How do I find out my DPS and how do I increase it?

ESOUser0x00 · February 2017

Magicka sorcerer with all attributes in magicka. Using ilambris and BSW, 1 heavy the rest light.
Lightning staff with 3 to 4k dmg range(1k from staff, 2 or 2.8k from blue or purple flame glyph I can't remember).
Mainly using force shock, elemental blockade, power surge, hardened ward, bound aegis.

AzraelKrieg · February 2017

Are you on console or PC?

ESOUser0x00 · February 2017

PC

LordGavus · February 2017

ESOUser0x00 wrote: »

PC

Cool, on PC it's pretty easy.
Get an add-on like combat metrics. It will give you a dps read out of each fight.

You want to try on a boss with no adds. If you can get the housing target skeleton then you're all set.

Malmai · February 2017

Learn animation canceling and abuse it or u will have no dps.

Xerton · February 2017

Malmai wrote: »

Learn animation canceling and abuse it or u will have no dps.

Head -> Wall....

When will you guys stop your crusade against AC? It is not cheating, it is not exploiting, there is no abusing, it is a mechanic of this game and ZOS wants us to use it.

@ESOUser0x00 you can get good DPS without animation canceling. But mastering it will make the difference between a good dd and an average one.

DragonBound · February 2017

ESOUser0x00 wrote: »

Magicka sorcerer with all attributes in magicka. Using ilambris and BSW, 1 heavy the rest light.
Lightning staff with 3 to 4k dmg range(1k from staff, 2 or 2.8k from blue or purple flame glyph I can't remember).
Mainly using force shock, elemental blockade, power surge, hardened ward, bound aegis.

Lightning will staff increase aoe dps while fire increases single target, I would rock both if you can, get some dungeon sets for now if you have not yet, pets are a big source of your dps right now, use them, you can use the chanfear to heal to or you can morph it to the stunning one which is better for pure dps along with your ranged pet.

I do not know your level but make sure your getting all your class passives. Also make sure your using light armor mostly with all the passives. Other then that you can use surge to increase your weapon dps or magelight to increase your spell crit.

adriant1978 · February 2017

Xerton wrote: »

When will you guys stop your crusade against AC? It is not cheating, it is not exploiting, there is no abusing, it is a mechanic of this game and ZOS wants us to use it.

If this was true then it would be described in the game's help system and tutorial. Just because ZOS can't/won't remove it, doesn't make it an official part of the game.

Xerton · February 2017

@adriant1978 i can't even remember how often i and others had to post this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThZtwhYkKSs

Nifty2g · February 2017

adriant1978 wrote: »

Xerton wrote: »

When will you guys stop your crusade against AC? It is not cheating, it is not exploiting, there is no abusing, it is a mechanic of this game and ZOS wants us to use it.

If this was true then it would be described in the game's help system and tutorial. Just because ZOS can't/won't remove it, doesn't make it an official part of the game.

Funny, I asked Rich this question, he says he likes and it's staying. There has also been several comments about it from developers. They are not planing on removing it and that they have stated it's part of the game.

Stop crying.

stevepdodson_ESO888 · February 2017

adriant1978 wrote: »

Xerton wrote: »

When will you guys stop your crusade against AC? It is not cheating, it is not exploiting, there is no abusing, it is a mechanic of this game and ZOS wants us to use it.

If this was true then it would be described in the game's help system and tutorial. Just because ZOS can't/won't remove it, doesn't make it an official part of the game.

the "official" line is that it is now part of the game...the reason behind this, though, is because they can't fix/solve the problem

before it became "official" it was indeed an exploit

DragonBound · February 2017

adriant1978 wrote: »

Xerton wrote: »

When will you guys stop your crusade against AC? It is not cheating, it is not exploiting, there is no abusing, it is a mechanic of this game and ZOS wants us to use it.

If this was true then it would be described in the game's help system and tutorial. Just because ZOS can't/won't remove it, doesn't make it an official part of the game.

I did not like the concept of it at first as well but I realized something, it makes rotations more challenging and interesting to begin with, I personally see nothing wrong with it, you can become quite skill with it.

reesenorman · February 2017

adriant1978 wrote: »

Xerton wrote: »

When will you guys stop your crusade against AC? It is not cheating, it is not exploiting, there is no abusing, it is a mechanic of this game and ZOS wants us to use it.

If this was true then it would be described in the game's help system and tutorial. Just because ZOS can't/won't remove it, doesn't make it an official part of the game.

Rip, creating rotations and using weapon glyphs must be cheating as well then because it's not in any of ESOs tutorials on how to use either.

