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Tank, Gank, and Spank. [Video Reupload]
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Magus✭✭✭✭✭Well you know what they say about apples.Duraeon / Maoh
Former Emperor of Haderus, Trueflame, and Azura's Star
PC/NA0 -
NoRefunds✭✭✭IxSTALKERxI wrote: »
Pretty sure he was exploiting twice born and hist bark bugs because he is using for sure another set to heal and gain wep dmg...anyway i think that for this build bloodspawn is better than malubeth because most of the times he only goes on the offensive when he has ult up1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭IxSTALKERxI wrote: »
Pretty sure he was exploiting twice born and hist bark bugs because he is using for sure another set to heal and gain wep dmg...anyway i think that for this build bloodspawn is better than malubeth because most of the times he only goes on the offensive when he has ult up
L2Farm hist jewellery bro.0 -
Xinthisis✭✭✭✭Does this build use the vigor bug/exploit?
Agree with you though, where this game was and how it has changed, generally is not for the better and they continue to dumb down the combat system.
I miss soft caps.
People keep mentioning bugs to me that I have no idea even exist.
Crazy how broken ESO is.
I ask because you play with players who know what the exploits/bugs are lol, otherwise I wouldn't second guess it.
I was watching one of your friends stream, and he was in a TS. The conversation went something like this.
Streamer starts streamer mid conversation in TS:
"Yeah, I'll just unslot vigor" in response to the other person complaining about it as they were doing some dueling within cyrodiil.
And then this.
1: "How are you so tanky? Oh right vigor exploit."
2: "Hey shh, X is streaming."
3: TS goes silent.
One of my friends? which one? I'm pretty cool with almost all the pvp streamers. lol
Was a Lemur stream with Zeuq as the vigor user in question.
Lemur doesn't stream(Hasn't started at least).
Try again.0 -
Xinthisis✭✭✭✭IxSTALKERxI wrote: »
Pretty sure he was exploiting twice born and hist bark bugs because he is using for sure another set to heal and gain wep dmg...anyway i think that for this build bloodspawn is better than malubeth because most of the times he only goes on the offensive when he has ult up
Then you don't understand why this build was strong.
30% increased healing on top of EVERYTHING else that increases healing. Now you just need to utilize things like, heavy attack into critrush on enemies not holding block. Dont forget to armor debuff them first. Reverb to reduce their healing. Leap for burst (since I never got Dawnbreaker). You dont need 4k weapon damage and 40k stam to kill people if you understand damage increases by percentages. Also, animation cancelling and understanding how and when people will be offensive or defensive. Also, tank and spank is about tanking and then spanking. You stay defensive, use s/b ult while swapping which removes the s/b ult animation (something that has been reported) which makes your enemies think for even 2 seconds that you dont have block up. They stop looking at their health bar and think that they're good because of everyone around them(That comfort is something all "large group" players know and love). Templars start beaming you versus healing and that fool next to you gets put in the ground. You rinse and repeat. Kite to where numbers are manageable. If you lose fights, you go back to the drawing board and test some more. That is what made ESO fun for me from the very beginning. The constant climb through theory crafting.
However, you could just run the meta builds and say anyone doing something you don't understand is cheating.
BTW, show me where I dodged in the video. Because I changed the build since the last video because of all the histbug hackusations.3 -
timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Nice video.
The Phoenix troll king guy was pretty funny. He basically decided that he was completely done with being ganked ever.
On the business practices stuff, it depends on what they release. IMO, the DLC thing they were doing was pretty much just fluff. I personally didn't completely finish thieves guild or assassin's guild. With services and products, you typically get what you pay for. I am willing to pay for the expansion if it has a lot of substantial things added.Edited by timidobserver on February 11, 2017 1:30AMV16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)1 -
Xinthisis✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »Nice video.
The Phoenix troll king guy was pretty funny. He basically decided that he was completely done with being ganked ever.
On the business practices stuff, it depends on what they release. IMO, the DLC thing they were doing was pretty much just fluff. I am willing to pay for the expansion if it has a lot of substantial things added.
