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dear zos you better read, and you better take corrective action.
AzuraKin
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after the update i log on to toons and find skills most that been trained for over a year no longer fully trained. this needs fixed, i will not take the time to retrain skills plus both morphs on skills i have already done so just because you make some changes and or move them on where they unlock. i will post the ones i see, though it may not be a complete list. if you messed up morphs of skills, that will be on you to discover and fix when you fix the ones i can identify
rebecca azurakin: magicka nb
2nd: cleave
bow: poison arrow
destruction staff: destructive touch
chiaki minami: magicka templar
same as above.
padomey: magicka sorcerer
same as above.
star of dusk and dawn: magicka nb
2nd cleave
bow: poison arrow
destructive reach morph up, for training, do not know if other morph or base were effected.
princess sofia the first: magicka templar
same as first 3
dw: twin slashes
azura's handmaiden: magicka dk
same as star of dusk and dawn.
azura of the crimson gate: stamina nb
shadow: shadow cloak
same as first 3.
telvanni grandmistress: stamina sorc
same as first 3.
all of these skills were at the very least trained to morph stage, at least 90% of them 1 or both morphs fully trained. i should not have to retrain a skill + its morphs just cause you made some changes to it and/or its positioning on weapon tree. while i know some noobs will come on and say things like they moved it from slot 1 to slot 2 and slot 2 requires more xp then slot 1, they will be saying so forgetting that skill 2 then was moved to slot 1 thus the total xp between the skills earned remains the same. also this flys in the face of established procedure that when skills have been changed for any reason, including skills changed to point they had no remnants of the skill before change (basically old skill was removed, new skill added in place) there was no change made to xp earned. fix this zos. i have spent too much time and energy on my characters to ensure that all skills including ww and vampire skills were aquired, trained and both morphs trained on each and every character. i should not have to repeat a skill because you decide to make changes.
rebecca azurakin: magicka nb
2nd: cleave
bow: poison arrow
destruction staff: destructive touch
chiaki minami: magicka templar
same as above.
padomey: magicka sorcerer
same as above.
star of dusk and dawn: magicka nb
2nd cleave
bow: poison arrow
destructive reach morph up, for training, do not know if other morph or base were effected.
princess sofia the first: magicka templar
same as first 3
dw: twin slashes
azura's handmaiden: magicka dk
same as star of dusk and dawn.
azura of the crimson gate: stamina nb
shadow: shadow cloak
same as first 3.
telvanni grandmistress: stamina sorc
same as first 3.
all of these skills were at the very least trained to morph stage, at least 90% of them 1 or both morphs fully trained. i should not have to retrain a skill + its morphs just cause you made some changes to it and/or its positioning on weapon tree. while i know some noobs will come on and say things like they moved it from slot 1 to slot 2 and slot 2 requires more xp then slot 1, they will be saying so forgetting that skill 2 then was moved to slot 1 thus the total xp between the skills earned remains the same. also this flys in the face of established procedure that when skills have been changed for any reason, including skills changed to point they had no remnants of the skill before change (basically old skill was removed, new skill added in place) there was no change made to xp earned. fix this zos. i have spent too much time and energy on my characters to ensure that all skills including ww and vampire skills were aquired, trained and both morphs trained on each and every character. i should not have to repeat a skill because you decide to make changes.
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Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The ultimatum is strong with this one.
If you had it unlocked before, it should still be unlocked
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Darlon✭✭✭✭✭Kagetenchu wrote: »They changed the order of skills so certain skills lossed xp
Which is a crappy move on zos part... this shouldn't happen like this...3 -
AzuraKin✭✭✭✭✭KAGETENCHU, they moved skills around, but that doesnt change fact i skill earned x xp on skill slot 1, x xp on skill slot 2. the fact i earned that xp with the skills in those slots should not change training lvl on a skill because they choose to change its slot. it is wrong, decietful, dishonest, evil, and drives players like me, who are the backbone of this game. while new players make for burst of cash flow, it is those of us that play this game day in day out for years that is the heart and soul of a game. we should not be punished because zos decides to change some skill positioning.v160 spellsword (nightblade)
v160 restoration archmage (Templar)
v160 battlemage (sorcerer)
v160 restoration archmage (Templar)
v160 warrior (DragonKnight)
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AzuraKin✭✭✭✭✭anyone who is not upset with zos taking xp away from people, which is hard fing work on thier part, should be *** pissed the *** off.v160 spellsword (nightblade)
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v160 battlemage (sorcerer)
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DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭after the update i log on to toons and find skills most that been trained for over a year no longer fully trained. this needs fixed, i will not take the time to retrain skills plus both morphs on skills i have already done so just because you make some changes and or move them on where they unlock. i will post the ones i see, though it may not be a complete list. if you messed up morphs of skills, that will be on you to discover and fix when you fix the ones i can identify
rebecca azurakin: magicka nb
2nd: cleave
bow: poison arrow
destruction staff: destructive touch
chiaki minami: magicka templar
same as above.