VelimOrthic · February 2017

Quick question about AC that might lessen my negativity about it. Which DK skill gives the most AC bang for your buck? Meaning which one has the highest ratio of saved time to damage? Because all of the skills I've used seem only to save a tiny percentage of time off the full animation length. I know AC works wonders for other classes that have mastered it, because I've been on the receiving end of the results (ow).

I'm just suspicious that the differences in the AC->DPS potential of certain classes make the classes inherently unbalanced to an unacceptable degree.

Lord-Otto · February 2017

Xerton wrote: »

@adriant1978 i can't even remember how often i and others had to post this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThZtwhYkKSs

Just want to point out that AC IS an exploit and not working as originally intended. ZOS simply decided they LIKED it, which is very arbitrary. It makes you question the Infernal Guardian fix, the magicka cost formula fix, and so on. Basically, it absolutely invalidates anything ZOS say about bug fixing and working intentions.
I have no problem with AC and like weaving. Queing skills is a bit shady, though. But ZOS shouldn't dare coming to me and talking about exploits.

On topic, learn your rotation by heart. When you internalized it, you have an easier time watching your active buffs. And when you've got all of that down by heart, you'll be able to master boss mechanics and movement more. That'll lead to less wasted ground DoTs and less defense required, leading to higher dps.

zaria · February 2017

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

adriant1978 wrote: »

Xerton wrote: »

When will you guys stop your crusade against AC? It is not cheating, it is not exploiting, there is no abusing, it is a mechanic of this game and ZOS wants us to use it.

If this was true then it would be described in the game's help system and tutorial. Just because ZOS can't/won't remove it, doesn't make it an official part of the game.

the "official" line is that it is now part of the game...the reason behind this, though, is because they can't fix/solve the problem

before it became "official" it was indeed an exploit

Fixing it is simple, you can animation cancel an light attack with an ability, you can animation cancel an ability with block, weapon swap or similar. you can not cancel an ability with another, having light attack fire at end of animation rather than start would solve most of it.

raidentenshu_ESO · February 2017

Xerton wrote: »

@adriant1978 i can't even remember how often i and others had to post this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThZtwhYkKSs

This video makes me sad because Animation canceling is not a mechanic but an exploit within the game that ZOS refuses to fix.

I'm a veteran gamer and I never even heard the term "Animation canceling" up until now. I primary play games that actually requires you to have a brain and actual skill, and not exploiting for an advancement of power. In fact in previous games that I use to play (Primary PvP)... if you're caught doing something like this you'll get banned from the server for life.

Xerton · February 2017

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

Xerton wrote: »

@adriant1978 i can't even remember how often i and others had to post this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThZtwhYkKSs

This video makes me sad because Animation canceling is not a mechanic but an exploit within the game that ZOS refuses to fix.

I'm a veteran gamer and I never even heard the term "Animation canceling" up until now. I primary play games that actually requires you to have a brain and actual skill, and not exploiting for an advancement of power. In fact in previous games that I use to play (Primary PvP)... if you're caught doing something like this you'll get banned from the server for life.

Fun fact: You need a brain and skill to do animation canceling.
Another fun fact: google animation canceling. You will be surprised to find out which other games have it

VelimOrthic · February 2017

Xerton wrote: »

Fun fact: You need a brain and skill to do animation canceling.
Another fun fact: google animation canceling. You will be surprised to find out which other games have it

All true except the part about needing a brain. Google's got that covered for you.

raviour · February 2017

Xerton wrote: »

Malmai wrote: »

Learn animation canceling and abuse it or u will have no dps.

Head -> Wall....

When will you guys stop your crusade against AC? It is not cheating, it is not exploiting, there is no abusing, it is a mechanic of this game and ZOS wants us to use it.

@ESOUser0x00 you can get good DPS without animation canceling. But mastering it will make the difference between a good dd and an average one.

ac is darn right stupid

G0ku · February 2017

You can do 30k dps easily on a templar without animation cancelling, enough for all content in the game.

This is my first mmo and never heard of animation cancelling. As I started to join guilds to do trials and stuff I got to know that I already started animation cancelling by playing the game. It comes naturally (barswap and basic stuff) if you play the game and actually try to kill things faster.

Crying out to get it removed just seems like a way to cover your deficits because you don´t want to / can´t do it. In pvp it can be annyoing sometimes, admit that.

But in every possible way besides pvp it doesn´t interfere with your own gaming experience as you can do anything in the game without it, so your cries just appear butthurt...

raviour · February 2017

i agree but it makes no sense, especially in pvp. i t was originally intended to break you out of a channeled attack but zo$ didnt code it right imo, seems like an exploit to be fair.

raviour · February 2017

on the point tho, get gold weapons, practice rotation on a test skeleton, try stuff and see what suits you then you are good to go. at the moment its burning spell weave/ mothers sorrow for mag and two fanged snake for stam in pve dps with obvious sets like IA, moondancer and VO, monster sets still performing ok with no crit.

