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Cash grabs and the decline of ESO
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✭✭✭✭✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »@MythicEmperor
tl;dr
what is the point of complaining about crown prices of items if you do not have to buy them. It is purely voluntary. It is a choice and you can choose to not do so.
Creating a thread about it is even less pointless.
And it makes your reply... pointlessGiles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »@MythicEmperor
tl;dr
what is the point of complaining about crown prices of items if you do not have to buy them. It is purely voluntary. It is a choice and you can choose to not do so.
Creating a thread about it is even less pointless.
And it makes your reply... pointless
@Sigtric
LOL. nope, just goes to show some people do not understand business. They want to get paid, but hate having to pay. Entitlement kinda figures into this for those complaining about the crown store. LOL
It went right over your head but that's fine.
What's the point of replying to pointless threads if you don't have to reply to them?
Let me take a stab at it... You want to share your opinion on the matter and it validates your reason for posting it?
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Spottswoode✭✭✭✭✭I love how everybody is defending ZoS greed. You already purchased the game to play it, that's supporting it enough.
Oh and please stop acting like ZoS is only doing this to keep the lights on. This isn't a Kickstarter funded game or company. Their parent company Zenimax Media Inc. whom created a small subsidiary consisting of around 300 employees called Zenimax Online Studios in 2007 solely to develop ESO and only ESO.
Zenimax Media Inc. is valued at 2.6 Billion USD. I love how the Dro-m'Artha is up in the crown store three days after they hotfixed the trial Lol.
Uhh...no. They're likely doing it to keep their jobs. Parent companies shut down projects that aren't worth the investment. If you think Zenimax won't shut down ZOS for lack of profits, you clearly overestimate their parent company's willingness to sink money into bad projects.
Walmart has more than enough money to keep all of it's stores open but it shuts the ones down that don't make enough profit. You've got it backwards. If they get shut down, they're not going to get shutdown because they don't have enough money. They're going to get shut down because they don't make enough profit for the parent company.Proud Player of The Elder Bank Screen Online.
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✭✭✭✭✭Thealteregoroman wrote: »ugh....
so what ever happened with the whole wanna be an emp thing? did you make it?MythicEmperor wrote: »If a purely cosmetic motif that isn't even as nice as some cheaper crown store motifs is 6k crowns, what will a manor cost? 10k? 20k? They houses are just as useless as the motif. You can't do anything you can't elsewhere.
@MythicEmperor ...i like folks whom push the boundaries...although kinda edgy - i definitely enjoyed your threads concerning "forbidden" lore...i'm hoping you dig your teeth into something a little juicier than the whole crown store "ripoff" topic next time..."there's a sucker born every minute"...we know that - you don't think zos does (and are actually counting on it)...PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place1 -
bubbygink✭✭✭✭✭You already purchased the game to play it, that's supporting it enough.
And what part of the game are you unable to play ? If you purchased the game and DLCs you can play it - all of it. Not being able to afford a crown store mount absolutely does not prevent you from playing any part of the game. But if you purchase the game is Zos supposed to continue to work to give you free updates and cosmetics until the end of time? No. New cosmetics they continue to make will cost money - but you don't have to buy those and can just play the game you purchased if you want. It is your choice.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »@MythicEmperor
tl;dr
what is the point of complaining about crown prices of items if you do not have to buy them. It is purely voluntary. It is a choice and you can choose to not do so.
Creating a thread about it is even less pointless.
And it makes your reply... pointlessGiles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »@MythicEmperor
tl;dr
what is the point of complaining about crown prices of items if you do not have to buy them. It is purely voluntary. It is a choice and you can choose to not do so.
Creating a thread about it is even less pointless.
And it makes your reply... pointless
@Sigtric
LOL. nope, just goes to show some people do not understand business. They want to get paid, but hate having to pay. Entitlement kinda figures into this for those complaining about the crown store. LOL
It went right over your head but that's fine.
What's the point of replying to pointless threads if you don't have to reply to them?
Let me take a stab at it... You want to share your opinion on the matter and it validates your reason for posting it?
