Sell the Warden Separately

Turelus · February 2017

Valestris wrote: »

I get that they shouldn't pick apart an xpac like that but some of the people here seemingly cannot read at all, he isn't saying give it to me for free he's saying put it up on the crown store so he can pay for just the class as Morrowind has no other pull to him. Am I the only one who can see this or something? o.O

I think most people are talking about TX1200rwb17_ESO saying it should be part of the base game or it's P2W.

NewBlacksmurf · February 2017

Well technically its being sold for the cost of 5500 crowns so either way you're going to spend $39 or more.

Just buy the expansion for $39 now or wait for 6-12 months for a lesser price in some bundle

Loc2262 · February 2017

"The only winning move is not to play."

I hope ZOS' next game is not a chess simulation though.

MalakithAlamahdi · February 2017

The warden class should actually be free to anyone imo.

Saturn · February 2017

No interest in PvE and instance PvP? Does that mean you enjoy the zergfest that is Cyrodiil? I don't think they will sell the class separately though, as it would lower the value of the expansion that people have already paid for.

idk · February 2017

Danikat wrote: »

I don't think this is an unreasonable request. For those complaining about people wanting things for free I suggest you re-read the original post. The OP is not asking for the warden to be free, only to be able to buy it separately from a bunch of stuff they don't want.

ZOS are perfectly capable of splitting the expansion up and selling us each bit separately. They used to sell the Imperial upgrade, the palomino horse and I think some other stuff through the website so the tech is actually there already. And I think it's completely understandable that people would like to be able to buy things they want without things they don't want. If they gave us the choice I'd like a slightly cheaper Collectors Edition with the armoured horse, spider pet and grey bear but without the emotes because I'll probably never use them.

But I'm certain ZOS haven't just forgotten that they can sell small upgrades individually. They will have made a deliberate decision to package it all together as an expansion, for a variety of reasons which may well include requiring players to buy it all to get the part/s they want. So it's highly unlikely they're going to offer the option to get it separately.

If you're willing to wait (and you don't want the pre-order bonuses) the best option is to wait until 6 months or so after the expansion is released and then look on trustworthy 3rd party sites like Amazon. You'll probably be able to find a copy for far less than the current price. And that comes to basically the same thing - you still get the stuff you don't want, but you're not paying for it.

My list early in this thread mentioned it may becoming me available to the masses after a long period but more likely at a reduced price Or bundled.

I expect this expansion is designed to get PvP players that do not PvE (as it seems OP might play) to fork over some cash.

As the game is now PvPers have no incentive to subscribe or purchase DLCs and this expansion offers a double wammy to get PvP exclusive players to pay up.

srfrogg23 · February 2017

Skritha wrote: »

I personally have zero interest in PvE or instanced PvP. So the new xpac doesn't provide much value for me. The Warden class, however, looks good.

At some point, maybe 6 months after the xpac's release it would be nice if just the Warden class was made available for purchase in the crown store. There is a precedent, The Lord of the Rings Online sells their expansion classes (one of whom also happens to be named the Warden) in the cash shop, and it seems to work fine.

I realize there was a whole debate about what is, and what is not, DLC, but I don't think ZOS can capture customers like me unless they do something like this.

Are you sure you understand what you're asking for here?

Your guild, Trials group, PvP group, etc; they're eventually going to start doing the stuff that comes with the Morrowind expansion. They'll leave you behind.

If you were to buy the Warden by itself without the x-pac and then change your mind later about the x-pac, and decide to buy that too, you're still going to pay for the Warden as a part of the price for Morrowind.

That means that you will end up paying for the Warden twice on the same account if you buy it separate and then buy Morrowind.

Rosveen · February 2017

Morrowind already barely deserves to be called an expansion, let's not devalue it further.

ThePaleItalian · February 2017

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

What they should do is make the class a part of the base game patch as this strictly effects combat otherwise it is going to be PAY TO WIN.

I don't think you know what that means....

No way play to win. Legion brought Demon Hunters, you bought the expac to use it... so is WoW now play to win??

I know we hate talking about them, but come on! This PTW stuff gets throw around and misused constantly.

Riding lessons are PTW

I ride faster - get to the location faster - kill boss faster - faster xp - max level faster - PTW confirmed.

idk · February 2017

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

What they should do is make the class a part of the base game patch as this strictly effects combat otherwise it is going to be PAY TO WIN.

I don't think you know what that means....

No way play to win. Legion brought Demon Hunters, you bought the expac to use it... so is WoW now play to win??

I know we hate talking about them, but come on! This PTW stuff gets throw around and misused constantly.

Riding lessons are PTW

I ride faster - get to the location faster - kill boss faster - faster xp - max level faster - PTW confirmed.

Lol

TX12001rwb17_ESO · February 2017

kongkim wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

What they should do is make the class a part of the base game patch as this strictly effects combat otherwise it is going to be PAY TO WIN.

So you WIN if you have the Warden Class?

For all we know the class might be overpowered as hell, kind of like how vampires used to be when the game launched and it took well over a month for ZOS to even do anything about it.

Enodoc · February 2017

I don't think the Warden should be sold separately. That's one of the things that theoretically validates this content being called an expansion chapter rather than a DLC. If anything should be pulled out and sold separately, it's the Vvardenfell zone and story, as that's just a content drop like Orsinium/Wrothgar. Or maybe it should be the battlegrounds, as that's a PvP content drop like Imperial City.

Or maybe they should scrap this "chapter" concept and sell it as a DLC bundle on the Crown Store, with each thing (Vvardenfell, Battlegrounds, Warden) being available as a separate purchase too. Subs would then get Vvardenfell and Battlegrounds as part of their ESO Plus.

Betheny · February 2017

Pull out your credit card you cheapskate.

Khaos_Bane · February 2017

Skritha wrote: »

I personally have zero interest in PvE or instanced PvP. So the new xpac doesn't provide much value for me. The Warden class, however, looks good.

At some point, maybe 6 months after the xpac's release it would be nice if just the Warden class was made available for purchase in the crown store. There is a precedent, The Lord of the Rings Online sells their expansion classes (one of whom also happens to be named the Warden) in the cash shop, and it seems to work fine.

I realize there was a whole debate about what is, and what is not, DLC, but I don't think ZOS can capture customers like me unless they do something like this.

Probably not many customers like you anyway,