Darius771 · February 2017

Animation cancel allowed = a pretext to dont need put a true damage mechanism.

You can write a big text, but the truth can be said in one line.

Malmai · February 2017

Xerton wrote: »

Malmai wrote: »

Learn animation canceling and abuse it or u will have no dps.

Head -> Wall....

When will you guys stop your crusade against AC? It is not cheating, it is not exploiting, there is no abusing, it is a mechanic of this game and ZOS wants us to use it.

@ESOUser0x00 you can get good DPS without animation canceling. But mastering it will make the difference between a good dd and an average one.

I know how to AC and it should not exist its lazy coding issue which should be fixed but its ok bcs we know how ZOS rolls...

G0ku · February 2017

the term exploit doesn´t fit as they told us it is not regarded as exploit. the devs set the rules.

many things get/got removed just because some ppl don´t like it, for me that´s sad. for example my first time in pvp when I saw a DK leaping into a keep I thought "how cool´s that!". Could have been the signature move, same with chaining careless people off the walls. for me that put a whole new level into pvp, for others it was just an exploit. now you won´t leap anywhere and your chains only work on absolutely plain fields, for me that´s a loss of depth in gameplay. (mind you I never played DK very much, maining templar).

As i can see removing some of these things in the game as beneficial, I just can´t see how removing animation cancelling would be beneficial in any way. I imagine gameplay without it clunky and like slowmotion, boring without action. It´s a matter of taste and not of exploit imo....

HouLiGaN · February 2017

ESOUser0x00 wrote: »

PC

If you are In EU, then add me as a friend @Houligan, Once you add me as a friend you can practice on my target skeleton in my house, you will there see your DPS, it will tell u it when ur finished in the chat box!
You can also add addons, but this way u dont have to add anything.
TO increase your dps, many factors play a role, Gear, Cp, Skills, rotation, Undaunted!
Many youtube videos out there that can explain, you just have to know your build. IE mag sorc etc, stam nb etc etc

Xerton · February 2017

All those in favor of AC being removed are not aware of the consequences:
You had no chance at all to react to someone attacking you, no chance to react to mechanics in dungeons and trials.
Your weapon swaps could take ages as you would have to wait for your current skill to end.

The game was designed to have a fast paced combat and therfore NEEDS AC.

I know you don't get it in your head, but the very moment you guys block in a dungeon because the boss is about to hit you, chances are you just canceled an animation. Hey welcome to the club, you are an exploiter now... /irony

raviour · February 2017

bring back leaping onto walls * - most fun thing in the game got nerfed from cry babies. you had to be good at 'yolo' to do it too, wasn't an exploit and made sense, only problem was people leaping into inner keeps and taking it while others who couldn't leap were busy sieging still.

CoachPower · February 2017

ESOUser0x00 wrote: »

Magicka sorcerer with all attributes in magicka. Using ilambris and BSW, 1 heavy the rest light.
Lightning staff with 3 to 4k dmg range(1k from staff, 2 or 2.8k from blue or purple flame glyph I can't remember).
Mainly using force shock, elemental blockade, power surge, hardened ward, bound aegis.

Well, seems like people are going off topic here, so I will get right to it. Firstly, you have to specify what you plan on doing? vMA? End game vet trials? Pledges? etc. If you plan on doing vet trials, then your gear is all set although I highly recommend you get 1 heavy and 1 medium Ilambris, that with BSW and Infallible Aether or Moondancer jewelry and you're good to go.

As for rotation, most fights have lots of mobs so you want to front bar a lightning staff and back bar an inferno (IA/Moondancer front and vMA inferno backbar if you have it and it HAS to be sharpened). I main a magicka sorcerer and my bars currently look like this. Front bar: Inner light, bound aegis, crystal frag, force pulse, curse and shooting star. Back bar: inner light(or a shield), bound aegis, mages wrath, blockade of fire, liquid lightning and destro ult.

There are better option yes, but try different combinations and see what works best for you.

Good luck.

reesenorman · February 2017

Xerton wrote: »

All those in favor of AC being removed are not aware of the consequences:
You had no chance at all to react to someone attacking you, no chance to react to mechanics in dungeons and trials.
Your weapon swaps could take ages as you would have to wait for your current skill to end.

The game was designed to have a fast paced combat and therfore NEEDS AC.

I know you don't get it in your head, but the very moment you guys block in a dungeon because the boss is about to hit you, chances are you just canceled an animation. Hey welcome to the club, you are an exploiter now... /irony

Lets be real, anyone who thinks animation cancelling is cheating is probably trash at the game anyway and doesn't know how to block.