@Sigtric
Nope. A for effort.
So, nothing? How boring.
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✭✭✭✭✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »@MythicEmperor
tl;dr
what is the point of complaining about crown prices of items if you do not have to buy them. It is purely voluntary. It is a choice and you can choose to not do so.
Creating a thread about it is even less pointless.
And it makes your reply... pointlessGiles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »@MythicEmperor
tl;dr
what is the point of complaining about crown prices of items if you do not have to buy them. It is purely voluntary. It is a choice and you can choose to not do so.
Creating a thread about it is even less pointless.
And it makes your reply... pointless
@Sigtric
LOL. nope, just goes to show some people do not understand business. They want to get paid, but hate having to pay. Entitlement kinda figures into this for those complaining about the crown store. LOL
It went right over your head but that's fine.
What's the point of replying to pointless threads if you don't have to reply to them?
Let me take a stab at it... You want to share your opinion on the matter and it validates your reason for posting it?
@Sigtric
Nope. A for effort.
So, nothing? How boring.
@Sigtric
Wrong again. No worries. Probably something not worthy to explain. Thx though for attempting to enlighten me.0 -
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✭✭✭The new high price on crown items is a result of Crown Crates.
By making single items more expensive, it makes the crown crates look more attractive because they look like more of a bargain in comparison.Argonian forever7 -
Spottswoode✭✭✭✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »The new high price on crown items is a result of Crown Crates.
By making single items more expensive, it makes the crown crates look more attractive because they look like more of a bargain in comparison.
I hadn't thought about that. That's probably true.Proud Player of The Elder Bank Screen Online.
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✭✭✭✭andreasranasen wrote: »ZOS could steal a purse from an old lady and you would still have people defending them. Sheep.
I regret falling in love with this game. The developers have clearly showed they do not care about me, or you. They only care about our wallets.
Its not the developers. The Developers have no say in the price of things. Theyre there to make a game that they love. This is on the sales team. The suits that have nothing to do with the game itself besides new ideas on how to pinch the customer for just that little bit more next time.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭andreasranasen wrote: »
As a player, you are the client. You are paying for a service and a product.
Mmmmhhh... not exactly. The customer isn't the one who plays, it's the one who pays. Crown store items aren't a side product that help financing a main product, they ARE the product and the game itself isn't a product anymore, but a mean to sell the product (the crown store items). So are players. You don't become a customer when you play, you become a customer when you sub and/or buy in the crown store.
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as someone more than willing to support the game, and a person who has payed an ongoing sub since launch of the game, I disagree.DRXHarbinger wrote: »Nerf crown store hating. It funds the game.
Buff crown store hate.
ZOS can offer quality cosmetic items for a reasonable price. No cosmetic item should ever exceed or even come close to the base game cost, only additional game content such as DLC with new zones should approach that. This rapidly spiralling out of control pricing for less than stellar items needs to stop.
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✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »andreasranasen wrote: »
As a player, you are the client. You are paying for a service and a product.
Mmmmhhh... not exactly. The customer isn't the one who plays, it's the one who pays. Crown store items aren't a side product that help financing a main product, they ARE the product and the game itself isn't a product anymore, but a mean to sell the product (the crown store items). So are players. You don't become a customer when you play, you become a customer when you sub and/or buy in the crown store.
"you become a customer when you sub and/or buy in the crown store."
Product = The game itself
Service = Sub
Did i miss something here? "As a player, you are the client. You are paying for a service and a product."
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SaRuZ✭✭✭✭✭You already purchased the game to play it, that's supporting it enough.
And what part of the game are you unable to play ? If you purchased the game and DLCs you can play it - all of it. Not being able to afford a crown store mount absolutely does not prevent you from playing any part of the game. But if you purchase the game is Zos supposed to continue to work to give you free updates and cosmetics until the end of time? No. New cosmetics they continue to make will cost money - but you don't have to buy those and can just play the game you purchased if you want. It is your choice.
Yet. Give it another years or two.
