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NB saptank

AlexDresden87
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I have several questions. 1) What would be the set HP, Magicka and Stamina for this built via attribute points. 2) the physical and spell resistances optimum and/or minimum for tanking 3) and does anyone have a solid build other than the random different forms of builds out there?
  • Ruinhorn
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    I have ~31k of hp, 22k of magicka and 21k of stamina, something like this. As a khajiit it's ~44 points into health and others in stamina. Don't remember exactly.
    In combat I'm getting ~28k of resistance in dungeons. So it's fine for me, and if I'm getting lack of stamina, just use Siphoning Attacks + light attacks. Also, if a healer is templar and he uses shards, you always will have full resourses.
    I have a build almost similar to Gilliam's one. Just have a bit different CP and attributes. Also, I have 2/2 Bloodspawn, 'cause don't have Malubeth. So, it's 2/2 Bloodspawn, 5/5 Bahraha and 5/5 Leeching. Don't like his way to run MSA healing staff on the second bar, and now I'm gonna put one more 1h + shield on 2nd bar (both Bahraha, similar as on the main bar). And replace Rapid Regen with Vigor.

    Anyway, I can't say it's optimal set for now. I've just started to lear how to tank, but have no problems in vDungeons at all. Also, healing yourself and others through the damage is very helpful both for you and healer (especially if the last one isn't very exp or just dead for this moment xD).
    Edited by Ruinhorn on January 21, 2017 4:34PM
  • Xvorg
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    Ruinhorn wrote: »
    I have ~31k of hp, 22k of magicka and 21k of stamina, something like this. As a khajiit it's ~44 points into health and others in stamina. Don't remember exactly.
    In combat I'm getting ~28k of resistance in dungeons. So it's fine for me, and if I'm getting lack of stamina, just use Siphoning Attacks + light attacks. Also, if a healer is templar and he uses shards, you always will have full resourses.
    I have a build almost similar to Gilliam's one. Just have a bit different CP and attributes. Also, I have 2/2 Bloodspawn, 'cause don't have Malubeth. So, it's 2/2 Bloodspawn, 5/5 Bahraha and 5/5 Leeching. Don't like his way to run MSA healing staff on the second bar, and now I'm gonna put one more 1h + shield on 2nd bar (both Bahraha, similar as on the main bar). And replace Rapid Regen with Vigor.

    Anyway, I can't say it's optimal set for now. I've just started to lear how to tank, but have no problems in vDungeons at all. Also, healing yourself and others through the damage is very helpful both for you and healer (especially if the last one isn't very exp or just dead for this moment xD).

    You are a sap tank... why are you not using sap essence or I'm missing something?
    Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly

    I was born with the wrong sign
    In the wrong house
    With the wrong ascendancy
    I took the wrong road
    That led to the wrong tendencies
    I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
    For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
    On the wrong day of the wrong week
    Used the wrong method with the wrong technique
  • WalksonGraves
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    NB tank works better if you ignore the standard sap build. Sap is a garbage heal with no real benefits to a tank. Use invigorating drain to heal and use leeching strikes to maintain.

    Problem with baharas and leeching plate is they get worse the fewer opponents you have making them weakest while 1v1 with a boss.

    BS has the same issue and is more for dks as NB already has high ult gen so there are better options.
    Edited by WalksonGraves on January 21, 2017 6:15PM
  • AlexDresden87
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    I'm working on mine with argonian race. It really works well with the siphoning abilities due to the race passives. So far his Phys and spell resistance is 22.7k with all the armor pieces leeching, weapons and shield and jewelry as well. And iceheart shoulders and head. Now he is far from perfected because I want to be able to another armor set, but out of all the research I've done there isn't any clear information to perfecting the style or any detailed explanation to what to look for really.
  • Xvorg
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    I'm working on mine with argonian race. It really works well with the siphoning abilities due to the race passives. So far his Phys and spell resistance is 22.7k with all the armor pieces leeching, weapons and shield and jewelry as well. And iceheart shoulders and head. Now he is far from perfected because I want to be able to another armor set, but out of all the research I've done there isn't any clear information to perfecting the style or any detailed explanation to what to look for really.

