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NEW: Warden Class (Let's discuss)
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mb10✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Assuming Nord will be the best race for Warden.
The health recovery, stamina, ice resistance it just seems like the perfect fit.
Not to mention the whole bear as a companion thing.1 -
Xoelarasizerer✭✭✭Stuff I think'd be neat:
Time based wolf or mountain lion ally to attack enemies (physical version of dark shade)
An area DoT involving a swarm under your enemies (area of spiders that snares/weakens?)
Speaking with your butt option for conversations (finally, my Ace Ventura toon is IMMERSIVE!)
Edited by Xoelarasizerer on February 1, 2017 5:10AM1 -
Snowstrider✭✭✭✭✭I dont think they Will be better end game tanks than DKs but i am hoping they are..
We dont know the abilities but
Frost magic could debuff enemies and freeze them maybe? Could be useful for tanks2 -
Faulgor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm completely against it. But it's too late anyway.
Another kindred spirit, hooray.
What baffles me and hasn't fit into any other discussion yet: Why release a class like the Warden with frost magic and bear companions with Vvardenfell of all places? It should have been added with Wrothgar if anything.
It's quite obvious they wanted to add value to the so-called "chapter" and glued the scrapped 5th class from alpha back together, instead of adding a class that actually fits the theme of the new content.
And my biggest concern next to no ability for class change is that this might be another nail in the coffin for spellcrafting.Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
Vivec: Worse, buddy. They're buying it.6 -
Thornen✭✭✭✭✭Lol pet class, I imagine it will be as terrible as sorcerer pets. No thanks Zos I've already moved onto greener pastures.3 -
davey1107✭✭✭✭✭
✭This is my own...not a leak, lol
"Winter's Reach"
Bring down a bolt of ice once per second for four seconds. Each bolt hits the target from a different direction, knocking them in that direction and damaging them for 2400 frost damage.
Morph 1: Winter's Discontent
Converts to a stamina ability. Ice bolts now do physical damage and heal you for 35% of damage done.
Morph 2: Solstice
Each bolt bounces to one additional target, dealing no damage but reducing their speed by 60% for six seconds.0 -
TX12001rwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I will be honest, isn't putting a class which will be involved in PVP behind a paywall making the game Pay too Win? what if the class is overpowered? in my opinion ZOS should add this as part of the base game not have it be behind a paywall.4 -
TX12001rwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
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Your right Bears and Ice have literally nothing to do with Vvardenfell.I'm completely against it. But it's too late anyway.
Another kindred spirit, hooray.
What baffles me and hasn't fit into any other discussion yet: Why release a class like the Warden with frost magic and bear companions with Vvardenfell of all places? It should have been added with Wrothgar if anything.
It's quite obvious they wanted to add value to the so-called "chapter" and glued the scrapped 5th class from alpha back together, instead of adding a class that actually fits the theme of the new content.
And my biggest concern next to no ability for class change is that this might be another nail in the coffin for spellcrafting.
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olsborg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I just hope the Winters Embrace skill tree isnt all AoE, but has a good single target spammable that doesnt need an instant cast procc (crystal fragment). Also hope it has a good class-damage shield.
Please dont let nature magic have a BoL equivalent heal, thats just so cancerous to fight magplars spamming it endlessly.
Summoning tree...just hope they implement pets in a better way the the current useless skill tree of sorcs (Conjuring) The pets AI and survivablity is severely lacking in pvp.
PC EU
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greylox✭✭✭✭✭I'm hoping the class will be viable for all three roles. A tank tree, DPS tree and healing tree. I hope it will be another proper pet class, not just pets as ultimates. Some passives with + damage to frost, make my frost staff feel as powerful as my lightning stave in the hands of my sorc. Even better, I want more stamina morphs of skills. Let this be the spell sword class!PC EU
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*{Smokes-in-the-Shade }* (Mag pet Sorc Argonian, prolific thief, willing participant of the dark arts, gardener of exotic...herbs)
{Lugdum The Mechanist} (Hybrid Orc Templar, collector of ancient Ayleid smoking pipes)
{Rantoul} (Dark Elf Magknight, likes an ale between boss fights, has been known to offer daedric princes out in a fist fight)
{Red, The Wanderer} (Bosmer stam sorc and hunter extraordinaire)
{Shoots-For-Stars} (Argonian Mag pet Sorc Ice mage Healer)
*{Jinny the spark }* (Sassy Imperial Stamplar)
{Crezzi the Drifter} (Magblade khajiit burglar, available for questionable operations)
{Grif the Despised} (StamKnight Tank Nord, Eastmarch Master Drinker and spinner of tall yarns)
{Geraldine Stone-Heart} (High Elf MagSorc Ice Tank, Mystic, practitioner of the ancient arts)
*{Anawinn}* (Stam pet Ward Redguard, Mother to a bear and an unruly Hunger,Librarian, field medic and natures fist)
{*}Mains
{ CP 900+ }
Caretaker of Battle Island (Grand Topal), the holiday destination for the discerning warrior
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Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It would be nice if there was a way to change the bear to other creatures based on race.
