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A Kick In the Face and A Smack to Old Players...
sirston
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New Expansion New Problems.....UGH
Let's just start here......
This seems like an issue some of us have and others Don't. Kinda like people who like regular milk or Chocolate milk, too different sides but basicly the same thing. That is!! what Zenimax does or doesn't do. I feel kinda belittled by ZOS at the current moment for a few reasons.
Beginning Facts- No Honestly What's So Ever
The fact that they just seem not to give two hoots about their personal image. You sell the game 2 years ago for $60+ I personally bought it for $75 Imperial with black flag combo from Ubisoft, good deal. But I lost some of my features down the road That I bought. "Convert World Items or drops to Imperial Style." Gone. Exclusive starting with any race any alliance? Gone. What's stopping ZOS from doing the same with this new set exclusive? Nothing. They Don't see a problem with it. The problem is to lie then change their minds Later Down the road.
On the Personal Image. Zos talks about new transparencies with Patch Notes and Being honest with the Community and being upfront with the changes. But When I wrote to ZOS about this issue when and why I canceled my Sub a few Months ago..
My Telling
Their Response.
Then telling me Sirston, that you're Not trying to deceive me? You sure Play a good puppet Pytr.
Now, I do post on the forums Regularly and Know the TOS and yeta, yeta ,yeta, They Don't need to be the clean honest Image or Working Order But this is different. Way Different...
Secondary Facts-Rehashing Old Content and banking out on it.
Now I won't be mad at ZOS at using old plant models, and dwemer ruins or monster skins. But when you use content that was coming out for the base game 3 years ago? then using it for a big $40 expansion? GTFO that's scumbag millionaire model.
The Warden Class? that was in the base game this whole time and never talked about.
Then PVP battlegrounds! Holy crap, you want to talk about scumbag? when the community ask for that alone for 1 year and 6 months and hype it up in all your dump ESO lives. Then Talk about it like it's some abstract thing on the forums while everyone is asking just for that alone. And was showen at Quakecon? all of a sudden has a paywall around it? Straight from the Bank of America and AT&T Model Of being Cheap. This Kind of stuff makes Good and Bad MMO'S die. Pretty Dang Quick that's EA Low......Maybe lowe.
Warden Class Back in Old school days.
The disappointment is real I hope No one buys the DLC and see's at least the truth.
Conclusion for Lazy's. ZOS is being Lazy.
Edited by sirston on February 1, 2017 4:01AM Let's just start here......
This seems like an issue some of us have and others Don't. Kinda like people who like regular milk or Chocolate milk, too different sides but basicly the same thing. That is!! what Zenimax does or doesn't do. I feel kinda belittled by ZOS at the current moment for a few reasons.
Beginning Facts- No Honestly What's So Ever
The fact that they just seem not to give two hoots about their personal image. You sell the game 2 years ago for $60+ I personally bought it for $75 Imperial with black flag combo from Ubisoft, good deal. But I lost some of my features down the road That I bought. "Convert World Items or drops to Imperial Style." Gone. Exclusive starting with any race any alliance? Gone. What's stopping ZOS from doing the same with this new set exclusive? Nothing. They Don't see a problem with it. The problem is to lie then change their minds Later Down the road.
On the Personal Image. Zos talks about new transparencies with Patch Notes and Being honest with the Community and being upfront with the changes. But When I wrote to ZOS about this issue when and why I canceled my Sub a few Months ago..
My Telling
Their Response.
Then telling me Sirston, that you're Not trying to deceive me? You sure Play a good puppet Pytr.
Now, I do post on the forums Regularly and Know the TOS and yeta, yeta ,yeta, They Don't need to be the clean honest Image or Working Order But this is different. Way Different...
Secondary Facts-Rehashing Old Content and banking out on it.
Now I won't be mad at ZOS at using old plant models, and dwemer ruins or monster skins. But when you use content that was coming out for the base game 3 years ago? then using it for a big $40 expansion? GTFO that's scumbag millionaire model.
The Warden Class? that was in the base game this whole time and never talked about.
Then PVP battlegrounds! Holy crap, you want to talk about scumbag? when the community ask for that alone for 1 year and 6 months and hype it up in all your dump ESO lives. Then Talk about it like it's some abstract thing on the forums while everyone is asking just for that alone. And was showen at Quakecon? all of a sudden has a paywall around it? Straight from the Bank of America and AT&T Model Of being Cheap. This Kind of stuff makes Good and Bad MMO'S die. Pretty Dang Quick that's EA Low......Maybe lowe.
