What is it with ZOS and forcing pets on us???

S1ipperyJim · January 2017

Everyone knows ZOS is constantly focussing on tweaking pets so players use them even though most of the time they are super lame, now we have a new class whose main feature which is apparently an ulti is...wait for it...a pet. Why ZOS, why? Couldn't you at least move the pet skill tree from sorc over to Warden and make them a dedicated pet class so sorcs can have a useful third skill tree?

austinwalter87ub17_ESO · January 2017

The bear will be part of one skill line. And since it is an ultimate you will not be forced to use it. 2 other class skill lines to use for an ulti.

Olern · January 2017

Force? You DO know you don't have to play that class, right?

Sigtric · January 2017

Tell me which ZOS employee is holding a gun to your head forcing you to use it, and I'll have a word with them.

OtarTheMad · January 2017

Olern wrote: »

Force? You DO know you don't have to play that class, right?

^ This.

We don't even know what the Warden class is about in terms of other skills and ultimates.

AlMcFly · January 2017

reapthetempestrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Everyone knows ZOS is constantly focussing on tweaking pets so players use them even though most of the time they are super lame, now we have a new class whose main feature which is apparently an ulti is...wait for it...a pet. Why ZOS, why? Couldn't you at least move the pet skill tree from sorc over to Warden and make them a dedicated pet class so sorcs can have a useful third skill tree?

There's that word again, "force". I think ZOS is forgetting the fact that they are playing a videogame that belongs to you...and not the other way around. /s

Cadbury · January 2017

ZOS is in cahoots with the ASPCA, obviously.

redspecter23 · January 2017

My research shows that about 50% of all active accounts have never activated a pet so I'm not sure why they'd think that any player would ever want more of them.

Evergnar · January 2017

reapthetempestrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Everyone knows ZOS is constantly focussing on tweaking pets so players use them even though most of the time they are super lame, now we have a new class whose main feature which is apparently an ulti is...wait for it...a pet. Why ZOS, why? Couldn't you at least move the pet skill tree from sorc over to Warden and make them a dedicated pet class so sorcs can have a useful third skill tree?

I completely agree with ya and said long ago they should have removed pets from sorcs (to mages guild tree) but Zos likes them because zero skill is involved. It's one reason why you see many new players picking sorc as their first character.

austinwalter87ub17_ESO · January 2017

I play a pet sorc frequently. And they're quite good.

hamgatan · January 2017

Because Rule 34.

Tryxus · January 2017

Warden says: "If you don't like it, you can bear off!"

S1ipperyJim · January 2017

austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »

I play a pet sorc frequently. And they're quite good.

I have seen some very good sorc pet builds to be fair, but the fact remains ZOS have a clear pro-pet agenda which they are insidiously imposing on the innocent citizens of Tamriel

S1ipperyJim · January 2017

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Olern wrote: »

Force? You DO know you don't have to play that class, right?

^ This.

We don't even know what the Warden class is about in terms of other skills and ultimates.

We do know it will be nature based stuff. Yuck.

austinwalter87ub17_ESO · January 2017

reapthetempestrwb17_ESO wrote: »

austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »

I play a pet sorc frequently. And they're quite good.

I have seen some very good sorc pet builds to be fair, but the fact remains ZOS have a clear pro-pet agenda which they are insidiously imposing on the innocent citizens of Tamriel

I think it has more to do with the fact that conjuring, pets, and companions have always been lore friendly in the ES franchise

Tommy_The_Gun · January 2017

Olern wrote: »

Force? You DO know you don't have to play that class, right?

We will see. I just hope this new class will be balanced (and not OP). Otherwise it will be a "must have" class for PvP.
So.. If it will be OP, and If you are PvP player - then yes - it is some sort of "forcing".

starkerealm · January 2017

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Olern wrote: »

Force? You DO know you don't have to play that class, right?

^ This.

We don't even know what the Warden class is about in terms of other skills and ultimates.

Pet tree, frost tree, heal tree. So... like a sorc dipped in green jello and left at the back of the fridge.

Cpt_Teemo · January 2017

Olern wrote: »

Force? You DO know you don't have to play that class, right?

wtf who wouldn't want a freaking bear to follow them everywhere its awsome lol

Yolokin_Swagonborn · January 2017

redspecter23 wrote: »

My research shows that about 50% of all active accounts have never activated a pet so I'm not sure why they'd think that any player would ever want more of them.

But you don't do stats the way ZOS does stats.

ZOS counts every sorcerer class that has ever unlocked a pet in order to advance the Daedric Summoning Skill line as a pet user.

If you are Daedric Summoning lvl 50, you must be a pet user. That is how ZOS does stats.

ArchMikem · February 2017

Lol, force.

S1ipperyJim · February 2017

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

Olern wrote: »

Force? You DO know you don't have to play that class, right?

wtf who wouldn't want a freaking bear to follow them everywhere its awsome lol

You mean another freaking bear in addition to my bear cub pet who runs alongside me while I ride my bear mount?

