know they sell "riding lessons" in the crown store, but it doesn't seem like something that would exactly make them millions or anything.

Iluvrien · February 2017

cabbageub17_ESO wrote: »

Only thing that bugs me is style motifs not being shared. Back at launch many of us split some crafting duties for RP reasons and b/c skill points weren't the drop in the hat they are now. Hell just the pages would be nice.

Skill points were never an issue. My Day - 5 (PC early release) main with 6 fully maxed crafts would argue with that.

More stuff account wide? No thanks. For me, too much is account-wide already (I would prefer it is CP and dyes weren't either... though I understand why those choices were made).

TheShadowScout · February 2017

Korsario wrote: »

It works really well in GW2, Things like Gold, Tal Var stones, AP, achivements and such should be made account wide for ease of use.

Suuuuuuure.
You -want- to have the guards take all the gold your honest character earned just because your outlaw character got caught???
You -want- that guy who ganked you in IC to take all your TV stones because they were account wide and not banked?
Nope. They are bankable in your account wide bank for a -reason-, and should stay that way.

AP... well, I can see how it would make little sense if you could earn them fighting for EP and spend them on your DC character... if they ever became bankable I would want to see them split per alliance. Not like its a big deal anyhow, as you can still bank the stuff you buy with them, so...

Achievements - definitely not, as I kept saying many, many, many times. If those were account wide, how would I check up on my characters, see who missed what landmark, hasn't found this or that skyshard yet, or still has to learn some crafting style chapter? Not to mention, it would be silly to see some of the titles on a new alt fresh out of coldharbour...
And yes I know that a great many people want the achievements account wide because they feel entitled to the game treating their alts all as the same character. But just as many feel different and want their characters individual achievements to stay individual - not like it matters much, seeing as the dyes are already account-shared.
However...
What -would- be a good thing in that matter was making that last one "official" - make one "account achievement overview" page from the character selection screen, which shows what achievement was done by which alt when - and have the dye unlocks base on that. And then... let the furniture unlocks -also- base on that account overview, so people don't have to switch alts to get this or that special achievement furniture...
Additionally, then they can give out more rewards for multiple achievement completions. Like, "do it with every class" or "do it in every alliance", or stuff like that...

Motiv knowledge and trait research for that matter? Why? Pick one designated equipment crafting alt, learn it all on that alt... but it would make no sense whatsoever if all your alts shared motiv knowledge. And it would be an even worse can of worms with trait research... imagine how that would be if you could not research individually, but had all research "slots" account wide, not to mention how you then could not buy extra research slots with individual skill points...
Too iffy, not gonna happen.
(the only thing in crafting I would want to see become account wide are crown store bought motivs... at those prices, they might as well make it an unlock that allows you to draw a zero-value, bound motiv book as many times as you like for every character on your account...)

Riding? Not gonna happen either. If you really can't bear to spend the time, spend the crowns instead about whining to get it for free. That is obviously what ZOS intends, and they are not going to change their minds about it, since that would hurt their profits. They are a business, and people who hurt their profits tend to get downsized, so noone there will be likely to make that decision.

ESO has a lot of account wide stuff already with the champion system, which is more then any other MMORPG I ever played (though admittedly I did not play all that many, since I only go for those with a background story and established lore that interests me).
I think it greedy and foolish to ask for yet more...

Cpt_Teemo · February 2017

They could also make Motifs account wide cause we already know the majority of the population won't use more than 2 on there account even if its for the master writs, they're coming down in price so much even rich people wouldn't buy extras for there alts now.

Imryll · February 2017

I'd rather fewer things were account wide. For instance, I'd much rather have each character join their own, faction-based guild. And have their own bank slots. For me the game is about the story of each character's adventures. Anything that takes away from that diminishes the point of playing.

Ojustaboo · February 2017

No I don't like this idea

I could gain AP on one character in one campaign and have it count towards AP on another character on another campaign. That wouldn't work.

Gold is already account wide, just shove it in your bank.

I am totally against account wide achievements, each one of my characters is an individual and I want to keep it that way (I would be happy if CP wasn't account wide)

Korsario · February 2017

The whole bank thing would be ok if uoi could spend cash from the bank but as it is, bank is completly and utterly useless better just to have a shared gold pool.

Ryuuhime · February 2017

I would like for achievements to have two sections and you could choose which one to view: character and account. So you could check your overall achievements/achievement points, and that individual character's achievements.

Same with AP Rank, we could have account rank and character rank. Would sure make me happy!

Needless to say, not much in ESO is alt-friendly... They made it better with Champion system but that was the only thing they ever did to help people with alts.

jaye63 · February 2017

Korsario wrote: »

It works really well in GW2, Things like Gold, Tal Var stones, AP, achivements and such should be made account wide for ease of use.