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robertthebard✭✭✭✭✭andreasranasen wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »andreasranasen wrote: »
As a player, you are the client. You are paying for a service and a product.
Mmmmhhh... not exactly. The customer isn't the one who plays, it's the one who pays. Crown store items aren't a side product that help financing a main product, they ARE the product and the game itself isn't a product anymore, but a mean to sell the product (the crown store items). So are players. You don't become a customer when you play, you become a customer when you sub and/or buy in the crown store.
"you become a customer when you sub and/or buy in the crown store."
Product = The game itself
Service = Sub
Did i miss something here? "As a player, you are the client. You are paying for a service and a product."
You missed something. You purchase the game once. After that, you're done being a customer there. If you pay a sub to access it, you're now a customer again, but, since you don't need to pay a sub to play after you buy the game, playing doesn't make you a customer. Didn't you say you were a designer, and you don't even know how this works? Buying a Big Mac in 1982 doesn't make you a customer at McDonald's in 2017.
Look at it like this, because quite frankly, this is how it works: I bought Skyrim. Bethesda got paid when I made my purchase of the game, er, both times, since I have it on PC and the 360... Bethesda does not get paid when I play it, and they're not getting paid no matter how many hours I put into it. The same applies here, if I don't have a sub. ZoS isn't getting paid when I log in, if I'm not subbed. Therefore, w/out carrying a sub, I'm not a customer, just a player. A designer should really know this, I'd think, since I'm simply a gamer that's been playing in the industry for 30 years or so, SP included, and I know this.
Service = game.
Product = Crown Store.
You do not buy the game every time you log in. Your sub allows you premium type access to the service.4 -
SaRuZ✭✭✭✭✭Spottswoode wrote: »I love how everybody is defending ZoS greed. You already purchased the game to play it, that's supporting it enough.
Oh and please stop acting like ZoS is only doing this to keep the lights on. This isn't a Kickstarter funded game or company. Their parent company Zenimax Media Inc. whom created a small subsidiary consisting of around 300 employees called Zenimax Online Studios in 2007 solely to develop ESO and only ESO.
Zenimax Media Inc. is valued at 2.6 Billion USD. I love how the Dro-m'Artha is up in the crown store three days after they hotfixed the trial Lol.
Uhh...no. They're likely doing it to keep their jobs. Parent companies shut down projects that aren't worth the investment. If you think Zenimax won't shut down ZOS for lack of profits, you clearly overestimate their parent company's willingness to sink money into bad projects.
Walmart has more than enough money to keep all of it's stores open but it shuts the ones down that don't make enough profit. You've got it backwards. If they get shut down, they're not going to get shutdown because they don't have enough money. They're going to get shut down because they don't make enough profit for the parent company.
Comparing Zenimax Media Inc. to Wal Mart is a very bad example. Wal Mart bases it's shut downs on volume, region & theft. There are thousands of Wal Mart stores. Also one is a retail industry that supplies a variety of perishable & non perishable goods while the other is considered an Art industry in itself. That's like comparing Applebees to Death Row Records. Apples & Oranges.
Also, If they were passionate about their art and about this game they would be pursuing that passion out of love for the game. Am I against items being in the crown store? No. Am I against this game steadily becoming more and more of a Sims wannabe for Cash? Yes.
That being said producing real content(Expansion packs with new zones, classes, questlines) Is a better way to keep their jobs
Keeping players playing. Keeping new players coming in and staying. Keeping population high and content flow to match is the better strategy.
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✭✭✭robertthebard wrote: »andreasranasen wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »andreasranasen wrote: »
As a player, you are the client. You are paying for a service and a product.
Mmmmhhh... not exactly. The customer isn't the one who plays, it's the one who pays. Crown store items aren't a side product that help financing a main product, they ARE the product and the game itself isn't a product anymore, but a mean to sell the product (the crown store items). So are players. You don't become a customer when you play, you become a customer when you sub and/or buy in the crown store.
"you become a customer when you sub and/or buy in the crown store."
Product = The game itself
Service = Sub
Did i miss something here? "As a player, you are the client. You are paying for a service and a product."