padomey: magicka sorcerer
same as above.
star of dusk and dawn: magicka nb
2nd cleave
bow: poison arrow
destructive reach morph up, for training, do not know if other morph or base were effected.
princess sofia the first: magicka templar
same as first 3
dw: twin slashes
azura's handmaiden: magicka dk
same as star of dusk and dawn.
azura of the crimson gate: stamina nb
shadow: shadow cloak
same as first 3.
telvanni grandmistress: stamina sorc
same as first 3.
all of these skills were at the very least trained to morph stage, at least 90% of them 1 or both morphs fully trained. i should not have to retrain a skill + its morphs just cause you made some changes to it and/or its positioning on weapon tree. while i know some noobs will come on and say things like they moved it from slot 1 to slot 2 and slot 2 requires more xp then slot 1, they will be saying so forgetting that skill 2 then was moved to slot 1 thus the total xp between the skills earned remains the same. also this flys in the face of established procedure that when skills have been changed for any reason, including skills changed to point they had no remnants of the skill before change (basically old skill was removed, new skill added in place) there was no change made to xp earned. fix this zos. i have spent too much time and energy on my characters to ensure that all skills including ww and vampire skills were aquired, trained and both morphs trained on each and every character. i should not have to repeat a skill because you decide to make changes.
Prove it or it ain't true.
for all we know, you could be asking them to boost your skills and you don't have to do anything!
Sorry - just kidding, that's just how I read it.1 -
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✭✭I wonder if it is indeed something to do with changing the order of the skills. Can't get on yet to see if my skills are affected too since I'm on EU.Priests of Hircine
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DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭KAGETENCHU, they moved skills around, but that doesnt change fact i skill earned x xp on skill slot 1, x xp on skill slot 2. the fact i earned that xp with the skills in those slots should not change training lvl on a skill because they choose to change its slot. it is wrong, decietful, dishonest, evil, and drives players like me, who are the backbone of this game. while new players make for burst of cash flow, it is those of us that play this game day in day out for years that is the heart and soul of a game. we should not be punished because zos decides to change some skill positioning.
"...players like me, who are the backbone of the game..."??? [snip]
Sheesh
As far as I'm concerned, any player that acts and issues ultimatums like this deserves to, not only, have ALL their progress removed, but banned. [snip]
That's not to say that it's not a terrible thing if it happens. It just could have been handled with a bit more maturity and grace.
[edited for insult]Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on February 6, 2017 9:05PM9 -
Sigma957✭✭✭✭✭The skill changes were on the the pts and I didnt notice the loss of xp as my toons were maxed in those skill lines. Were you maxed in these skill lines? If so then it should not have affected you.1 -
AzuraKin✭✭✭✭✭after the update i log on to toons and find skills most that been trained for over a year no longer fully trained. this needs fixed, i will not take the time to retrain skills plus both morphs on skills i have already done so just because you make some changes and or move them on where they unlock. i will post the ones i see, though it may not be a complete list. if you messed up morphs of skills, that will be on you to discover and fix when you fix the ones i can identify
rebecca azurakin: magicka nb
2nd: cleave
bow: poison arrow
destruction staff: destructive touch
chiaki minami: magicka templar
same as above.
padomey: magicka sorcerer
same as above.
star of dusk and dawn: magicka nb
2nd cleave
bow: poison arrow
destructive reach morph up, for training, do not know if other morph or base were effected.
princess sofia the first: magicka templar
same as first 3
dw: twin slashes
azura's handmaiden: magicka dk
same as star of dusk and dawn.
azura of the crimson gate: stamina nb
shadow: shadow cloak
same as first 3.
telvanni grandmistress: stamina sorc
same as first 3.
all of these skills were at the very least trained to morph stage, at least 90% of them 1 or both morphs fully trained. i should not have to retrain a skill + its morphs just cause you made some changes to it and/or its positioning on weapon tree. while i know some noobs will come on and say things like they moved it from slot 1 to slot 2 and slot 2 requires more xp then slot 1, they will be saying so forgetting that skill 2 then was moved to slot 1 thus the total xp between the skills earned remains the same. also this flys in the face of established procedure that when skills have been changed for any reason, including skills changed to point they had no remnants of the skill before change (basically old skill was removed, new skill added in place) there was no change made to xp earned. fix this zos. i have spent too much time and energy on my characters to ensure that all skills including ww and vampire skills were aquired, trained and both morphs trained on each and every character. i should not have to repeat a skill because you decide to make changes.
