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Slimeclaw set underestimated?? PVP POST PROC NERF

IlCanis_LupuslI
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For my setup (ww build) recently discovered this monster set. It's awesome for classes who can't get minor brutality from a class ability.
Basically 60 % damage increase compared to double kina without the 30% cost increase. Why don't i see more people running it in PvP??? I'd imagine its good for Templars or sorcs even thou the first peace bonus does suck a bit....
Edited by IlCanis_LupuslI on February 3, 2017 11:58AM
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  • Tempah
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    I think velidreth etc. does more damage and if you do pve you get it from VO I think
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  • IlCanis_LupuslI
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    True but that stuff misses its target to often and after the proc set nerf it won't be as good as now
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  • Qbiken
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    In my opinion slimecraw will be new meta. Since monsterhelmet can´t crit anymore the 8% extra damage will compensate nicely (already does to be honest)
  • Dracane
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    It feels bad using it. Because you know, that Nightblades can get this bonus for free, by slotting grim focus.
    I think its underrestimated, but any other set deals more damage in the end.
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  • Qbiken
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    Dracane wrote: »
    It feels bad using it. Because you know, that Nightblades can get this bonus for free, by slotting grim focus.
    I think its underrestimated, but any other set deals more damage in the end.

    Yea as NB it´s worthless set. Haven´t tested it in action yet (tested in PvP, not in PvE), since I haven´t got the rigtht traits yet.
  • Edziu
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    In my opinion slimecraw will be new meta. Since monsterhelmet can´t crit anymore the 8% extra damage will compensate nicely (already does to be honest)

    to be honest in every good group healer will give you this bonus from combat prayer, 100% uptime will be hard but his uptime will be enough to just *** this set
  • soll
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    Edziu wrote: »
    Qbiken wrote: »
    In my opinion slimecraw will be new meta. Since monsterhelmet can´t crit anymore the 8% extra damage will compensate nicely (already does to be honest)

    to be honest in every good group healer will give you this bonus from combat prayer, 100% uptime will be hard but his uptime will be enough to just *** this set

    In pve no need for this set. Combat prayer up time is always 90-100%. some bosses are harder, but anyway up time is high. better to slot non crit monster helm, which still hits pretty hard.
    more over, there is no reason for healer not to slot combat prayer, because now we have couple flexible slots during change for ele drain, siphon and aura.

    nah. PvP is mostly for burst damage, where again, veli/whatsoever can be better
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  • DPShiro
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    It's completely useless as healers use Combat Prayer.
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  • IlCanis_LupuslI
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    Edziu wrote: »
    Qbiken wrote: »
    In my opinion slimecraw will be new meta. Since monsterhelmet can´t crit anymore the 8% extra damage will compensate nicely (already does to be honest)

    to be honest in every good group healer will give you this bonus from combat prayer, 100% uptime will be hard but his uptime will be enough to just *** this set

    I'm talking PvP not pve plus even as a nb I'd rather have piercing mark and siphoning attacks (only 5 attacks per bar sucks )slotted( plus in ww form minor beserk isn't available for me personally)
    But for other classes who can't do this in PvP I'm guessing would be awesome especially after they nerf proc sets(thank you zenimax)
    Edited by IlCanis_LupuslI on February 3, 2017 10:59AM
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  • IlCanis_LupuslI
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    Post nerf I'm imagining magplar, magsorc, stamplar and stamsorc could use/ this set
    Edited by IlCanis_LupuslI on February 3, 2017 10:51AM
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  • Edziu
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    Edziu wrote: »
    Qbiken wrote: »
    In my opinion slimecraw will be new meta. Since monsterhelmet can´t crit anymore the 8% extra damage will compensate nicely (already does to be honest)

    to be honest in every good group healer will give you this bonus from combat prayer, 100% uptime will be hard but his uptime will be enough to just *** this set

    I'm talking PvP not pve plus even as a nb I'd rather have piercing mark and siphoning attacks only 5 attacks per bar sucks )slotted( plus in ww form minor beserk isn't available for me personally)
    But for other classes who can't do this in PvP I'm guessing would be awesome especially after they nerf proc sets(thank you zenimax)

    also as for pvp...I dont see to much this set...only 8% isnt to much at all while you can have additional 5-10k damage burst per few seconds
    Edited by Edziu on February 3, 2017 10:55AM
  • IlCanis_LupuslI
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    Post nerf!!!! I doubt I can hit a target with a 10k velindreth hit while it doesn't.crit its more like 6k then if it actually hits which in most cases unless your.fighting a noob does not. Plus while proc sets have a cool down this has not
    Edited by IlCanis_LupuslI on February 3, 2017 11:11AM
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  • DurzoBlint13
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    If you back-bar a Resto, Combat Prayer does the same thing as Slimecraw
    Post nerf I'm imagining magplar, magsorc, stamplar and stamsorc could use/ this set

    on your Mag-plar and Mag-sorc just use Combat Prayer....that way you even give the buff to anyone standing ion front of you when you activate it too. In group content the healer should be running that at all times anyway
  • Edziu
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    Post nerf!!!! I doubt I can hit a target with a 10k velindreth hit while it doesn't.crit its more like 6k then if it actually hits which in most cases unless your.fighting a noob does not. Plus while proc sets have a cool down this has not

    as I wrote this 8% is very small on pvp, so what do you want? wanna get your surpise attack hit increase from 6k to maybe 6.5k hit? I dont see to much difference to deal additional 500 damage per skill while every 4-8 seconds I can get additional burst hit for this 5-7k which already can finish my targtet or down him enough to use finisher on him to just finish him
    Edited by Edziu on February 3, 2017 11:22AM
  • IlCanis_LupuslI
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    Edziu wrote: »
    Post nerf!!!! I doubt I can hit a target with a 10k velindreth hit while it doesn't.crit its more like 6k then if it actually hits which in most cases unless your.fighting a noob does not. Plus while proc sets have a cool down this has not

    as I wrote this 8% is very small on pvp, so what do you want? wanna get your surpise attack hit increase from 6k to maybe 6.5k hit? I dont see to much difference to deal additional 500 damage per skill while every 4-8 seconds I can get additional burst hit for this 5-7k which already can finish my targtet or down him enough to use finisher on him to just finish him