I was laughing so hard as it was happening. "WOW, PHEONIX, okay, DESTRO ULT?!?.. Well, let me.. STUPID HOLE!!".. lol that last jump I just put my contoller down for a second. laughed, then yeah. It was great. I give that guy props.1 -
Xinthisis✭✭✭✭did i heard u right? 5 seconds per 1 ability? wtf? o.O
Well, it will be only 1 ability. But you get 5 seconds instead of 3 for the 80% reduced cost. It used to be 3 seconds of 80% reduced costs but this was broken because high level players could animation cancel 2-3 abilities in that time. It was a big factor in why stam was so powerful in pvp, because every 6 seconds you'll get 1-3 abilities casted for free essentially. The change is good imo, being only 1 ability with a 5 second duration especially with lag as a factor.2 -
Xinthisis✭✭✭✭Just to tell you all how far we're willing to test things, we actually tried to build around varens legacy. Didn't work of course, but they're fixing one of the bugs with it so it might be worth looking into again. So yeah, stop with all the hackusations based on a comment from a person that was obviously mad from a day of being tanked and go test things folks.1
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Magus✭✭✭✭✭Does this build use the vigor bug/exploit?
Agree with you though, where this game was and how it has changed, generally is not for the better and they continue to dumb down the combat system.
I miss soft caps.
People keep mentioning bugs to me that I have no idea even exist.
Crazy how broken ESO is.
I ask because you play with players who know what the exploits/bugs are lol, otherwise I wouldn't second guess it.
I was watching one of your friends stream, and he was in a TS. The conversation went something like this.
Streamer starts streamer mid conversation in TS:
"Yeah, I'll just unslot vigor" in response to the other person complaining about it as they were doing some dueling within cyrodiil.
And then this.
1: "How are you so tanky? Oh right vigor exploit."
2: "Hey shh, X is streaming."
3: TS goes silent.
One of my friends? which one? I'm pretty cool with almost all the pvp streamers. lol
Was a Lemur stream with Zeuq as the vigor user in question.
Lemur doesn't stream(Hasn't started at least).
Try again.
Except that he did. Faso hosted him. Was in a group with Jordaen, Nihilos, Zeuq, and a couple others.Duraeon / Maoh
Former Emperor of Haderus, Trueflame, and Azura's Star
PC/NA4 -
Xinthisis✭✭✭✭Does this build use the vigor bug/exploit?
Agree with you though, where this game was and how it has changed, generally is not for the better and they continue to dumb down the combat system.
I miss soft caps.
People keep mentioning bugs to me that I have no idea even exist.
Crazy how broken ESO is.
I ask because you play with players who know what the exploits/bugs are lol, otherwise I wouldn't second guess it.
I was watching one of your friends stream, and he was in a TS. The conversation went something like this.
Streamer starts streamer mid conversation in TS:
"Yeah, I'll just unslot vigor" in response to the other person complaining about it as they were doing some dueling within cyrodiil.
And then this.
1: "How are you so tanky? Oh right vigor exploit."
2: "Hey shh, X is streaming."
3: TS goes silent.
One of my friends? which one? I'm pretty cool with almost all the pvp streamers. lol
Was a Lemur stream with Zeuq as the vigor user in question.
Lemur doesn't stream(Hasn't started at least).
Try again.
Except that he did. Faso hosted him. Was in a group with Jordaen, Nihilos, Zeuq, and a couple others.
Oh wow, my bad. I haven't talked to Lemur for almost a week, glad he finally started streaming. If there is a vigor bug, it must be Homestead Patch release. Kinda surprised he was in a group with those guys, guess you get what you can.0 -
Magus✭✭✭✭✭Bug was prior to Homestead patch. Don't know exactly what it is or if it still exists. Those guys will probably say they were joking if you ask them about it but it was A-list acting if that was the case. They were already doing TBS exploit so wouldn't it past them to have another exploit that isn't well known yet.Duraeon / Maoh
Former Emperor of Haderus, Trueflame, and Azura's Star
PC/NA1 -
Darnathian✭✭✭✭✭
✭Does this build use the vigor bug/exploit?
Agree with you though, where this game was and how it has changed, generally is not for the better and they continue to dumb down the combat system.
I miss soft caps.
People keep mentioning bugs to me that I have no idea even exist.
Crazy how broken ESO is.
I ask because you play with players who know what the exploits/bugs are lol, otherwise I wouldn't second guess it.
I was watching one of your friends stream, and he was in a TS. The conversation went something like this.
Streamer starts streamer mid conversation in TS:
"Yeah, I'll just unslot vigor" in response to the other person complaining about it as they were doing some dueling within cyrodiil.
And then this.
1: "How are you so tanky? Oh right vigor exploit."