Warden Class Back in Old school days.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/143090/suggestion-bringing-back-the-warden-class
http://skyrimfansite.com/so-what-ever-happened-to-the-eso-warden-class/
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Classes
https://youtu.be/cWaq6Pc8drM?t=108
Other Old Content Made It way Back In.
http://skyrimfansite.com/so-what-ever-happened-to-the-eso-warden-class/
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Classes
https://youtu.be/cWaq6Pc8drM?t=108
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-uymRXbFTk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMzrkRluWbUThe disappointment is real I hope No one buys the DLC and see's at least the truth.
Conclusion for Lazy's. ZOS is being Lazy.
Whitestakes Revenge
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Sirston
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SunfireKnight86✭✭✭✭Maybe like... take a breath. Or, you know, a break from manufacturing outrage.0 -
HatchetHaro✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, seriously, I'm already getting more and more sick of ZOS continuing to shaft and milk money out of their loyal playerbase. Unfortunately, ZOS isn't going to do absolutely anything because we all know they're pretty dang incompetent at actual game design and listening to their loyal players.
Don't get me wrong, I bloody love this game, but not necessarily where the company is trying to drag it.Best Argonian NA and I will fight anyone for it
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SydneyGrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I ABSOLUTELY LOVE that they're re-creating Morrowind as a place that we can go to in ESO. That's not "rehashing old content." That's re-creating something wonderful for us, that people like me very much appreciate. Morrowind was my first Bethesda game, and I CAN'T WAIT for this expansion.
The quests will be 100% different, for one thing.Edited by SydneyGrey on February 1, 2017 4:15AM1 -
SunfireKnight86✭✭✭✭HatchetHaro wrote: »Yes, seriously, I'm already getting more and more sick of ZOS continuing to shaft and milk money out of their loyal playerbase.
From the crates, houses and cosmetics you don't have to buy, or from the open access you get to everything else for a small monthly fee. Yes, they're monsters. /s0 -
KochDerDamonen✭✭✭✭✭
✭The bit about "exclusives", I won't really comment on. It is absolutely common in the industry for the invisible word "timed" to be assumed behind exclusive, especially on pre-order bonuses and such.
But uhh, yes, the content that was promised 3 years ago while the game required a sub, is not being sold to us for money while the game does not require a sub.Edited by KochDerDamonen on February 1, 2017 4:17AMIf you quote someone, and intend for them to see what you have said, be sure to Mention them with @[insert name].1 -
WhiteMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭You got a hand-typed note from a ZOS employee (you can tell because typos) and tbh it seems to me like that person really does care. If nothing else, don't discount that.The generally amicable yet sporadically salty magplar that may or may not have 1vXed you in Sotha Sil. Who knows?3 -
JimT722✭✭✭✭✭
✭I loved Morrowind. I want to be excited for this. I can't be if they don't fix the crashing on the PS4 Pro. They have been answering questions about the expansion but I can't get an answer about the progress on the patch to fix stability? I have been trying to get an answer on this for months. I won't buy an expansion if they can't deliver the promised support for the pro.1 -
sirston✭✭✭✭✭You got a hand-typed note from a ZOS employee (you can tell because typos) and tbh it seems to me like that person really does care. If nothing else, don't discount that.
second image is ZOS first one was me on a Bad night in trueflame.Whitestakes Revenge
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Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭SydneyGrey wrote: »I ABSOLUTELY LOVE that they're re-creating Morrowind as a place that we can go to in ESO. That's not "rehashing old content." That's re-creating something wonderful for us, that people like me very much appreciate. Morrowind was my first Bethesda game, and I CAN'T WAIT for this expansion.
The quests will be 100% different, for one thing.
He's saying that these areas were already built in 2014 . We are getting it just now . An many of us know they've been sitting on this stuff and not showing anything really new to those paying attention since 2014 . They've tapped into the emotion of players about Marrowind so nobody would bother with the change to how DLC and subscriptions operate .
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sirston✭✭✭✭✭SunfireKnight86 wrote: »HatchetHaro wrote: »Yes, seriously, I'm already getting more and more sick of ZOS continuing to shaft and milk money out of their loyal playerbase.
From the crates, houses and cosmetics you don't have to buy, or from the open access you get to everything else for a small monthly fee. Yes, they're monsters. /s
you sure? when I subbed I wasn't subbing for crowns But I was forced to Buy crowns..Or when you buy the upgrade your forced to buy crown crates included?Whitestakes Revenge
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Cadbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I miss the good old days of hating your fellow players. Now we focus that on the devs.
