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So how bad was the hurricane nerf?

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DragonBound
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How is it affecting us in pvp and pve?
  • Nidro
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    not even noticable probably?
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  • WikileaksEU
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    I haven't logged in yet after the patch. did they change the damage or the radius?
  • Turelus
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    Entirely off topic but it took me a moment to remember that Hurricane is not a spaceship any more. :confused:

    Considering there are not 20 threads declaring the it dead, I'm guessing it's not that bad.
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  • Stannum
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    The main point of hurricane is buffs and desintegration proc at large area so dmg progression nerf is not really painfull.
    Edited by Stannum on February 7, 2017 11:10AM
  • DragonBound
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    Stannum wrote: »
    The main point of hurricane is buffs and desintegration proc at large area so dmg progression nerf is not really painfull.

    The numbers are quite large though, that alone is a big difference.
  • SilentQ
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    The base damage of hurricane is quite low. Plus, depending on what I am doing, I will not wait for the final tick and refresh a second early. I use it for aoe crit chance to synergize with Surge. I need it to be up at all times.

    I just like the proc chance for disintegrate, def buff, and crit heals. Then again, I am not in end game.
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  • DragonBound
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    SilentQ wrote: »
    The base damage of hurricane is quite low. Plus, depending on what I am doing, I will not wait for the final tick and refresh a second early. I use it for aoe crit chance to synergize with Surge. I need it to be up at all times.

    I just like the proc chance for disintegrate, def buff, and crit heals. Then again, I am not in end game.

    You mean implosion? Hurricane is physical dps isnt it?
  • SilentQ
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    CosmicSoul wrote: »

    You mean implosion? Hurricane is physical dps isnt it?

    Of course, of course. I didn't have a skill list in front of me from which to grab proper names.

    I just like AoE farming and something at 25% hp suddenly drops dead.
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  • KaiDynasty
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    It is still a good moderate source of dps, it is BALANCED
  • Juhasow
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    In PvP it's not niticable in PvE only a little.
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    KaiDynasty wrote: »
    It is still a good moderate source of dps, it is BALANCED

    lol source of dps, please provide context in which it was balanced. If you sit on top of someone with an average build with hurricane it will do almost nothing. But anything that isn't burst does almost nothing now, to be fair.
    Edited by Cathexis on February 8, 2017 5:18PM
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  • Pallio
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    Compared to the other nerfs, non crit mob set, dw, and trap, the hurricane nerf sucks by the least margin.
  • Excaltic
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    For Joe average:

    - In PvP it does 500~800 damage / sec, completely useless... Everyone has Heavy Armor, 30k defense, 3500 Impen, etc...
    - In PvE it does 1500~2500 damage / sec, nerfed down into a meh skill again... Close to being outdamaged by Grothdarr...

    So yeah, Stamsorcs have no class damage skills again... Next patch Stamsorcs will need a huge stamina class skill boost...

    I guess the devs will -need- to add a Crystal Frags stamina morph now. They refused to do so because they gave Stamsorcs Hurricane, but now they nerfed it completely into the ground damage wise...

    Stamina Sorcs need Stamina Class skills:

    - Storm Atronach -> Stamina morph (Air Atronach)
    - Pets -> Stamina based damage morph
    - Ward -> Health based shield morph
    - Crystal Shard -> Stamina based morph
    - Encase -> Stamina based immobilize
    - Bolt Escape -> Stamina based gap closer
  • DragonBound
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    Excaltic wrote: »
    For Joe average:

    - In PvP it does 500~800 damage / sec, completely useless... Everyone has Heavy Armor, 30k defense, 3500 Impen, etc...
    - In PvE it does 1500~2500 damage / sec, nerfed down into a meh skill again... Close to being outdamaged by Grothdarr...

    So yeah, Stamsorcs have no class damage skills again... Next patch Stamsorcs will need a huge stamina class skill boost...

    I guess the devs will -need- to add a Crystal Frags stamina morph now. They refused to do so because they gave Stamsorcs Hurricane, but now they nerfed it completely into the ground damage wise...