I want to have a Dunmer Warden but the bear doesn't seem as thematic as a more Morrowind based creature would be.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."1 -
EvilCroc✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZOS mention frost magic as defensive. So I do not expect high dps skills from winter embrace skill line. There will be ice armor, shields or some CC.0 -
Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I'm completely against it. But it's too late anyway.
Another kindred spirit, hooray.
What baffles me and hasn't fit into any other discussion yet: Why release a class like the Warden with frost magic and bear companions with Vvardenfell of all places? It should have been added with Wrothgar if anything.
It's quite obvious they wanted to add value to the so-called "chapter" and glued the scrapped 5th class from alpha back together, instead of adding a class that actually fits the theme of the new content.
And my biggest concern next to no ability for class change is that this might be another nail in the coffin for spellcrafting.
So you would rather have Wardens from the start and DK released with Morrowind DLC?1 -
Mr_Apollo✭✭✭Quite worried about the almost invicible Bear Ultimate, since one of its morphs is that it respawns as soon as it dies"Am I truly lost? Is this the end of me? Perhaps...just like all stories have a beginning, all of them will have an ending"
~Brelin Geolas
"The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing"
~Lyris Titanborn
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Tinker Knight - Khajiit - DragonKnight
Erenimir - Altmer - Sorcerer
M'zorna - Orc - Sorcerer
Kristof Nordgård - Breton - Templar
PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!0 -
I am incredibly excited for this new class. Its something I have been hoping for, for a very long time. I think its going to be so interesting to see how it plays when we finally get our hands on it!
One thing I do hope we get clarification on is whether we can have a limited time class change, or even better and my preferred option, two new character slots. With 12 slots filled already and a strong attachment to each one, the thought of deleting 2 saddens me.1 -
Faulgor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm completely against it. But it's too late anyway.
Another kindred spirit, hooray.
What baffles me and hasn't fit into any other discussion yet: Why release a class like the Warden with frost magic and bear companions with Vvardenfell of all places? It should have been added with Wrothgar if anything.
It's quite obvious they wanted to add value to the so-called "chapter" and glued the scrapped 5th class from alpha back together, instead of adding a class that actually fits the theme of the new content.
And my biggest concern next to no ability for class change is that this might be another nail in the coffin for spellcrafting.
So you would rather have Wardens from the start and DK released with Morrowind DLC?
Something like that would make more sense, yes.
Ideally I'd prefer no more classes and have spellcrafting instead.Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
Vivec: Worse, buddy. They're buying it.0 -
Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Can't say I'm too keen on another pet class.. Aside from them already trying to push sorc pets more, it means 2/5 classes in game being pet-classes. I think its a bit of overkill. But I guess it depends on how much of an integral part of the class it is.
I don't think I'm too keen on ice-magic either - but it would make certain gear sets a lot more desirable.
Now on to the vid.. It seems to show a class effectively using a 2-handed sword *and* offensive *and* defensive magic.. Now if it pulls that off it would grab my interest!
Edited by Biro123 on February 1, 2017 10:04AMMinalan owes me a beer.
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Minie Mo - Stam/Magblade - DC
Woody Ron - Stamplar - DC
Aidee - Magsorc - DC
Notadorf - Stamsorc - DC
Khattman Doo - Stamblade - Relegated to Crafter, cos AD.0 -
Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I'm completely against it. But it's too late anyway.
Another kindred spirit, hooray.
What baffles me and hasn't fit into any other discussion yet: Why release a class like the Warden with frost magic and bear companions with Vvardenfell of all places? It should have been added with Wrothgar if anything.
It's quite obvious they wanted to add value to the so-called "chapter" and glued the scrapped 5th class from alpha back together, instead of adding a class that actually fits the theme of the new content.
