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Magicka Roll Dodge
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AoDD33pfri3d wrote: »Sorc does have a skill I believe it's called streak
This is true, and it's also a skill that is only accessible to one class, leaving the other three (soon to be four) with no magicka alternative to dodge rolling. Plus, streak is also a CC, which is not something that I believe should be a part of dodge rolling (or a potential magicka-based counterpart).0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »sodantokb16_ESO wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »sodantokb16_ESO wrote: »In what world would be builds going 100% magicka while being completely freely available to perform every mean of defense while disregarding resources... interesting?
In the same world that stamina builds can do all of that now
Damn, where is that stam shield hidden. Where are the stam morphs for all the magicka only class abilities.
Tell me, if you could block and dodge with magicka, what would be stam used for on magicka character, except for never ending supply of break free resource.
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Where is stam streak, where is stam cloak. No I am not saying every class should have equal skills, but youre basically saying your class of choice should have everything <class you dont play> has.
You're missing my point. I don't think there should be a magicka and stamina morph of every ability ever, I'm saying that stamina builds can use magicka abilities as essentially bonus abilities, as magicka can be completely ignored by a stamina class. Magicka builds cannot avoid using stamina in the way that stamina builds can avoid using magicka. Stam builds can slot zero magicka abilities, use zero magicka, and play effectively. Magicka builds have no choice but to use stamina when CC'd, when blocking an attack (except with a frost staff in the next update), or when wanting to dodge roll. I just feel like the game would benefit (and player creativity would flourish) if there was a magicka alternative to roll dodging.
Simplest way to remove that imbalance is making dodge roll and CC break draw resources from both magicka and stamina pools. So if a CC break costs 6000 stamina now, it would be changed to cost 3000 stamina and 3000 magicka. That way both stamina and magicka builds are equal in the CC game.
@Sharee and that would create an imbalance unless magika shields scaled to max health and protected for 30% of max health.
Want to make everything vanilla boring the same then say good bye to the large magika shields
I play a mDK whose shield already scales to max health and covers way less than 30% health bar (igneous is 3900 shield on 23000 HP bar).
*Ehm*
Sorry. Preach on.
@Sharee your doing it wrong. Harness magika of the other morph. DK class shield is same as Templar and bone shield in that is died 30% of max health.
Ehm,
Glad I could help you learn something new about the game.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »sodantokb16_ESO wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »sodantokb16_ESO wrote: »In what world would be builds going 100% magicka while being completely freely available to perform every mean of defense while disregarding resources... interesting?
In the same world that stamina builds can do all of that now
Damn, where is that stam shield hidden. Where are the stam morphs for all the magicka only class abilities.
Tell me, if you could block and dodge with magicka, what would be stam used for on magicka character, except for never ending supply of break free resource.
//Edit:
Where is stam streak, where is stam cloak. No I am not saying every class should have equal skills, but youre basically saying your class of choice should have everything <class you dont play> has.
You're missing my point. I don't think there should be a magicka and stamina morph of every ability ever, I'm saying that stamina builds can use magicka abilities as essentially bonus abilities, as magicka can be completely ignored by a stamina class. Magicka builds cannot avoid using stamina in the way that stamina builds can avoid using magicka. Stam builds can slot zero magicka abilities, use zero magicka, and play effectively. Magicka builds have no choice but to use stamina when CC'd, when blocking an attack (except with a frost staff in the next update), or when wanting to dodge roll. I just feel like the game would benefit (and player creativity would flourish) if there was a magicka alternative to roll dodging.
Simplest way to remove that imbalance is making dodge roll and CC break draw resources from both magicka and stamina pools. So if a CC break costs 6000 stamina now, it would be changed to cost 3000 stamina and 3000 magicka. That way both stamina and magicka builds are equal in the CC game.
@Sharee and that would create an imbalance unless magika shields scaled to max health and protected for 30% of max health.
Want to make everything vanilla boring the same then say good bye to the large magika shields
I play a mDK whose shield already scales to max health and covers way less than 30% health bar (igneous is 3900 shield on 23000 HP bar).
*Ehm*
Sorry. Preach on.
@Sharee your doing it wrong. Harness magika of the other morph. DK class shield is same as Templar and bone shield in that is died 30% of max health.
Ehm,
Glad I could help you learn something new about the game.
So using your own classes' abilities is "doing it wrong" now.
Gotcha.
Nevermind the major mending.
(By the way, harness is like a 7K shield at best, which is still less than 30% of my HP bar, but thanks for the tip anyway.)Edited by Sharee on February 3, 2017 9:40PM1 -
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✭✭Magicka is already performing better, magicka has more self heals and shields, no need for magicka dodgeroll0 -
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✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »sodantokb16_ESO wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »sodantokb16_ESO wrote: »In what world would be builds going 100% magicka while being completely freely available to perform every mean of defense while disregarding resources... interesting?
In the same world that stamina builds can do all of that now
Damn, where is that stam shield hidden. Where are the stam morphs for all the magicka only class abilities.
Tell me, if you could block and dodge with magicka, what would be stam used for on magicka character, except for never ending supply of break free resource.
//Edit:
Where is stam streak, where is stam cloak. No I am not saying every class should have equal skills, but youre basically saying your class of choice should have everything <class you dont play> has.
You're missing my point. I don't think there should be a magicka and stamina morph of every ability ever, I'm saying that stamina builds can use magicka abilities as essentially bonus abilities, as magicka can be completely ignored by a stamina class. Magicka builds cannot avoid using stamina in the way that stamina builds can avoid using magicka. Stam builds can slot zero magicka abilities, use zero magicka, and play effectively. Magicka builds have no choice but to use stamina when CC'd, when blocking an attack (except with a frost staff in the next update), or when wanting to dodge roll. I just feel like the game would benefit (and player creativity would flourish) if there was a magicka alternative to roll dodging.
Simplest way to remove that imbalance is making dodge roll and CC break draw resources from both magicka and stamina pools. So if a CC break costs 6000 stamina now, it would be changed to cost 3000 stamina and 3000 magicka. That way both stamina and magicka builds are equal in the CC game.
@Sharee and that would create an imbalance unless magika shields scaled to max health and protected for 30% of max health.
Want to make everything vanilla boring the same then say good bye to the large magika shields
I play a mDK whose shield already scales to max health and covers way less than 30% health bar (igneous is 3900 shield on 23000 HP bar).
*Ehm*
Sorry. Preach on.
@Sharee your doing it wrong. Harness magika of the other morph. DK class shield is same as Templar and bone shield in that is died 30% of max health.
Ehm,
Glad I could help you learn something new about the game.
harness magicka is such a bad ability. A single shield is weak. The only way shields become strong is if you stack them and that's only a option for 1 class. If you play magicka you are better off just going heavy armor and not using a shield at all. I find it funny that what is suppose to be magicka classes best defense option isn't even used.Edited by thankyourat on February 3, 2017 11:03PM2