probablyafk wrote: »$40 Morrowind:
- 1 new player class
- 1 new zone
- 1 new trial
- 2 new PvP arenas (new mode of PvP play)
$50 Legion
- 1 new player class
- 5 new zones
- 2 (+1) new raids
- 2 new PvP arenas
- PvP overhaul (including entire new abilities just for PvP)
- Class revamp for all existing classes
- 10 new dungeons
- World Quest chain
- New Mythic+ dungeon difficulties for all content
- New Story Content Specific Zone
- Artifact Weapons for each class (new ways to play)
- Class Halls (including massive amounts of quests)
- New Transmog system, Profession Revamp, Animations and more ...
Who's complaining about the price? It's what we get for that money that's the problem.

probablyafk wrote: »$40 Morrowind:
- 1 new player class
- 1 new zone
- 1 new trial
- 2 new PvP arenas (new mode of PvP play)
$50 Legion
- 1 new player class
- 5 new zones
- 2 (+1) new raids
- 2 new PvP arenas
- PvP overhaul (including entire new abilities just for PvP)
- Class revamp for all existing classes
- 10 new dungeons
- World Quest chain
- New Mythic+ dungeon difficulties for all content
- New Story Content Specific Zone
- Artifact Weapons for each class (new ways to play)
- Class Halls (including massive amounts of quests)
- New Transmog system, Profession Revamp, Animations and more ...
Who's complaining about the price? It's what we get for that money that's the problem.
subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »Vocal minority.
probablyafk wrote: »$40 Morrowind:
- 1 new player class
- 1 new zone
- 1 new trial
- 2 new PvP arenas (new mode of PvP play)
$50 Legion
- 1 new player class
- 5 new zones
- 2 (+1) new raids
- 2 new PvP arenas
- PvP overhaul (including entire new abilities just for PvP)
- Class revamp for all existing classes
- 10 new dungeons
- World Quest chain
- New Mythic+ dungeon difficulties for all content
- New Story Content Specific Zone
- Artifact Weapons for each class (new ways to play)
- Class Halls (including massive amounts of quests)
- New Transmog system, Profession Revamp, Animations and more ...
Who's complaining about the price? It's what we get for that money that's the problem.
probablyafk wrote: »$40 Morrowind:
- 1 new player class
- 1 new zone
- 1 new trial
- 2 new PvP arenas (new mode of PvP play)
$50 Legion
- 1 new player class
- 5 new zones
- 2 (+1) new raids
- 2 new PvP arenas
- PvP overhaul (including entire new abilities just for PvP)
- Class revamp for all existing classes
- 10 new dungeons
- World Quest chain
- New Mythic+ dungeon difficulties for all content
- New Story Content Specific Zone
- Artifact Weapons for each class (new ways to play)
- Class Halls (including massive amounts of quests)
- New Transmog system, Profession Revamp, Animations and more ...
Who's complaining about the price? It's what we get for that money that's the problem.
sounds like you miss WoW...
Apples and oranges really, WoW is the game that revolves around raiding, there is literally nothing else to do but maybe PVP and that's getting to be a big maybe....in ESO you never have to touch a Raid Dungeon, Crafting actually matters I have been playing the hell out of it since launch and still haven't done everything. Anyway I'm not complaining about dollar per content because I'm happy with the bonuses and extras they are giving.
My notion of value is as valid as anyone else so screams of Rip off aren't going to do much to the vast majority that has made up their minds, though I do think it pisses off some of the folks that want to see the game fail.
SnuggleMePlease wrote: »I understand that you ESO+ subscribers are quite heated, and reasonably so, but to everyone who is not a sub, why are you guys all so mean to Zenimax about paying for more content?? It is a LARGE amount of stuff with the upgrade, so in my mind, it SHOULD be a bit higher in cost. Also, people are acting like 40$ is some MONSTEROUS price, which really isn't (again, if you are paying for ESO+, I completely understand).
What you mean to say is that $40 dollars is no big deal for you. Thank you for coming to the forums to flaunt your economic privilege, although not everyone is in your financial situation. Please think about this before posting such nonsense.
But on the other side of the coin your coming on this forum crying poverty... which is your situation, so I can't wrap my head around the fact that you are just doing the same thing...
I come from a background where $5 was a big deal... my parents were immigrants who worked 2 jobs each... and trust me they were not "privileged" enough to be sitting around playing a video game... so you having the time to come on a forum and bemoan the fact that $40 is a big deal is pretty disingenuous... if it is a" big deal" then like a previous poster said, it might be time to better your situation by maybe furthering your education and getting a better job so that $40 would not be a "big deal"
Where have I ever said they shouldn't be playing the game, but bemoaning the fact that they can't afford something, and then calling someone else privileged for being able to afford the said thing is disingenuous... If you can play the game within the constraints of your economic situation and it makes you happy then more power to you, but if you cannot afford to allot $40 or whatever price they charge, then its pretty... simple play the part of the game that you have been enjoying up to now and can afford and not the new content...
You come to these forums and it is the same handful of people crying about something......anything, yet ESO is pretty much universally praised on fan and for profit gaming news sites, it has won MMO of the year for two years straight. A small handful of it's past awards include:
- Digital Trends: Best MMO
- Game Critics Award: Best Role Playing Game
- Game Informer: Best MMO Game
- IGN: Best MMO Game
- Just Push Start: Best MMO of E3 2013
- OnlineWelten: Best E3 RPG
- PC Gamer: Most Valuable Game
- The Escapist: We Love It Award
- WarCry: Best MMO
But if you listened to the hate machine on these forums the game is a broken mess with deserted servers and Scrooge McDuck is running the Company on the Bill Gates greed plan.
It's laughable really.
subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »Vocal minority.