This is NOT GW2. And did you play daggerfall? Morrowind? Oblivion? Skyrim? If you did, were those achievements account wide? No? then no.... just no.

AlnilamE · February 2017

SydneyGrey wrote: »

And training horses. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make training mounts account-wide so we don't have to do this several-month process anew for every single character. What an obnoxious grind.

It's only an obnoxious grind because they changed it to allow you to max all stats.

When the game launched, the stats were per horse and you could only "feed" a horse 50 times. You had to pick and choose what you wanted.

And if you just pick the one stat that's most important to you and work on that first until it's at 50% and then work on the others, you won't stress about it that much.

andreasranasen wrote: »

I totally agree about gold and telvar in INVENTORY. Wouldn't hurt anyone to just having it account wide. For AP... hmm. If you had several characters within the same alliance yes.

...Until you get killed and loose 50% of your Tel Var, that is.

And the bankable part of AP should be treated just as the currency it is. So if you put it in the bank and grab it on a different character, it wouldn't affect your character's alliance rank. The same way that you don't lose ranks when you buy siege or a helm from the Golden Vendor with your AP. The game already knows the difference.

Lyserus wrote: »

I believe gold and tv stone are shared.

Agree on achievement. I mean afterall, achievement in game means "something i managed to do in game", I don't see why it is toon-wide instead of player-wide.

About AP and other skill ranks that need farming, also skyshards, trait research and mount training, I don't think ZOS will make it account wide, but I definitely love to see it. It's like ZOS didn't get their logic straight.... they want one toon to be able to experience all contents by giving us one tamriel, yet still want players to do all the boring things over again just to experience a different build

I'm the opposite. When I get an achievement on my "main" character, I immediately think of who is going to work on that achievement next.

I have the 1000 chest achievement on 3 characters already, and the General Executioner on 2, with my Templar only missing 2 generals to get hers.

So if they made these account-wide, they would have to up it to 10,000 chests at least.

Also, all the discovery achievements and such would make a mess or trying to get a character through a new zone and having no idea what they are still missing because you've already completed it on other characters.

And I disagree on skyshards and lorebooks being account wide because I love finding them again on new characters, and dead skyshards are a sad sight.

Khaos_Bane · February 2017

Oh man, account-wide mounts please !

Katahdin · February 2017

Alliance rank should be character only.

Alliance points should be banked and shared account wide so that playing alts is more desirable. It's a currency system like tel var, who cares what character earns it.

As far as those saying it would be strange spending AP points earned on EP for a DC character? That already happens now.

Buy the item with AP on EP character.
Put item in bank
Relog to DC character
Take item out of bank

Writ vouchers should not be character bound

Katahdin · February 2017

Korsario wrote: »

The whole bank thing would be ok if uoi could spend cash from the bank but as it is, bank is completly and utterly useless better just to have a shared gold pool.

I like the bank and the fact it's not immediately accessible. I don't want to carry all my gold everywhere in a shared pool.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · February 2017

ACCOUNT WIDE MOUNTS WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Follow the money. Maxing out a horse costs more than a furnished manor, and believe me, people do that in the CS all the time.

There are 2 things I want account wide. Both come from the fact that I play a lot of Alts.

First, I wish AP was account wide. I dont PVP nearly as much as I probably would if I could build towards my rank on multiple characters. If you have made 50 million alliance points in Cyro, it shouldn't matter what toon or toons you did it on. In fact, I would argue that the person that did it on 4 toons has a better understanding of PVP than the guy who did it on one. Also, if I come across someone like Frozen or Fengrush on an alt they just started, I wouldnt mind being able to see that they are no slouch from their rank.

Second, I want an account wide achievement tab. Again, I play a lot of alts. Housing is helping with this a bit. Other than some high end PVP stuff, I havent found an achievement trophy I cant get on at least one toon. Problem that bugs me is that my Achievement point total is laughable on any individual toon. I am not suggesting that we do away with character achievements, but I would like on overlaying account wide section so I could view what parts of the game I still have left to complete. In almost any other game I have played, achievements are account based.

Dreyloch · February 2017

Skill points, my god PLEASE skill points!! AP would also be my wish. But hunting down skill shards after leveling a toon or even while leveling a toon drives me insane. I've gotten pretty much any and all skill points on my first toon. Why make me go thru that with every alt after. It's stupid.

KerinKor · February 2017

Lyserus wrote: »

Agree on achievement. I mean afterall, achievement in game means "something i managed to do in game", I don't see why it is toon-wide instead of player-wide.

The argument goes that you may have achieved on one class but that doesn't mean you know how to play a different class equally well.

I see arguments on both sides, but in ESO given that the dye system is largely locked behind achievements then I lean towards the account-wide view.