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New Bow ability unlock order... What the?!?
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Adjusted the order of the Active Abilities in this skill line. They now unlock in the following order:
Snipe
Volley
Magnum Shot
Arrow Spray
Poison Arrow
Why in the name of all the divines would you make the weapon's standard spam ability, the one that you weave with normal attacks as part of all leveling builds, require you to level Bow all the way up using only AOE and crowd control abilities before you can actually use it?!?
I don't even...
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Kartalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭PVP snipe spam will be ten times worse, too.-
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Mashille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭personally this is one of the changes I really hate, as well as the changes to the other Skill Line orders.
The skills just don't seem right in that order and it's less cool to unlock them.
think about unlocking Uppercut for the first time ever (omg, so cool it's a massive up swing thing)
Now compare it to unlocking cleave in that place (oh, I swing my axe in an animation I can hardy see. ok)House Baratheon: 'Ours Is The Fury'0 -
PandaIsAPotato✭✭✭I think it's clear Wrobel got tired of having to level up his bow on multiple characters to spam snipe so he just lowered it.Edited by PandaIsAPotato on February 6, 2017 7:12PMSupreme Leader Panda
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SodanTok✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Maybe so people stop weaving skill that rewritAes DoT before it has even chance to proc once? And actually weave the only weavable single target skill bow has (
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Tho Arrow spray should have been first or second.Edited by SodanTok on February 6, 2017 7:15PM5 -
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✭✭✭SpazzmanNDQ wrote: »So if I unlocked it already but I'm not max level bow am I going to lose it?
If it's like it was on PTS, yes.PVP snipe spam will be ten times worse, too.
Will completely turn bow use in BwB on its head.Edited by driosketch on February 6, 2017 7:16PMMain: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
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✭They just switched all spammable to first tree ability, and snipe is the "spammable" bow skill. Dk, NB, 2H, DW and destro got the same.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Have to assume some new skills are coming to the game in some way-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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NocturnalGuideMe✭✭✭so what happens to my already unlocked and bought and morphed skills? do they just switch to the new order? or do all my skill points get bounced out so i can redo them?
is this only PC or console too?Edited by NocturnalGuideMe on February 6, 2017 7:23PMDar'Dek Do'Tenurr
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driosketch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭NocturnalGuideMe wrote: »so what happens to my already unlocked and bought and morphed skills? do they just switch to the new order? or do all my skill points get bounced out so i can redo them?
is this only PC or console too?
If you haven't leveled bow enough to unlock it at its new position, your skill point is refunded to you, if I recall correctly.Main: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
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souravami✭✭✭✭My name is Wrobel.
And I have no idea what I'm doing.
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Malorey45738 wrote: »I'm really not looking forward to having to level all these skills up again!
Agreed I was trying to speed level a Stam sorc over the weekend now once I log in I have no idea what skills I will have leveled.
This was a bad change. And how are you supposed to effectively weave snipe. It has a cast time no other spammable has a cast time. They should have swapped snipe with scatter shot.0 -
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✭✭SpazzmanNDQ wrote: »Malorey45738 wrote: »I'm really not looking forward to having to level all these skills up again!
Agreed I was trying to speed level a Stam sorc over the weekend now once I log in I have no idea what skills I will have leveled.
This was a bad change. And how are you supposed to effectively weave snipe. It has a cast time no other spammable has a cast time. They should have swapped snipe with scatter shot.
Maybe not effectively, but it is really the only thing you can weave with bow. Just weave medium attacks inbetween. Cast time means nothing for the weaving, casting snipe still cancels attack animation as with any other skill you use to weave.
//To answer what you said below me: The range means nothing, you are supposed to snipe weave even from melee range (if youre commited to weave bow skill)Edited by SodanTok on February 6, 2017 7:39PM2 -
They just switched all spammable to first tree ability, and snipe is the "spammable" bow skill. Dk, NB, 2H, DW and destro got the same.
Snipe is not a good spamable sure you can light attack weave with it but it has a cast time so unless you are at max range you are only getting two maybe three off.
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✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, Snipe should never have been moved to bottom, nor Poison Arrow away from the first or second slot. That was a horrible call.-- @xaraan --
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NocturnalGuideMe✭✭✭Wait they didnt do this to all the skill trees right?
also again, was this consoles or PC only nerf?Edited by NocturnalGuideMe on February 6, 2017 9:38PMDar'Dek Do'Tenurr
Khajiiti Stamina Nightblade
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✭SpazzmanNDQ wrote: »Malorey45738 wrote: »I'm really not looking forward to having to level all these skills up again!
Agreed I was trying to speed level a Stam sorc over the weekend now once I log in I have no idea what skills I will have leveled.
This was a bad change. And how are you supposed to effectively weave snipe. It has a cast time no other spammable has a cast time. They should have swapped snipe with scatter shot.
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✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Have to assume some new skills are coming to the game in some way
What?PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -0 -
billp_ESO✭✭✭✭We used to joke about this kind of stuff at work:
Reorganize to create the illusion of progress.2 -
Phinix1✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭We used to joke about this kind of stuff at work:
Reorganize to create the illusion of progress.
Except my rank IV Brawler got reset to Rank I Cleave so yeah, no illusion there.
Got to say I am pretty disappointed with 90% of this patch so far.
But at least I have no interest in housing so I don't feel stressed about having to farm millions of gold or cough up $100's of dollars for a copy-paste building and some chairs. XD
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✭✭✭NocturnalGuideMe wrote: »Wait they didnt do this to all the skill trees right?
also again, was this consoles or PC only nerf?
Change is on PC now, console later.Main: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
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NocturnalGuideMe✭✭✭driosketch wrote: »NocturnalGuideMe wrote: »Wait they didnt do this to all the skill trees right?
also again, was this consoles or PC only nerf?
Change is on PC now, console later.
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Shardaxx✭✭✭✭✭This new order really doesn't make any sense, I have no idea why they would change it, far more logical as it currently is.PS4 - Europe - Shardaxx - Wood Elf Nightblade - Aldmeri Dominion0 -
NocturnalGuideMe✭✭✭This new order really doesn't make any sense, I have no idea why they would change it, far more logical as it currently is.
they said its to encourage new players to get in the habit of using their damage dealer skills first.
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make it so n00bs dont have to grind as hard as everyone else has who has been playing since release.
which I guess is fine, and for people making a new Warden class, thats helpful-ish.
but I personally didnt mind learning characters myself, and saving and banking skill points or screwing up morphs and having to respec, or just respecing later on when you realize all the descions you made were ultimately not beneficial to you anymore
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Khajiiti Stamina Nightblade
Master Thief, Dark Brotherhood Executioner, Former Dro m'Athra Shade1