    I'm talking about after they nerf proc sets, everyone knows proc sets are OP now
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  • IlCanis_LupuslI
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    If you back-bar a Resto, Combat Prayer does the same thing as Slimecraw
    Post nerf I'm imagining magplar, magsorc, stamplar and stamsorc could use/ this set

    on your Mag-plar and Mag-sorc just use Combat Prayer....that way you even give the buff to anyone standing ion front of you when you activate it too. In group content the healer should be running that at all times anyway
    If you back-bar a Resto, Combat Prayer does the same thing as Slimecraw
    Post nerf I'm imagining magplar, magsorc, stamplar and stamsorc could use/ this set

    on your Mag-plar and Mag-sorc just use Combat Prayer....that way you even give the buff to anyone standing ion front of you when you activate it too. In group content the healer should be running that at all times anyway

    I'm talking about PvP and there i never see magical builds switching to their rersto bar every 8 secs lol
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  • Beardimus
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  • Edziu
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    Edziu wrote: »
    Post nerf!!!! I doubt I can hit a target with a 10k velindreth hit while it doesn't.crit its more like 6k then if it actually hits which in most cases unless your.fighting a noob does not. Plus while proc sets have a cool down this has not

    as I wrote this 8% is very small on pvp, so what do you want? wanna get your surpise attack hit increase from 6k to maybe 6.5k hit? I dont see to much difference to deal additional 500 damage per skill while every 4-8 seconds I can get additional burst hit for this 5-7k which already can finish my targtet or down him enough to use finisher on him to just finish him

    I'm talking about after they nerf proc sets, everyone knows proc sets are OP now

    I also, also without crits, proc set will hit for 5-6k and I will prefet to use this to burst insted of cery small amount increase overall damage which will dont make to much difference while proc for 5k can make big difference in forcing someone to instantly go to defense etc with good combo or allowing you to faster use your finishers etc
  • IlCanis_LupuslI
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    Personal preference I guess. In used to bol Templars in reactive and transmutation and dks in heavy where u literally have to grind them down bursts don't work due to resistances
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  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    Dracane wrote: »
    It feels bad using it. Because you know, that Nightblades can get this bonus for free, by slotting grim focus.
    I think its underrestimated, but any other set deals more damage in the end.

    Yup, Sorcs are still better with lots of magicka and spell damage....
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  • Enslaved
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    Burst damage will always be what tons of sNB and sDK carry into battle. sNB because they live off burst, sDK because they have zero burst skills. So, no matter how much crocodile head looks cool, I don't see it as meta, as long as damage boost it provides is tied to minor brutality. If by any chance that 8% becomes independent, and stackable with minor brutality, it might find its rightful place among PvP meta builds.
  • psychotic13
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    It can be ok on some builds, but I tend to use combat prayer if I want the minor berserk
  • leepalmer95
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    It's amazing on every class apart from nb's in pvp.

    8% dmg boost is a lot.
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  • DurzoBlint13
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    If you back-bar a Resto, Combat Prayer does the same thing as Slimecraw
    Post nerf I'm imagining magplar, magsorc, stamplar and stamsorc could use/ this set

    on your Mag-plar and Mag-sorc just use Combat Prayer....that way you even give the buff to anyone standing ion front of you when you activate it too. In group content the healer should be running that at all times anyway
    If you back-bar a Resto, Combat Prayer does the same thing as Slimecraw
    Post nerf I'm imagining magplar, magsorc, stamplar and stamsorc could use/ this set

    on your Mag-plar and Mag-sorc just use Combat Prayer....that way you even give the buff to anyone standing ion front of you when you activate it too. In group content the healer should be running that at all times anyway

    I'm talking about PvP and there i never see magical builds switching to their rersto bar every 8 secs lol

    you don't have healers in the group? Our healers always keep Combat Prayer going
  • Strider_Roshin
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    Dracane wrote: »
    It feels bad using it. Because you know, that Nightblades can get this bonus for free, by slotting grim focus.
    I think its underrestimated, but any other set deals more damage in the end.

    We don't get it for free, we have to cast an ability for it. Personally I'd rather have a passive that increases my damage by 5%, and get that extra 8% on top of it. You know, like a sorc ;-)
  • Danksta
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    Burst damage will always be what tons of sNB and sDK carry into battle. sNB because they live off burst, sDK because they have zero burst skills. So, no matter how much crocodile head looks cool, I don't see it as meta, as long as damage boost it provides is tied to minor brutality. If by any chance that 8% becomes independent, and stackable with minor brutality, it might find its rightful place among PvP meta builds.

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  • Malamar1229
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    For my setup (ww build) recently discovered this monster set. It's awesome for classes who can't get minor brutality from a class ability.
    Basically 60 % damage increase compared to double kina without the 30% cost increase. Why don't i see more people running it in PvP??? I'd imagine its good for Templars or sorcs even thou the first peace bonus does suck a bit....

    A lot do run it.........
  • The_Duke
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    Jack Daniel swears by it on his templar builds. I think 1 kena and 1 krags is better for PVP. The extra 8% doesn't seem to be that overwhelming compared to staking weapon damage. Slimeclaw doesnt affect heals unless you are using puncturing sweeps or a magblade.

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