And my biggest concern next to no ability for class change is that this might be another nail in the coffin for spellcrafting.
So you would rather have Wardens from the start and DK released with Morrowind DLC?
Something like that would make more sense, yes.
Ideally I'd prefer no more classes and have spellcrafting instead.
But Warden completed the circle. We have classes based on fire, lightning, now frost, light and darkness. Its perfect.9 -
Horker✭✭✭✭what i know so far, the Bear remains untill killed its an ulti, u can heal it, so u can keep it 24/7 with you..
also the frost storm ultimate seen in the trailer seems kinda powerfull... i hope this class, since its carrying a 2H, brings a change to hybrid like.. build..
Edited by Horker on February 1, 2017 10:26AMROSES ARE RED, VIOLETS ARE BLUE, TRINIMAC IS DEAD, MALACATH IS TRUE0 -
Cronopoly✭✭✭✭✭In every MMO that has introduced a single new class. Like them all in the past, they will be extremely OP for a bit to spur sales of the DLC/Expansion.
If you think otherwise you were really born yesterday.5 -
ZunaRoath✭✭✭✭When I thought of my actual main, I imagined him being close to animals and wilderness and stuff. I choose NB class because there was nothing similar to my idea. Now though... I am going to remake him as Warden
In RP he has a bear, now he will be able to use it in PvE/PvP :DD I can't wait.
I can only hope that they are useful as being tanks/DPS/Healers, if you know what I mean.[EU-EP-PC] @Kynes_Peace
Hjalmar Bear-Heart - Main, Stamina Warden
Svari Wild-Hawk - Magicka Nightblade
Hulda the Wild - Stamina Warden
Greg the Witchman - Magicka Necromancer
Cassius Gallus - Stamina Sorcerer
Nari War-Shield - Magicka Templar Healer
Hronvir Winter-Winds - Tank Warden
Zuna Ice-Bear - Stamina DK0 -
KniteShayd✭✭Chances are, the pet lines are DPS.
In PvP, kill the Pet, player's less of a threat.
Am guessing that the bear revive morph is so the bear can auto-vive so you don't have to keep recasting, u unlike the clanfear pet. Should work exactly like the Werewolf ultimate's dumbfire pets.
I believe Ice Wall will be a big boon to tanking pve.
I expect Frost Pillar to be a knock back.
I expect there to be a recolored Encase ability.
I expect a dumbfire pet line, like NB Shadow Image, but with animals.
I imagine root snares like NB Cripple ability.
I expect there'll be a summon tree ability like Blood Alter, but have a bigger HoT.
Those are my guesses, Since some Classes abosrbed Warden Abilities at release & after Alpha Testing.Edited by KniteShayd on February 1, 2017 11:43AM0 -
Jitterbug✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'm imagining
A skill line for pets (support)
A skill line for nature (healing)
A skill line for frost (tanking)
And I'm sure it will start out with some pretty OP skills (this is the tradition for new classes in mmos), but I have a feeling it will be more in terms of survivability than damage.
I'm actually pretty excited for this. I loved my druid healer in WoW and my chloromancer in Rift.
I have however never been a fan of pets in any game so I hope there's a viable way to spec without using pets.1 -
DreadKnight✭✭✭✭What other abilities do you all think we will see from this new class?
The bear ultimate seems cool. I have visions of Cyrodiil being filled with bears though lol. Ice powers seem cool too. Ice magic is quite underrated and we don't see much. Well I don't.
Cyrodiil + LAG = it ain't going to be pretty.
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Gandrhulf_Harbard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Magika Warden: Just a different set of skills to use before your destro ult
Stamina Warden: Just a different set of skills to use before the magika warden kills you with destro ult
GG
Ok, I lost it.
LOL'd so loud had the family wondering if I was going mad.
All The BestThose memories come back to haunt me, they haunt me like a curse.
Is a dream a lie if it don't come true, or is it something worse.0 -
Gandrhulf_Harbard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭In every MMO that has introduced a single new class. Like them all in the past, they will be extremely OP for a bit to spur sales of the DLC/Expansion.
If you think otherwise you were really born yesterday.
True.
But I intend to enjoy that OP-ness while it lasts.
TBH, I'd play Warden even if it was the most UP class in the game - that hole style and feel of it is what I have been looking for in ESO since day 1.
All The BestThose memories come back to haunt me, they haunt me like a curse.
Is a dream a lie if it don't come true, or is it something worse.2