Spectral_Lord wrote: »I wish I had your life where 40 bucks is an insignificant amount of cash. For me it's damn near a month's worth of food.
SnuggleMePlease wrote: »SnuggleMePlease wrote: »I understand that you ESO+ subscribers are quite heated, and reasonably so, but to everyone who is not a sub, why are you guys all so mean to Zenimax about paying for more content?? It is a LARGE amount of stuff with the upgrade, so in my mind, it SHOULD be a bit higher in cost. Also, people are acting like 40$ is some MONSTEROUS price, which really isn't (again, if you are paying for ESO+, I completely understand).
What you mean to say is that $40 dollars is no big deal for you. Thank you for coming to the forums to flaunt your economic privilege, although not everyone is in your financial situation. Please think about this before posting such nonsense.
But on the other side of the coin your coming on this forum crying poverty... which is your situation, so I can't wrap my head around the fact that you are just doing the same thing...
I come from a background where $5 was a big deal... my parents were immigrants who worked 2 jobs each... and trust me they were not "privileged" enough to be sitting around playing a video game... so you having the time to come on a forum and bemoan the fact that $40 is a big deal is pretty disingenuous... if it is a" big deal" then like a previous poster said, it might be time to better your situation by maybe furthering your education and getting a better job so that $40 would not be a "big deal"
When did I say anything about my personal situation? What I was calling for was an awareness that this community is made up of many individuals of varying economic backgrounds. I said nothing about my own situation.
Since you seem so interested, however, I'm an American, full-time student who also works part-time. In the little free time that I have left outside my classes, homework, job, and family commitments, I do enjoy playing ESO and coming to chat on the forums about topics that I feel are worth discussing. Obviously, this isn't a very lucrative field. I specified the fact that I am American because a college education in the US tends to be very expensive, which means I have very little left over for extraneous purchases after paying for tuition, food, housing, textbooks, etc.
However, you missed the point entirely in your attempt to spread vitriol. It isn't about me, or any single individual for that matter, so much as it is about having an understanding that there are many members of the community that come from economic backgrounds that can only be described as tense. We should be considerate of that fact.Where have I ever said they shouldn't be playing the game, but bemoaning the fact that they can't afford something, and then calling someone else privileged for being able to afford the said thing is disingenuous... If you can play the game within the constraints of your economic situation and it makes you happy then more power to you, but if you cannot afford to allot $40 or whatever price they charge, then its pretty... simple play the part of the game that you have been enjoying up to now and can afford and not the new content...
Your argument essentially boils down to, "If you can't afford something, then sit down and shut up." Yeah, how about no? How about you sit down and stop impeding those who are only asking for a little bit of conscientiousness and compassion?
xskinzcity wrote: »I spent over $1000 on crown store items so $40 is nothing... just hope the game gets fixed by then.
Spectral_Lord wrote: »I wish I had your life where 40 bucks is an insignificant amount of cash. For me it's damn near a month's worth of food.
what do you eat ... Beans and Rice??
40 Bucks i pay at least once a month for an amazing meal at the steak house
My notion of value is as valid as anyone else so screams of Rip off aren't going to do much to the vast majority that has made up their minds, though I do think it pisses off some of the folks that want to see the game fail.
probablyafk wrote: »My notion of value is as valid as anyone else so screams of Rip off aren't going to do much to the vast majority that has made up their minds, though I do think it pisses off some of the folks that want to see the game fail.
I don't want to see the game fail. But I would love to see more people demanding more from ZOS for the $40+ they'll pay for an expansion.
I agree the comparison of WoW to ESO is not simple But, seriously, if Morrowind isn't really amazing for quality then we all lose. Every player loses. All we have to do is apply some pressure and they will spend more time adding more features. How hard is that to grasp? 1 trial. 0 dungeons. 1 zone. Seriously. That's an Expanasion in your world?
Having to pay for an expansion is something I don't really have too many problems with, it just irks me that there is a possible pointless level cap increase that will result in me having to re-gear 10 characters that all have multiple gold crafted/farmed sets.
Not even going to mention the maelstrom grind, of which, I still do not have a fire staff from, after, how long since the arena got released? Okay, I guess I did mention it. Regardless, it ended up with me getting a lot of stamina weapons that got me to make quite a few stamina builds, I am not looking forwards to grinding all that out again, simply to get back to the same ' power level' as I am currently.
This all in all is my only gripe, I will end up buying the expansion, as I obviously want the class and the ability to get in the new zone(s?). I do wish however, they would make the class available to everyone, this would make it a little bit more fair in my opinion.
edit: Before anyone mentions Imperials, they aren't a class, simply a race. There are many alternative races to pick from that are as strong, or even stronger.
I_killed_Vivec wrote: »I wonder how many people will essentially trade in unwanted content (Wrothgar, Thieves, DB, etc.) that they have already completed for Morrowind... because that's exactly what you'll do if you unsub for a few months after having bought Morrowind.
As things stand I can see myself subbing for six months a year - playing all DLC, then unsubbing for six months when playing the "expansions" I've bought. And maybe buying the occasional DLC I really want with crowns I've built up. What they gain in selling me expansions they lose when I unsub...
I wouldn't be surprised if ZoS are forcing me into saving money!
Amazing ESO is asking for more money HAHA and people are still playing this broken game. What a bunch of tools you lot are.
So to get this right, its been 3 months since last time the goal posts were moved, how many of you who are not living at home have time to keep up with endgame/pvp content?
I could afford this expansion 1000 times over + but I don't have the time to finsh it and enjoy it before the next game changing update comes out. But then again I wouldnt play a online game that gives me over 60ms ping let alone 300+ on a fiber line.
Spectral_Lord wrote: »I wish I had your life where 40 bucks is an insignificant amount of cash. For me it's damn near a month's worth of food.