As an outside remark, I think (as some others have said) it's absolutely for the sake of normalizing these skill lines for newer players. Anecdotally, I've met plenty of people, and had friends express, the desire to play "with a bow" coming into the game. Obviously not fully understanding how dps works later in the game, or weapon swapping, or things in general. They get into the habit of dropping poison injection and light attacking, maybe using hail. For quite a few of them, using class spells is out of the question as they are "not a mage".

I think putting weapon "spammables", direct damage attacks like this, first will help the learning curve here. If this hurts anyone using a bow, I think that's to speak of problems with the spell Snipe and not the over all concept of organizing the actives a certain way.

It's pretty clear to me, what with a superbowl ad spot and the upcoming expansion simultaneously promising things to outside MMO players and TES fans with the nostalgia factor of Vvardenfell, that ZOS is preparing for an influx of new players.

EDIT: To clarify, the changes to bow don't make sense to us as current players because we see the bow as a PvP ganking weapon and utility backbar for PvE. New players look at it as one of their weapon options, and when they start using it they don't get a "spammable" attack until much later in the levelling process. This prevents them from picking up on how damage rotations work without outside intervention.

So that way people will experiment with more abilities then the "standard spam ability"... lol. I kinda agree with the switch, I felt that snipe was the lesser of the two, they saw it and want to adjust the order.

i mean Poison injection better be beefed up for me to have to work all the way up to it. but as a Stamblade and assassin style character, i was preparing for Lethal Arrow and Magnum shot to be on my back bar for utility anyways. if anything they took away one and gave me two. thats a good deal idc where you are. lol.

im lucky however since i switched mains and am starting from scratch. only lvl 37 Stamblade. ill have unlocked everything by the time they switch them anyways.

and if you read the patch notes it looks like they did alot of work to ALL the skill lines in preperation for new players as @KochDerDamonen said above, having a superbowl ad and temptation to those players that gave up on ESO, and are silently muttering under their breath while playing The Witcher 3, waiting for a new Elder Scrolls VI (God please make it so and put it on the Nintendo Switch)

but i digest,

most veterans need not be concerned with this, youve probably unlocked everything by now anyways.

LrdRahvin wrote: »

If this is ignorantese or typonese for DIGRESS then carry on.

you cant say that, thats OUR word

NocturnalGuideMe wrote: »

Shardaxx wrote: »

This new order really doesn't make any sense, I have no idea why they would change it, far more logical as it currently is.

they said its to encourage new players to get in the habit of using their damage dealer skills first.

aka

make it so n00bs dont have to grind as hard as everyone else has who has been playing since release.

which I guess is fine, and for people making a new Warden class, thats helpful-ish.

but I personally didnt mind learning characters myself, and saving and banking skill points or screwing up morphs and having to respec, or just respecing later on when you realize all the descions you made were ultimately not beneficial to you anymore

If they don't want newbs to grind as hard - maybe they should just give the newbs populated skill trees as a bonus for buying the game.

I guess Bow use in PvP will be more popular now.

Cadbury wrote: »

At least it kinda mkes sense for Bow. DW's twin slash/ flurry swap is just....what?

SpazzmanNDQ wrote: »

Malorey45738 wrote: »

I'm really not looking forward to having to level all these skills up again!

Agreed I was trying to speed level a Stam sorc over the weekend now once I log in I have no idea what skills I will have leveled.

This was a bad change. And how are you supposed to effectively weave snipe. It has a cast time no other spammable has a cast time. They should have swapped snipe with scatter shot.

Flurry has 1.1 second cast time

acw37162 wrote: »

SpazzmanNDQ wrote: »

Malorey45738 wrote: »

I'm really not looking forward to having to level all these skills up again!

Agreed I was trying to speed level a Stam sorc over the weekend now once I log in I have no idea what skills I will have leveled.

This was a bad change. And how are you supposed to effectively weave snipe. It has a cast time no other spammable has a cast time. They should have swapped snipe with scatter shot.

Flurry has 1.1 second cast time

That was changed a while back, Flurry is 0.6 seconds. Uppercut does have a cast time though and that is considered the spammable for 2H.

Snipe is used best with a medium weave unless you cannot use medium weaves for a specific fight, then you light weave into cast time. Otherwise for most content you activate snipe and then hold trigger for medium weave charge, when snipe cast finishes you release for medium weave in conjunction with snipe launch. The medium attack charges during the cast time of snipe, it is slightly better than light attacking into Snipes cast time.