You missed something. You purchase the game once. After that, you're done being a customer there. If you pay a sub to access it, you're now a customer again, but, since you don't need to pay a sub to play after you buy the game, playing doesn't make you a customer. Didn't you say you were a designer, and you don't even know how this works? Buying a Big Mac in 1982 doesn't make you a customer at McDonald's in 2017.
Look at it like this, because quite frankly, this is how it works: I bought Skyrim. Bethesda got paid when I made my purchase of the game, er, both times, since I have it on PC and the 360... Bethesda does not get paid when I play it, and they're not getting paid no matter how many hours I put into it. The same applies here, if I don't have a sub. ZoS isn't getting paid when I log in, if I'm not subbed. Therefore, w/out carrying a sub, I'm not a customer, just a player. A designer should really know this, I'd think, since I'm simply a gamer that's been playing in the industry for 30 years or so, SP included, and I know this.
Service = game.
Product = Crown Store.
You do not buy the game every time you log in. Your sub allows you premium type access to the service.
Your comment makes no sense as i was referring to people who owns the game AND pays a sub fee like ESO+. The game is a product you buy once. ESO+ is considered a service you are paying for. As someone who is an ESO+ member i bought a product, and now paying for a monthly service.Edited by andreasranasen on January 27, 2017 1:31AM#VMATOKENSYSTEM #WEAPONDYE #TRAITCHANGE #CROWNCRATELOVER- Alliance/Platform: Aldemerii - PS4/NA - CP 800+
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robertthebard✭✭✭✭✭andreasranasen wrote: »robertthebard wrote: »andreasranasen wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »andreasranasen wrote: »
As a player, you are the client. You are paying for a service and a product.
Mmmmhhh... not exactly. The customer isn't the one who plays, it's the one who pays. Crown store items aren't a side product that help financing a main product, they ARE the product and the game itself isn't a product anymore, but a mean to sell the product (the crown store items). So are players. You don't become a customer when you play, you become a customer when you sub and/or buy in the crown store.
"you become a customer when you sub and/or buy in the crown store."
Product = The game itself
Service = Sub
Did i miss something here? "As a player, you are the client. You are paying for a service and a product."
You missed something. You purchase the game once. After that, you're done being a customer there. If you pay a sub to access it, you're now a customer again, but, since you don't need to pay a sub to play after you buy the game, playing doesn't make you a customer. Didn't you say you were a designer, and you don't even know how this works? Buying a Big Mac in 1982 doesn't make you a customer at McDonald's in 2017.
Look at it like this, because quite frankly, this is how it works: I bought Skyrim. Bethesda got paid when I made my purchase of the game, er, both times, since I have it on PC and the 360... Bethesda does not get paid when I play it, and they're not getting paid no matter how many hours I put into it. The same applies here, if I don't have a sub. ZoS isn't getting paid when I log in, if I'm not subbed. Therefore, w/out carrying a sub, I'm not a customer, just a player. A designer should really know this, I'd think, since I'm simply a gamer that's been playing in the industry for 30 years or so, SP included, and I know this.
Service = game.
Product = Crown Store.
You do not buy the game every time you log in. Your sub allows you premium type access to the service.
Your comment makes no sense as i was referring to people who owns the game AND pays a sub fee like ESO+. The game is a product you buy once. ESO+ is considered a service you are paying for. As someone who is an ESO+ member i bought a product, and now paying for a monthly service.
How much do they charge you each time you log in? Because I paid my 14.99 once, and didn't have to worry about it again. In the olden days, you may have a point, especially in Korea, where they were, or maybe still are, paying by the hour to play, but here, in the West, not so much. The steady stream of income comes from people that are buying from the Crown Store, and, quite frankly, it's like that with any game with micro transactions. The game is a marketing platform for the cash shop.4 -
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✭✭✭robertthebard wrote: »andreasranasen wrote: »robertthebard wrote: »andreasranasen wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »andreasranasen wrote: »
As a player, you are the client. You are paying for a service and a product.