Prove it or it ain't true.
for all we know, you could be asking them to boost your skills and you don't have to do anything!
Sorry - just kidding, that's just how I read it.
zos can see history of the character which would include xp earned on skills. plus the fact that i am very vocal on how i train each and every skill. and having to respec toons that already trained a skill, both morphs and respeced out of those skills and now zos saying i will have to put points into them again, spend who knows how long training them again. i dont xp grind, that bores me, i quest, and i do random dungeons at times, or grind specific dungeons for gears. half the toons i have are 100% complete except for the new weapon ults, other half are at least 60-70% and some as high as 90% done with all skills all morphs.v160 spellsword (nightblade)
v160 restoration archmage (Templar)
v160 battlemage (sorcerer)
v160 restoration archmage (Templar)
v160 warrior (DragonKnight)
v160 assassin (nightblade)
v160 swordsman (sorcerer)
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Balamoor✭✭✭✭✭
✭How about asking nicely
where I come from asking like that will get you a broken nose.7 -
Pallio✭✭✭✭✭
✭They figured everyone will have to rebuild and learn new skills now anyway, with all the nerfs.0 -
DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭after the update i log on to toons and find skills most that been trained for over a year no longer fully trained. this needs fixed, i will not take the time to retrain skills plus both morphs on skills i have already done so just because you make some changes and or move them on where they unlock. i will post the ones i see, though it may not be a complete list. if you messed up morphs of skills, that will be on you to discover and fix when you fix the ones i can identify
rebecca azurakin: magicka nb
2nd: cleave
bow: poison arrow
destruction staff: destructive touch
chiaki minami: magicka templar
same as above.
padomey: magicka sorcerer
same as above.
star of dusk and dawn: magicka nb
2nd cleave
bow: poison arrow
destructive reach morph up, for training, do not know if other morph or base were effected.
princess sofia the first: magicka templar
same as first 3
dw: twin slashes
azura's handmaiden: magicka dk
same as star of dusk and dawn.
azura of the crimson gate: stamina nb
shadow: shadow cloak
same as first 3.
telvanni grandmistress: stamina sorc
same as first 3.
all of these skills were at the very least trained to morph stage, at least 90% of them 1 or both morphs fully trained. i should not have to retrain a skill + its morphs just cause you made some changes to it and/or its positioning on weapon tree. while i know some noobs will come on and say things like they moved it from slot 1 to slot 2 and slot 2 requires more xp then slot 1, they will be saying so forgetting that skill 2 then was moved to slot 1 thus the total xp between the skills earned remains the same. also this flys in the face of established procedure that when skills have been changed for any reason, including skills changed to point they had no remnants of the skill before change (basically old skill was removed, new skill added in place) there was no change made to xp earned. fix this zos. i have spent too much time and energy on my characters to ensure that all skills including ww and vampire skills were aquired, trained and both morphs trained on each and every character. i should not have to repeat a skill because you decide to make changes.
Prove it or it ain't true.
for all we know, you could be asking them to boost your skills and you don't have to do anything!
Sorry - just kidding, that's just how I read it.
zos can see history of the character which would include xp earned on skills. plus the fact that i am very vocal on how i train each and every skill. and having to respec toons that already trained a skill, both morphs and respeced out of those skills and now zos saying i will have to put points into them again, spend who knows how long training them again. i dont xp grind, that bores me, i quest, and i do random dungeons at times, or grind specific dungeons for gears. half the toons i have are 100% complete except for the new weapon ults, other half are at least 60-70% and some as high as 90% done with all skills all morphs.
Hey! I said I was kidding. Your post just seemed a little extreme.0 -
Balamoor✭✭✭✭✭
✭KAGETENCHU, they moved skills around, but that doesnt change fact i skill earned x xp on skill slot 1, x xp on skill slot 2. the fact i earned that xp with the skills in those slots should not change training lvl on a skill because they choose to change its slot. it is wrong, decietful, dishonest, evil, and drives players like me, who are the backbone of this game. while new players make for burst of cash flow, it is those of us that play this game day in day out for years that is the heart and soul of a game. we should not be punished because zos decides to change some skill positioning.