2: "Hey shh, X is streaming."
3: TS goes silent.
One of my friends? which one? I'm pretty cool with almost all the pvp streamers. lol
Was a Lemur stream with Zeuq as the vigor user in question.
Lemur doesn't stream(Hasn't started at least).
Try again.
Except that he did. Faso hosted him. Was in a group with Jordaen, Nihilos, Zeuq, and a couple others.
Shocker! Same names and another potential bug? No way! Let the postering begin1 -
NoRefunds✭✭✭IxSTALKERxI wrote: »
Pretty sure he was exploiting twice born and hist bark bugs because he is using for sure another set to heal and gain wep dmg...anyway i think that for this build bloodspawn is better than malubeth because most of the times he only goes on the offensive when he has ult up
Then you don't understand why this build was strong.
30% increased healing on top of EVERYTHING else that increases healing. Now you just need to utilize things like, heavy attack into critrush on enemies not holding block. Dont forget to armor debuff them first. Reverb to reduce their healing. Leap for burst (since I never got Dawnbreaker). You dont need 4k weapon damage and 40k stam to kill people if you understand damage increases by percentages. Also, animation cancelling and understanding how and when people will be offensive or defensive. Also, tank and spank is about tanking and then spanking. You stay defensive, use s/b ult while swapping which removes the s/b ult animation (something that has been reported) which makes your enemies think for even 2 seconds that you dont have block up. They stop looking at their health bar and think that they're good because of everyone around them(That comfort is something all "large group" players know and love). Templars start beaming you versus healing and that fool next to you gets put in the ground. You rinse and repeat. Kite to where numbers are manageable. If you lose fights, you go back to the drawing board and test some more. That is what made ESO fun for me from the very beginning. The constant climb through theory crafting.
However, you could just run the meta builds and say anyone doing something you don't understand is cheating.
BTW, show me where I dodged in the video. Because I changed the build since the last video because of all the histbug hackusations.
In the videos malubeth proc never made a big difference, your healing and dmg reduction was already over the top, what you needed most of the time was ult and resources, which are the same thing for dk, so bloodspawn is as good as malub if not better... I would also like to run tavas favor to spam ults like crazy but it hard to fit in, especially now that dodge is a bit nerfed...1 -
NoRefunds✭✭✭I also think that you should use petrify instead of rev bash, bash is a bit better to kill people but petrify is way better for tanking forever and be really annoying... The real issue is that with new curse+new backlash its going to be a lot harder to tank nowEdited by NoRefunds on February 11, 2017 12:48PM0
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Xinthisis✭✭✭✭Darnathian wrote: »Does this build use the vigor bug/exploit?
Agree with you though, where this game was and how it has changed, generally is not for the better and they continue to dumb down the combat system.
I miss soft caps.
People keep mentioning bugs to me that I have no idea even exist.
Crazy how broken ESO is.
I ask because you play with players who know what the exploits/bugs are lol, otherwise I wouldn't second guess it.
I was watching one of your friends stream, and he was in a TS. The conversation went something like this.
Streamer starts streamer mid conversation in TS:
"Yeah, I'll just unslot vigor" in response to the other person complaining about it as they were doing some dueling within cyrodiil.
And then this.
1: "How are you so tanky? Oh right vigor exploit."
2: "Hey shh, X is streaming."
3: TS goes silent.
One of my friends? which one? I'm pretty cool with almost all the pvp streamers. lol
Was a Lemur stream with Zeuq as the vigor user in question.
Lemur doesn't stream(Hasn't started at least).
Try again.
Except that he did. Faso hosted him. Was in a group with Jordaen, Nihilos, Zeuq, and a couple others.
Shocker! Same names and another potential bug? No way! Let the postering begin
Or it could be that we're all in the same Teamspeak generally.
Wasn't it you among others that believed faso was using overload bug without overload on his bar? lol
Go and do some testing, the builds don't revolve around bugs because bugs get fixed.1 -
Xinthisis✭✭✭✭IxSTALKERxI wrote: »
Pretty sure he was exploiting twice born and hist bark bugs because he is using for sure another set to heal and gain wep dmg...anyway i think that for this build bloodspawn is better than malubeth because most of the times he only goes on the offensive when he has ult up
Then you don't understand why this build was strong.