I feel like Cindy Lou Who up in here. Where are you Christmas, indeed :'("If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."2 -
Messy1✭✭✭✭✭
✭Okay, I've had enough with people bad mouthing this most recent expansion roll out. ESO is a business. If we want to talk about how the business model has ruined gaming go ahead, but in the meantime the rest of us prime time gamers can enjoy the content. If you want to start making money playing video games instead of paying to play go do counter strike or win some tournament. Good luck!0 -
SunfireKnight86✭✭✭✭SunfireKnight86 wrote: »HatchetHaro wrote: »Yes, seriously, I'm already getting more and more sick of ZOS continuing to shaft and milk money out of their loyal playerbase.
From the crates, houses and cosmetics you don't have to buy, or from the open access you get to everything else for a small monthly fee. Yes, they're monsters. /s
you sure? when I subbed I wasn't subbing for crowns But I was forced to Buy crowns..Or when you buy the upgrade your forced to buy crown crates included?
What are you babbling about. You literally never have to buy crowns or crates. They're just a sub bonus. Have a little self control.0 -
sirston✭✭✭✭✭SunfireKnight86 wrote: »SunfireKnight86 wrote: »HatchetHaro wrote: »Yes, seriously, I'm already getting more and more sick of ZOS continuing to shaft and milk money out of their loyal playerbase.
From the crates, houses and cosmetics you don't have to buy, or from the open access you get to everything else for a small monthly fee. Yes, they're monsters. /s
you sure? when I subbed I wasn't subbing for crowns But I was forced to Buy crowns..Or when you buy the upgrade your forced to buy crown crates included?
What are you babbling about. You literally never have to buy crowns or crates. They're just a sub bonus.Have a little self control.
keep telling yourself that.Whitestakes Revenge
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SydneyGrey✭✭✭✭✭
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Aaahhhh ....Rohamad_Ali wrote: »He's saying that these areas were already built in 2014 . We are getting it just now .
Reminds me of something EA did with Sims 4. When they were advertising the base game, they advertised that our Sims would be able to play basketball in the game. When it released, there was no basketball. Two years later, they came out with basketball separately in one of the DLCs for an additional price.
Edited by SydneyGrey on February 1, 2017 4:33AM1 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭SydneyGrey wrote: »
Aaahhhh ....Rohamad_Ali wrote: »He's saying that these areas were already built in 2014 . We are getting it just now .
Reminds me of something EA did with Sims 4. When they were advertising the base game, they advertised that our Sims would be able to play basketball in the game. When it released, there was no basketball. Two years later, they came out with basketball separately in one of the DLCs for an additional price.
That's a good example .1 -
vyndral13preub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Okay, I've had enough with people bad mouthing this most recent expansion roll out. ESO is a business. If we want to talk about how the business model has ruined gaming go ahead, but in the meantime the rest of us prime time gamers can enjoy the content. If you want to start making money playing video games instead of paying to play go do counter strike or win some tournament. Good luck!
Who is bad mouthing anyone? We are all happy to finally get two to three year old content.3 -
Solid_Metal✭✭✭✭✭theres something i wanna ask you tho....
do you have any sources that tell if vvenderfell even release when P2P days it will be free?, as we know it, hell it probably will be the same expansion as right now
all those video that you put are considered DLC, and till now and hopefully the future, they are keep their promise, back then when P2P all the DLC will be free update, but now with B2P model, all DLC are accessible as long as you keep ESO+ which esentially is subscription
i don't know what are you complaining about"i will walk through the fog, as i welcome death"0 -
SunfireKnight86✭✭✭✭SunfireKnight86 wrote: »SunfireKnight86 wrote: »HatchetHaro wrote: »Yes, seriously, I'm already getting more and more sick of ZOS continuing to shaft and milk money out of their loyal playerbase.
From the crates, houses and cosmetics you don't have to buy, or from the open access you get to everything else for a small monthly fee. Yes, they're monsters. /s
you sure? when I subbed I wasn't subbing for crowns But I was forced to Buy crowns..Or when you buy the upgrade your forced to buy crown crates included?
What are you babbling about. You literally never have to buy crowns or crates. They're just a sub bonus.Have a little self control.
keep telling yourself that.
Uhh. I will. I'll also keep rolling around in all the crowns I have since I've been subbing for a while now. Like, since early access.0 -
Stovahkiin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Boo frickity hoo, I'm really getting rather tired of seeing SO MANY threads that just have people crying over the same things. "Wah, I don't like the new content simply because it doesn't look cool to me." Or, "Wah, I can't believe Zeni expects us to pay for a ton of new content that they clearly put a lot of work into". Need I go on? It's just a bloody game for crying out loud; it's meant for you to enjoy and pay for.Edited by Stovahkiin on February 1, 2017 5:39AMBeware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!0
