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Pulled out of stealth by Poison Injection
Shyfty
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I am just wondering if this is a bug or working as intended. If I apply poison injection to an enemy and then cloak, when the poison injection damage ticks I am immediately pulled out of stealth.
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React✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yep, working as intended.
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GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Konstant_Tel_Necris wrote: »Cloak broke on damage, yes it working as intended.
Pretty sure DoT ticks should not pull you out of cloak, stealth yes but cloak i dont think so.
OP Were you trying to cast Vigor in cloak? Vigor got changed so you could not cast it in stealth.
Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on January 25, 2017 10:38PMPS4 NA DC1 -
Shyfty✭✭✭GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »Konstant_Tel_Necris wrote: »Cloak broke on damage, yes it working as intended.
Pretty sure DoT ticks should not pull you out of cloak, stealth yes but cloak i dont think so.
OP Were you trying to cast Vigor in cloak? Vigor got changed so you could not cast it in stealth.
Nope, simple test poison inject a mammoth then hit cloak, cloak is gone as soon as dot ticks.0 -
Shyfty✭✭✭kyle.wilson wrote: »ZOS made it clear, that is intended.
Thanks for the info, would you happen to have a link to that information?0 -
The_Duke✭✭✭✭Cloak in its current state is useless unless you are a ganker. Its a shame the class defining skill has been nerfed to this level.The Duke
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✭Your own dots shouldn't take you out of stealth. That's not working as intended.PC EU - Ebonheart Pact - Gray Host - Death Recap -#zergfarming -7 -
joshisanonymous✭✭✭✭✭kyle.wilson wrote: »ZOS made it clear, that is intended.
Thanks for the info, would you happen to have a link to that information?
Yeah I'd also like to see what they said. I remember long ago when they "fixed" this because it apparently wasn't intended.0 -
JAwtunes✭✭✭✭This is happening again for me. I am pulled out of sneak and cloak (NB) by my own poison injection tick. I'm only seeing this is PVP (Sotha). might do some more testing but would be good to see if others are experiencing this after the latest patch.0 -
Dalsinthus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Your own dots shouldn't take you out of stealth. That's not working as intended.
It shouldn't break cloak but it should prevent you from going into stealth while the dot is ticking. That's how it works on Xbox currently.
There's a bug with Acid Spray where the dot from spray breaks cloak right now. But PI does not do this.
OP are you on PC and is this with the Wolf Hunter Patch?0 -
JAwtunes✭✭✭✭Dalsinthus wrote: »Your own dots shouldn't take you out of stealth. That's not working as intended.
It shouldn't break cloak but it should prevent you from going into stealth while the dot is ticking. That's how it works on Xbox currently.
There's a bug with Acid Spray where the dot from spray breaks cloak right now. But PI does not do this.
OP are you on PC and is this with the Wolf Hunter Patch?
OP was Jan 2017. I just responded to an old thread that is exactly what I am seeing after the Wolf Hunter Patch. I am on PC and I am only seeing this in Sotha, but havent tried in Vivec due to long wait to get in.1 -
IlCanis_LupuslI✭✭✭✭✭Put triglyphs on all your big pieces and use dark cloak, a reliable defense people can't *** about
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frankwchenzo✭✭It's the weapon enchantment on your bow that Poison Injection proc pulled you out of stealth since enchantment is considered as direct damage, and dealing direct damage ALWAYS pull you out of stealth...
enough to end this discussion?0 -
JAwtunes✭✭✭✭Thanks for responding.
This isn’t related to enchants. This isn’t possible for a number of reasons.
This doesn’t happen to me in PVE or when testing on target dummy.
The problem seems intermittent when hitting players in Cyro.
The problem seems to happen on every mob in Cyro (Vivec and Sotha). I tested on trolls, skeletons, wolves and imperial soldiers at camps.
If the PI tick kills the target then you are not pulled from cloak. If the target is still alive then the tick removes you from cloak. It’s similar to the way the 1s Sload tick worked when applied to a NB last patch. The difference here ofc is that this PI issue isn’t damage being taken, but damage being inflicted so the NB is effectively breaking their own cloak. I have seen this happen with the vicecannon set (I haven’t used this in ages tbh), but only when a DK reflects the damage, which then proceeds to break a NBs cloak on every tick.
It doesn’t happen with the poison status effect or double dot poisons.
I was wondering whether the ticks were being considered direct damage but this doesn’t seem to be the case. Only the initial damage procs an enchant (using infused so reduce cool down for testing). The ticks, quite rightly, still don't proc enchants.
Just wanted to put as much info in as possible, hopefully it will be possible to find a pattern/ condition for this effect to occur.
Honestly in not too fussed, but I does make using PI on my sNB a little hit and miss now. I'm sure most will be happy to see sNB suffer though
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✭✭✭✭✭Heh, well, I’ve been running a Stamblade in BGs this week. It’s been a while since I played a NB, so I was just thinking “man, this cloak is kinda crappy.”
I would be taken out of cloak immediately after casting it, for what I thought seemed like no apparent reason.
Might be related. I cant really test it.0 -
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✭✭✭✭frankwchenzo wrote: »It's the weapon enchantment on your bow that Poison Injection proc pulled you out of stealth since enchantment is considered as direct damage, and dealing direct damage ALWAYS pull you out of stealth...
enough to end this discussion?
Single-target DOTs aren't intended to proc enchantments. Poison Injection's DOT shouldn't be proccing enchantments; if so, that's either a bug or a change ZOS didn't tell us about.7-day PVP campaign regular 2016-2019, Flawless Conqueror. MagDK/stamplar/stamwarden/mageblade. Requiem, Legend, Knights of Daggerfall. Currently retired from the wars; waiting on performance improvements.0