30% increased healing on top of EVERYTHING else that increases healing. Now you just need to utilize things like, heavy attack into critrush on enemies not holding block. Dont forget to armor debuff them first. Reverb to reduce their healing. Leap for burst (since I never got Dawnbreaker). You dont need 4k weapon damage and 40k stam to kill people if you understand damage increases by percentages. Also, animation cancelling and understanding how and when people will be offensive or defensive. Also, tank and spank is about tanking and then spanking. You stay defensive, use s/b ult while swapping which removes the s/b ult animation (something that has been reported) which makes your enemies think for even 2 seconds that you dont have block up. They stop looking at their health bar and think that they're good because of everyone around them(That comfort is something all "large group" players know and love). Templars start beaming you versus healing and that fool next to you gets put in the ground. You rinse and repeat. Kite to where numbers are manageable. If you lose fights, you go back to the drawing board and test some more. That is what made ESO fun for me from the very beginning. The constant climb through theory crafting.
However, you could just run the meta builds and say anyone doing something you don't understand is cheating.
BTW, show me where I dodged in the video. Because I changed the build since the last video because of all the histbug hackusations.
In the videos malubeth proc never made a big difference, your healing and dmg reduction was already over the top, what you needed most of the time was ult and resources, which are the same thing for dk, so bloodspawn is as good as malub if not better... I would also like to run tavas favor to spam ults like crazy but it hard to fit in, especially now that dodge is a bit nerfed...
Then go do it, try it out. A big part of theory crafting is to test things out on the live server.1 -
rfennell_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭IxSTALKERxI wrote: »
Pretty sure he was exploiting twice born and hist bark bugs because he is using for sure another set to heal and gain wep dmg...anyway i think that for this build bloodspawn is better than malubeth because most of the times he only goes on the offensive when he has ult up
Then you don't understand why this build was strong.
30% increased healing on top of EVERYTHING else that increases healing. Now you just need to utilize things like, heavy attack into critrush on enemies not holding block. Dont forget to armor debuff them first. Reverb to reduce their healing. Leap for burst (since I never got Dawnbreaker). You dont need 4k weapon damage and 40k stam to kill people if you understand damage increases by percentages. Also, animation cancelling and understanding how and when people will be offensive or defensive. Also, tank and spank is about tanking and then spanking. You stay defensive, use s/b ult while swapping which removes the s/b ult animation (something that has been reported) which makes your enemies think for even 2 seconds that you dont have block up. They stop looking at their health bar and think that they're good because of everyone around them(That comfort is something all "large group" players know and love). Templars start beaming you versus healing and that fool next to you gets put in the ground. You rinse and repeat. Kite to where numbers are manageable. If you lose fights, you go back to the drawing board and test some more. That is what made ESO fun for me from the very beginning. The constant climb through theory crafting.
However, you could just run the meta builds and say anyone doing something you don't understand is cheating.
BTW, show me where I dodged in the video. Because I changed the build since the last video because of all the histbug hackusations.
In the videos malubeth proc never made a big difference, your healing and dmg reduction was already over the top, what you needed most of the time was ult and resources, which are the same thing for dk, so bloodspawn is as good as malub if not better... I would also like to run tavas favor to spam ults like crazy but it hard to fit in, especially now that dodge is a bit nerfed...
Then go do it, try it out. A big part of theory crafting is to test things out on the live server.
Yeah like seeing if holding block and switching gear still permanently applied histbark right?
I'm willing to give credit for the same group of players finding all the bugs and using them, that's dedication.Darnathian wrote: »Does this build use the vigor bug/exploit?
Agree with you though, where this game was and how it has changed, generally is not for the better and they continue to dumb down the combat system.
I miss soft caps.
People keep mentioning bugs to me that I have no idea even exist.
Crazy how broken ESO is.
I ask because you play with players who know what the exploits/bugs are lol, otherwise I wouldn't second guess it.
I was watching one of your friends stream, and he was in a TS. The conversation went something like this.
Streamer starts streamer mid conversation in TS:
"Yeah, I'll just unslot vigor" in response to the other person complaining about it as they were doing some dueling within cyrodiil.
And then this.
1: "How are you so tanky? Oh right vigor exploit."
2: "Hey shh, X is streaming."
3: TS goes silent.
One of my friends? which one? I'm pretty cool with almost all the pvp streamers. lol
Was a Lemur stream with Zeuq as the vigor user in question.
Lemur doesn't stream(Hasn't started at least).
Try again.