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/63450983.jpg

OtarTheMad · February 2017

reapthetempestrwb17_ESO wrote: »

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Olern wrote: »

Force? You DO know you don't have to play that class, right?

^ This.

We don't even know what the Warden class is about in terms of other skills and ultimates.

We do know it will be nature based stuff. Yuck.

I am still excited about it, it's something different and a style of magic not really touched by ES lore yet (to my knowledge).

starkerealm wrote: »

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Olern wrote: »

Force? You DO know you don't have to play that class, right?

^ This.

We don't even know what the Warden class is about in terms of other skills and ultimates.

Pet tree, frost tree, heal tree. So... like a sorc dipped in green jello and left at the back of the fridge.

lol, mold never hurt anyone... then again maybe that's a bad thing in this case?

Gothren · February 2017

reapthetempestrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Everyone knows ZOS is constantly focussing on tweaking pets so players use them even though most of the time they are super lame, now we have a new class whose main feature which is apparently an ulti is...wait for it...a pet. Why ZOS, why? Couldn't you at least move the pet skill tree from sorc over to Warden and make them a dedicated pet class so sorcs can have a useful third skill tree?

oh god another whiny post about how ENTITLED you are. what he is really is saying is please nerf X skills that needed balancing so I can win. too lazy to L2P. its not like you can't kill them or anything. WHOA imagaine that actually using so form of skill in this game. holy crap thats just so crazy

S1ipperyJim · February 2017

Gothren wrote: »

reapthetempestrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Everyone knows ZOS is constantly focussing on tweaking pets so players use them even though most of the time they are super lame, now we have a new class whose main feature which is apparently an ulti is...wait for it...a pet. Why ZOS, why? Couldn't you at least move the pet skill tree from sorc over to Warden and make them a dedicated pet class so sorcs can have a useful third skill tree?

oh god another whiny post about how ENTITLED you are. what he is really is saying is please nerf X skills that needed balancing so I can win. too lazy to L2P

Whining about whining. I like your meta irony.

Unless of course, you're being serious? If so, pets need buffing not nerfing, currently they are weak sauce and only appeal to the inner cat lady in all of us.

Gothren · February 2017

reapthetempestrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Gothren wrote: »

reapthetempestrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Everyone knows ZOS is constantly focussing on tweaking pets so players use them even though most of the time they are super lame, now we have a new class whose main feature which is apparently an ulti is...wait for it...a pet. Why ZOS, why? Couldn't you at least move the pet skill tree from sorc over to Warden and make them a dedicated pet class so sorcs can have a useful third skill tree?

oh god another whiny post about how ENTITLED you are. what he is really is saying is please nerf X skills that needed balancing so I can win. too lazy to L2P

Whining about whining. I like your meta irony.

Unless of course, you're being serious? If so, pets need buffing not nerfing, currently they are weak sauce and only appeal to the inner cat lady in all of us.

they are actually almost balanced. very close to actually. a few more changes and then it will be balanced

Mojmir · February 2017

Before warden they didn't have enough pet classes,I just think they were in the wrong class.

S1ipperyJim · February 2017

Mojmir wrote: »

Before warden they didn't have enough pet classes,I just think they were in the wrong class.

I personally think they should give the Game Warden the pet skill line from Sorcs and give the Frost skill line to Sr

Dawnblade · February 2017

Let's see if they add any kind of pet controls and / or a pet frame to the UI to allow for true pet management, if so, it could be great...

...if not and we have to rely on the derpy AI with no way to even see our pets health then I think I'll pass (and no using a pet isn't 'forced'), just like I do with sorc pets.

srfrogg23 · February 2017

Eh... I'm going to give this one a 3/10.

I really don't feel sufficiently trolled by this thread.

SirAndy · February 2017

reapthetempestrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Everyone knows ZOS is constantly focussing on tweaking pets so players use them even though most of the time they are super lame, now we have a new class whose main feature which is apparently an ulti is...wait for it...a pet. Why ZOS, why? Couldn't you at least move the pet skill tree from sorc over to Warden and make them a dedicated pet class so sorcs can have a useful third skill tree?

The old warden class from the early beta was pet heavy and i'm glad to see it come back.

I just hope they fixed all the bugs that made it pretty much unplayable back then ...

Tryxus · February 2017

SirAndy wrote: »

reapthetempestrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Everyone knows ZOS is constantly focussing on tweaking pets so players use them even though most of the time they are super lame, now we have a new class whose main feature which is apparently an ulti is...wait for it...a pet. Why ZOS, why? Couldn't you at least move the pet skill tree from sorc over to Warden and make them a dedicated pet class so sorcs can have a useful third skill tree?

The old warden class from the early beta was pet heavy and i'm glad to see it come back.

I just hope they fixed all the bugs that made it pretty much unplayable back then ...

They should, they've had 3 years to do so...

Then again,...