    Stamina Sorcs need Stamina Class skills:

    - Storm Atronach -> Stamina morph (Air Atronach)
    - Pets -> Stamina based damage morph
    - Ward -> Health based shield morph
    - Crystal Shard -> Stamina based morph
    - Encase -> Stamina based immobilize
    - Bolt Escape -> Stamina based gap closer

    Man this sucks if it is true, I might as well use the other morph for pvp since I mostly made this character for pvp.
  • DragonBound
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    Cathexis wrote: »
    KaiDynasty wrote: »
    It is still a good moderate source of dps, it is BALANCED

    lol source of dps, please provide context in which it was balanced. If you sit on top of someone with an average build with hurricane it will do almost nothing. But anything that isn't burst does almost nothing now, to be fair.

    Hmmm, so I guess it is still kind of useful?
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  • Excaltic
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    CosmicSoul wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    KaiDynasty wrote: »
    It is still a good moderate source of dps, it is BALANCED

    lol source of dps, please provide context in which it was balanced. If you sit on top of someone with an average build with hurricane it will do almost nothing. But anything that isn't burst does almost nothing now, to be fair.

    Hmmm, so I guess it is still kind of useful?
    Hurricane still is still useful for the following:
    - Uncloaking nightblades that run away in PvP...
    - Triggering Implosion, but this only happens once every 15 minutes or so, due to the ultra low chance of this triggering in PvP

    And that's about it...

  • DragonBound
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    Excaltic wrote: »
    CosmicSoul wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    KaiDynasty wrote: »
    It is still a good moderate source of dps, it is BALANCED

    lol source of dps, please provide context in which it was balanced. If you sit on top of someone with an average build with hurricane it will do almost nothing. But anything that isn't burst does almost nothing now, to be fair.

    Hmmm, so I guess it is still kind of useful?
    Hurricane still is still useful for the following:
    - Uncloaking nightblades that run away in PvP...
    - Triggering Implosion, but this only happens once every 15 minutes or so, due to the ultra low chance of this triggering in PvP

    And that's about it...

    What the???? Why was this even nerfed?
  • BlackMadara
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    CosmicSoul wrote: »
    Excaltic wrote: »
    CosmicSoul wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    KaiDynasty wrote: »
    It is still a good moderate source of dps, it is BALANCED

    lol source of dps, please provide context in which it was balanced. If you sit on top of someone with an average build with hurricane it will do almost nothing. But anything that isn't burst does almost nothing now, to be fair.

    Hmmm, so I guess it is still kind of useful?
    Hurricane still is still useful for the following:
    - Uncloaking nightblades that run away in PvP...
    - Triggering Implosion, but this only happens once every 15 minutes or so, due to the ultra low chance of this triggering in PvP

    And that's about it...

    What the???? Why was this even nerfed?

    It is still an uncleansable, aoe dot that provides major resists, minor expo, and the sorc passives.
  • Pallio
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    As far as dps.it is kinda pointless, but still offers buffs so I still use it. The dw/trap and monster set nerfs on top make it a painful total pacakge. Everyone is going range magic now for a reason.
  • DragonBound
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    BlackMadara wrote: »
    CosmicSoul wrote: »
    Excaltic wrote: »
    CosmicSoul wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    KaiDynasty wrote: »
    It is still a good moderate source of dps, it is BALANCED

    lol source of dps, please provide context in which it was balanced. If you sit on top of someone with an average build with hurricane it will do almost nothing. But anything that isn't burst does almost nothing now, to be fair.

    Hmmm, so I guess it is still kind of useful?
    Hurricane still is still useful for the following:
    - Uncloaking nightblades that run away in PvP...
    - Triggering Implosion, but this only happens once every 15 minutes or so, due to the ultra low chance of this triggering in PvP

    And that's about it...

    What the???? Why was this even nerfed?

    It is still an uncleansable, aoe dot that provides major resists, minor expo, and the sorc passives.

    But it was part of out dps, and a damage skill, makes the class feel less unique now.
  • Soleya
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    Pre patch, my Hurricane did 5500 max damage (with crit, etc), After patch it's 3300.

    Overall on Bloodspawn/Test Skeleton, it's a dps loss of about 1k.

    Doesn't sound like much, but when you add it to the pro sets nerf (velidreth), Trap Beast nerf, and others. I lost about 8-9k dps single target (30k pre patch to 22k post patch).
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