"...players like me, who are the backbone of the game..."???
Oh please. Can anybody say EGO!
Sheesh
As far as I'm concerned, any player that acts and issues ultimatums like this deserves to, not only, have ALL their progress removed, but banned.
Who the f*** do you think you are?
That's not to say that it's not a terrible thing if it happens. It just could have been handled with a bit more maturity and grace.
Yeah the toxicity like the op spews, is what really is giving this forum and to a lesser extent community a bad name. I have had several friends stroll by the forums read a couple post and chalked the game up to another LoL cesspool. I had to show them the in game community isn't representative of the entitled baby's that incessantly cry on this forum. I have heard that ZoS has plans to clean up the forums.....and I honestly hope they do, I have seen it work for other MMo's6 -
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✭✭✭✭This isn't the first time this has happened with skills that are reordered. They know that this is a result but they do it anyway without fixing it.Edited by Armitas on February 6, 2017 6:26PMRetired.
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✭✭✭✭✭EDIT: I responded to the wrong thread.
Yes, that is a pretty ridicuolus bug OP. Hope they address it, but I doubt they willEdited by MLGProPlayer on February 6, 2017 6:36PM0 -
AzuraKin✭✭✭✭✭The skill changes were on the the pts and I didnt notice the loss of xp as my toons were maxed in those skill lines. Were you maxed in these skill lines? If so then it should not have affected you.
except for weapon ultimates:
rebecca azurakin all skills all morphs fully trained 2+ years
chiaki minami: all skills all morphs fully trained nearly 2 years
padomey: all skills all morphs fully trained nearly 2 years
princess sofia the first: all skills all morphs except vampire fully trained for about 8-9 months.
telvanni grandmistress: 90% of skills and morphs fully trained
star of dusk and dawn is about 60-70% complete.
azura's handmaiden: at least 80% complete, only 1 set of dw morphs, 2 dw skills of other morphs and 13 or 18 other skills one side morphs left to train.
azura of the crimson gate, had these morphs
mass hysteria
sap essence
malefic wreath
refresh path
shadow image
double take
reapers marck
merciless resolve
on top of the morphs currently speced into.
all my toons that did not have a skill not fully lvled to morph range, you can tell because i have never, ever ever ever in life of that toon put a skill point into it. the difference is if you never put a skill point into a skill, it will be blank to the right of the skill icon, if you do spend a point into a skill, it will permanently show the farthest progression on a bar to the right of the skill icon. and i can tell you this, if i ever put a skill point into a skill with exception of weapon ults, that skill was and is fully lvled to point of morphing. and i can say this, i will not resub, and further action may be taken if it is not fixed, and fixed speedily.v160 spellsword (nightblade)
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Hand_Bacon✭✭✭✭✭Grab a couple of those xp pots and go level them again, shouldn't take long, thats what I plan on doing. Until I saw this option, that is, threatening people with "or else"...
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AzuraKin✭✭✭✭✭Yeah the toxicity like the op spews, is what really is giving this forum and to a lesser extent community a bad name. I have had several friends stroll by the forums read a couple post and chalked the game up to another LoL cesspool. I had to show them the in game community isn't representative of the entitled baby's that incessantly cry on this forum. I have heard that ZoS has plans to clean up the forums.....and I honestly hope they do, I have seen it work for other MMo's
its people like you who are afraid to admit or talk about issues, and hold zos accountable for issues that is a problem. there is nothing toxic about anything i have stated. [snip]
[edited for flaming]Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on February 6, 2017 6:56PMv160 spellsword (nightblade)
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Nobody had XP taken away from them. The order skills are unlocked was changed. The earlier a skill is unlocked, the less XP it takes to level it.anyone who is not upset with zos taking xp away from people, which is hard fing work on thier part, should be *** pissed the *** off.
Here's a simplistic example of what happened.
Skill A was the first skill unlocked in this skill line, and Skill B was the second. They traded places.
Skill A used to take 100K XP to level to max, while Skill B used to take 200K.
If a player had earned 100K XP in Skill A prior to the update (just enough to max it), after the update it would no longer be at max rank. You've still got 100K XP in the skill, but now you're only halfway to max rank.
Is it an annoying change when your build relies on certain skills that are no longer where they once were? Of course it is! But you haven't actually had XP taken away from you.
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