Mmmmhhh... not exactly. The customer isn't the one who plays, it's the one who pays. Crown store items aren't a side product that help financing a main product, they ARE the product and the game itself isn't a product anymore, but a mean to sell the product (the crown store items). So are players. You don't become a customer when you play, you become a customer when you sub and/or buy in the crown store.
"you become a customer when you sub and/or buy in the crown store."
Product = The game itself
Service = Sub
Did i miss something here? "As a player, you are the client. You are paying for a service and a product."
You missed something. You purchase the game once. After that, you're done being a customer there. If you pay a sub to access it, you're now a customer again, but, since you don't need to pay a sub to play after you buy the game, playing doesn't make you a customer. Didn't you say you were a designer, and you don't even know how this works? Buying a Big Mac in 1982 doesn't make you a customer at McDonald's in 2017.
Look at it like this, because quite frankly, this is how it works: I bought Skyrim. Bethesda got paid when I made my purchase of the game, er, both times, since I have it on PC and the 360... Bethesda does not get paid when I play it, and they're not getting paid no matter how many hours I put into it. The same applies here, if I don't have a sub. ZoS isn't getting paid when I log in, if I'm not subbed. Therefore, w/out carrying a sub, I'm not a customer, just a player. A designer should really know this, I'd think, since I'm simply a gamer that's been playing in the industry for 30 years or so, SP included, and I know this.
Service = game.
Product = Crown Store.
You do not buy the game every time you log in. Your sub allows you premium type access to the service.
Your comment makes no sense as i was referring to people who owns the game AND pays a sub fee like ESO+. The game is a product you buy once. ESO+ is considered a service you are paying for. As someone who is an ESO+ member i bought a product, and now paying for a monthly service.
How much do they charge you each time you log in? Because I paid my 14.99 once, and didn't have to worry about it again. In the olden days, you may have a point, especially in Korea, where they were, or maybe still are, paying by the hour to play, but here, in the West, not so much. The steady stream of income comes from people that are buying from the Crown Store, and, quite frankly, it's like that with any game with micro transactions. The game is a marketing platform for the cash shop.
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robertthebard✭✭✭✭✭andreasranasen wrote: »robertthebard wrote: »andreasranasen wrote: »robertthebard wrote: »andreasranasen wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »andreasranasen wrote: »
As a player, you are the client. You are paying for a service and a product.
Mmmmhhh... not exactly. The customer isn't the one who plays, it's the one who pays. Crown store items aren't a side product that help financing a main product, they ARE the product and the game itself isn't a product anymore, but a mean to sell the product (the crown store items). So are players. You don't become a customer when you play, you become a customer when you sub and/or buy in the crown store.
"you become a customer when you sub and/or buy in the crown store."
Product = The game itself
Service = Sub
Did i miss something here? "As a player, you are the client. You are paying for a service and a product."
You missed something. You purchase the game once. After that, you're done being a customer there. If you pay a sub to access it, you're now a customer again, but, since you don't need to pay a sub to play after you buy the game, playing doesn't make you a customer. Didn't you say you were a designer, and you don't even know how this works? Buying a Big Mac in 1982 doesn't make you a customer at McDonald's in 2017.
Look at it like this, because quite frankly, this is how it works: I bought Skyrim. Bethesda got paid when I made my purchase of the game, er, both times, since I have it on PC and the 360... Bethesda does not get paid when I play it, and they're not getting paid no matter how many hours I put into it. The same applies here, if I don't have a sub. ZoS isn't getting paid when I log in, if I'm not subbed. Therefore, w/out carrying a sub, I'm not a customer, just a player. A designer should really know this, I'd think, since I'm simply a gamer that's been playing in the industry for 30 years or so, SP included, and I know this.
Service = game.
Product = Crown Store.
You do not buy the game every time you log in. Your sub allows you premium type access to the service.
Your comment makes no sense as i was referring to people who owns the game AND pays a sub fee like ESO+. The game is a product you buy once. ESO+ is considered a service you are paying for. As someone who is an ESO+ member i bought a product, and now paying for a monthly service.