Except that he did. Faso hosted him. Was in a group with Jordaen, Nihilos, Zeuq, and a couple others.
Shocker! Same names and another potential bug? No way! Let the postering begin
What's funny is if you watch one of their videos you can see who they are friends with, and that's very VERY telling.4 -
Xinthisis✭✭✭✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »IxSTALKERxI wrote: »
Pretty sure he was exploiting twice born and hist bark bugs because he is using for sure another set to heal and gain wep dmg...anyway i think that for this build bloodspawn is better than malubeth because most of the times he only goes on the offensive when he has ult up
Then you don't understand why this build was strong.
30% increased healing on top of EVERYTHING else that increases healing. Now you just need to utilize things like, heavy attack into critrush on enemies not holding block. Dont forget to armor debuff them first. Reverb to reduce their healing. Leap for burst (since I never got Dawnbreaker). You dont need 4k weapon damage and 40k stam to kill people if you understand damage increases by percentages. Also, animation cancelling and understanding how and when people will be offensive or defensive. Also, tank and spank is about tanking and then spanking. You stay defensive, use s/b ult while swapping which removes the s/b ult animation (something that has been reported) which makes your enemies think for even 2 seconds that you dont have block up. They stop looking at their health bar and think that they're good because of everyone around them(That comfort is something all "large group" players know and love). Templars start beaming you versus healing and that fool next to you gets put in the ground. You rinse and repeat. Kite to where numbers are manageable. If you lose fights, you go back to the drawing board and test some more. That is what made ESO fun for me from the very beginning. The constant climb through theory crafting.
However, you could just run the meta builds and say anyone doing something you don't understand is cheating.
BTW, show me where I dodged in the video. Because I changed the build since the last video because of all the histbug hackusations.
In the videos malubeth proc never made a big difference, your healing and dmg reduction was already over the top, what you needed most of the time was ult and resources, which are the same thing for dk, so bloodspawn is as good as malub if not better... I would also like to run tavas favor to spam ults like crazy but it hard to fit in, especially now that dodge is a bit nerfed...
Then go do it, try it out. A big part of theory crafting is to test things out on the live server.
Yeah like seeing if holding block and switching gear still permanently applied histbark right?
I'm willing to give credit for the same group of players finding all the bugs and using them, that's dedication.Darnathian wrote: »Does this build use the vigor bug/exploit?
Agree with you though, where this game was and how it has changed, generally is not for the better and they continue to dumb down the combat system.
I miss soft caps.
People keep mentioning bugs to me that I have no idea even exist.
Crazy how broken ESO is.
I ask because you play with players who know what the exploits/bugs are lol, otherwise I wouldn't second guess it.
I was watching one of your friends stream, and he was in a TS. The conversation went something like this.
Streamer starts streamer mid conversation in TS:
"Yeah, I'll just unslot vigor" in response to the other person complaining about it as they were doing some dueling within cyrodiil.
And then this.
1: "How are you so tanky? Oh right vigor exploit."
2: "Hey shh, X is streaming."
3: TS goes silent.
One of my friends? which one? I'm pretty cool with almost all the pvp streamers. lol
Was a Lemur stream with Zeuq as the vigor user in question.
Lemur doesn't stream(Hasn't started at least).
Try again.
Except that he did. Faso hosted him. Was in a group with Jordaen, Nihilos, Zeuq, and a couple others.
Shocker! Same names and another potential bug? No way! Let the postering begin
What's funny is if you watch one of their videos you can see who they are friends with, and that's very VERY telling.
Except, I'm not using histbark in the video. lol
Your salt blinds you.
I wonder who your friends are.0 -
Xinthisis✭✭✭✭Bug was prior to Homestead patch. Don't know exactly what it is or if it still exists. Those guys will probably say they were joking if you ask them about it but it was A-list acting if that was the case. They were already doing TBS exploit so wouldn't it past them to have another exploit that isn't well known yet.
If there was a bug with vigor, it would be commonly known and discussed daily. The way the skill works, and the massive usage it gets would be obvious knowledge for people. They probably were joking, but I haven't played at all this homestead patch so yeah. If there is a vigor bug, it's probably linked to one of the tiers of it being bugged or the other morph (the one almost no one uses) being bugged. I recommend if you suspect it to be bugged to test out the other morph first, and see how it interacts with certain things. Then if you find something, report it to zos and wait 2 patches for it to get fixed.0
