Serious crafting is not possible without crafting bag.

^ What he said about crafting bag.

Crafting bag is worth it on it's own

I'm not actually sure how I feel yet, and I don't currently have to decide until late march. But it has definitely been devalued.

It's a simple concept but it's a monthly decision or quarterly for some.

You buy cause of the immediate benefits to you and only you.

I don't agree with these ideas that ppl say they're doing for support....that's not what it's about

$180 a year for an in game crafting bag...smh.

Ahnastashia wrote: »

Your poll is biased. There needs to be an option that the subscription is worth the cost even with not having access to Chapters unless you buy them.

I won't argue the point. My poll is unfinished since I accidentally hit 'Enter' before finishing my second option . No doubt there will be more, and better, polls to come since it is early times with this new model.

Due to crafting bag.

Yes, it is for me.

I love the crafting bag. I still value the extra experience gained. And just recently, I had enough crowns to buy all the assistants, which I find invaluable. So I plan on keeping my sub.

I also find value in supporting the company that is continually bringing forth great content. I think that by going with the 6-month sub, you're only paying $12-15 a month. That's like my netflix sub, and also my monthly support of National Public Radio.

I'm only voting Yes because of the crafting bag. If that wasn't part of the deal then I would say "NO". The free crowns are not that big of a deal to me. If I want crowns for something I really want in the crown store, I just go buy them. The other benefits are just "meh". Now they are charging for one of the yearly "DLC's", they should certainly add more to sweeten the pot. Like increase the number of bank slots by 40, or personal inventory for each character by 20, etc.

Maybe? I agree that for a higher level player like you the 10% XP bonus isn't much use (unless you decide to start a new Warden). If you, like me, have already gotten most of your crafting maxed and traits researched, the crafting and inspiration bonuses aren't all that great, either. Double the items in housing (a new benefit) is nice if you're doing stuff with housing, but not really significant otherwise.

The 10% Gold bonus is somewhat significant -- with Housing, gold becomes more valuable.

As far as crowns and DLC - You get 18000 crowns for $156 in addition to that, which compares to 22000 crowns for $160, so you get 4000 fewer crowns for the same price - potentially even more if you factor in crown sales. Counting those crown sales, you could pay for the DLC for the difference between the two, given that average cost of DLC for the year seems to be aiming somewhere between 4000 and 8000 a year. So the DLC & Crowns benefit seems a bit of a wash.

The main non-DLC benefit for long time players, is thus the Craft Bags... but one cannot discount the sheer amount of time and inventory manipulation saved because of them -- it's a pretty big benefit, IMHO.

So right now, I'd say the ESO Plus benefits are still marginally worth it, just because of the Craft Bags.

That said, they do have a tendency to slowly add new perks to ESO Plus, so I wouldn't be surprised if some new ESO Plus benefits are added with each new Chapter as a means of keeping ESO Plus competitive.

I have had ESO+ since I first started playing in August. The only reason I sub is for the craft bag and access to the DLCs. For the price of a one month sub, I can buy an entire second copy of the game and just make alts for storage. Then just keep stacks of the crafting mats I use often on my main account. Most of my crafters are also storage alts, and once recipes and motifs start stacking with the next update, those alts will have tons of room to spare.

So basically, Morrowind + 2nd copy of base game for storage will cost me just a little more than 3 months worth of sub, and then I break even and ZoS starts losing money. I have 6000 crowns saved up to buy the DLCs, and I've barely set foot in any of them, so just the base game will keep me occupied for a long while, let alone this expansion. Once I have my storage account set up, I think it will be a very long time before I have a reason to sub again.

Where's the option for no, it hasn't been worth it since the game went buy-to-play?

I think the answer is highly dependent on which benefits people value most in the subscription.

The experience gain does not help me, since I'm 200+ CP over cap. The crowns are nice, but I rarely see anything of value in the crown store, and I can't use them for 'chapters'. Essentially, the only real value of a sub is the craft bag.

Says it all, really.