How much do they charge you each time you log in? Because I paid my 14.99 once, and didn't have to worry about it again. In the olden days, you may have a point, especially in Korea, where they were, or maybe still are, paying by the hour to play, but here, in the West, not so much. The steady stream of income comes from people that are buying from the Crown Store, and, quite frankly, it's like that with any game with micro transactions. The game is a marketing platform for the cash shop.
ESO+ is $14.99/month. Playstation + is $24 every 3 months. The game is not F2P on console.
So your PS sub doesn't cover anything but ESO? You need to switch over to the xbox, xbox live is free, you can pay to go Gold, if you want, but live is free.2 -
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✭Not to deter the point of the thread, but I totally read the title as "Mud Crabs are the Decline of ESO". I read to fast sometimes
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Darkonflare15✭✭✭✭✭/Facepalm another crown store post
Last time I check we have been getting crowns at reduce price from a lot of sales lately. The pricing is really nothing compared not getting sales at all. Looks like there going to be people outrage when the housing prices come out for the crownstore. 1 -
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✭✭✭Motifs = Purely cosmetic.
Sure it looks nice, but it's not a requirement to enjoy the content.
$50-ish for a purely cosmetic item will likely mean very low sales. Silly strategy, even for a cash grab, but whatever.5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I've stopped reguarding this game as a 'game'. It's a RP platform.
The One Tamriel patch made me hate doing the content I once enjoyed because it turned it into a chore. With the ammount of DPS who can do the content in a reasonable ammount of time shorter than ever, and the 'elite' community no longer teaching. With content that once took like, ten minutes and was fun because it didn't outstay it's welcome, now stays and pukes all over the welcome mat. Is the focus on fixing it? No, it's on pricing Dro'mathra for 60 dollars.
Is the focus on content? No, it's on housing which they will milk for crown store bucks. Much like Crowncrates it is a example of how ZOS is crafty at mullifying customers. The majority of houses are for sale with real gold, but few are not, and all are for sale on the crownstore.
I genuinely dont care anymore. I dont have the passion, I dont have the energy. I spend my day playing single player elder scrolls games, astounded at the tonal shfit. No longer does what I'm doing feel forced, like I'm forcing myself to try and enjoy mself. No. I just have fun.
If and when ESO becomes like that again, I'll come back. If they either reduce the health and resistances, or they -make- choice and build diversity a thing enough to where I can enjoy this new hard content, I'll come back. But until it does I'm not giving ZOS another cent.
Edited by Doctordarkspawn on January 27, 2017 3:11AM2 -
Soafee✭✭✭Everything in the Store is optional. You do not need to even pay for the game to play it. They do not require you to buy a sub.
If you're not willing to support a game that you play countless hours than maybe another game would be better for you. You basically say "this is how I see things and if ZOS locks my thread than I'm right!"
Well you have your opinion but you're not 'right'. How do you expect the game to evolve or more content to be made for us if they literally give it away for free? Are you mad because you won't be able to afford it? Ok. Lots of people will and it will make up for it and you can keep doing what you do.Today is a blessing. Yesterday is in the past and tomorrow is a mystery.0 -
Doctordarkspawn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Everything in the Store is optional. You do not need to even pay for the game to play it. They do not require you to buy a sub.
If you're not willing to support a game that you play countless hours than maybe another game would be better for you. You basically say "this is how I see things and if ZOS locks my thread than I'm right!"
Well you have your opinion but you're not 'right'. How do you expect the game to evolve or more content to be made for us if they literally give it away for free? Are you mad because you won't be able to afford it? Ok. Lots of people will and it will make up for it and you can keep doing what you do.
There's giving content away for free, then there's pricing it like a reasonable person.
25 dollars for two dungeons that half the playerbase never does anymore (Shadows of the Hist) wasn't reasonable when it was released. They have shown no inclination of becoming more reasonable.
Hate the OP if you wish but lets not kid ourselves, I doubt ZOS is satisfied with "Support" anymore. The shareholders grow impatient.4
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