    Iceheart in a sap tank is not good. For a melee mageblade is great
    Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly

    I was born with the wrong sign
    In the wrong house
    With the wrong ascendancy
    I took the wrong road
    That led to the wrong tendencies
    I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
    For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
    On the wrong day of the wrong week
    Used the wrong method with the wrong technique
  • Ruinhorn
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    Xvorg wrote: »
    Ruinhorn wrote: »
    I have ~31k of hp, 22k of magicka and 21k of stamina, something like this. As a khajiit it's ~44 points into health and others in stamina. Don't remember exactly.
    In combat I'm getting ~28k of resistance in dungeons. So it's fine for me, and if I'm getting lack of stamina, just use Siphoning Attacks + light attacks. Also, if a healer is templar and he uses shards, you always will have full resourses.
    I have a build almost similar to Gilliam's one. Just have a bit different CP and attributes. Also, I have 2/2 Bloodspawn, 'cause don't have Malubeth. So, it's 2/2 Bloodspawn, 5/5 Bahraha and 5/5 Leeching. Don't like his way to run MSA healing staff on the second bar, and now I'm gonna put one more 1h + shield on 2nd bar (both Bahraha, similar as on the main bar). And replace Rapid Regen with Vigor.

    Anyway, I can't say it's optimal set for now. I've just started to lear how to tank, but have no problems in vDungeons at all. Also, healing yourself and others through the damage is very helpful both for you and healer (especially if the last one isn't very exp or just dead for this moment xD).

    You are a sap tank... why are you not using sap essence or I'm missing something?

    I'm using it, I didn't tell anything about Sap Essence and other skills, except Siphoning Attacks. Vigor is for extra selfhealing, because Sap heals you through the damage. No damage - no heal.
    Edited by Ruinhorn on January 21, 2017 6:20PM
  • Xvorg
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    Ruinhorn wrote: »
    Xvorg wrote: »
    Ruinhorn wrote: »
    I have ~31k of hp, 22k of magicka and 21k of stamina, something like this. As a khajiit it's ~44 points into health and others in stamina. Don't remember exactly.
    In combat I'm getting ~28k of resistance in dungeons. So it's fine for me, and if I'm getting lack of stamina, just use Siphoning Attacks + light attacks. Also, if a healer is templar and he uses shards, you always will have full resourses.
    I have a build almost similar to Gilliam's one. Just have a bit different CP and attributes. Also, I have 2/2 Bloodspawn, 'cause don't have Malubeth. So, it's 2/2 Bloodspawn, 5/5 Bahraha and 5/5 Leeching. Don't like his way to run MSA healing staff on the second bar, and now I'm gonna put one more 1h + shield on 2nd bar (both Bahraha, similar as on the main bar). And replace Rapid Regen with Vigor.

    Anyway, I can't say it's optimal set for now. I've just started to lear how to tank, but have no problems in vDungeons at all. Also, healing yourself and others through the damage is very helpful both for you and healer (especially if the last one isn't very exp or just dead for this moment xD).

    You are a sap tank... why are you not using sap essence or I'm missing something?

    I'm using it, I didn't tell anything about Sap Essence and other skills, except Siphoning Attacks. Vigor is for extra selfhealing, because Sap heals you through the damage. No damage - no heal.

    do you permablock?

    What about using refreshing path instead of vigor?
    Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly

    I was born with the wrong sign
    In the wrong house
    With the wrong ascendancy
    I took the wrong road
    That led to the wrong tendencies
    I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
    For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
    On the wrong day of the wrong week
    Used the wrong method with the wrong technique
  • Ruinhorn
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    Xvorg wrote: »
    Ruinhorn wrote: »
    Xvorg wrote: »
    Ruinhorn wrote: »
    I have ~31k of hp, 22k of magicka and 21k of stamina, something like this. As a khajiit it's ~44 points into health and others in stamina. Don't remember exactly.
    In combat I'm getting ~28k of resistance in dungeons. So it's fine for me, and if I'm getting lack of stamina, just use Siphoning Attacks + light attacks. Also, if a healer is templar and he uses shards, you always will have full resourses.
    I have a build almost similar to Gilliam's one. Just have a bit different CP and attributes. Also, I have 2/2 Bloodspawn, 'cause don't have Malubeth. So, it's 2/2 Bloodspawn, 5/5 Bahraha and 5/5 Leeching. Don't like his way to run MSA healing staff on the second bar, and now I'm gonna put one more 1h + shield on 2nd bar (both Bahraha, similar as on the main bar). And replace Rapid Regen with Vigor.

    Anyway, I can't say it's optimal set for now. I've just started to lear how to tank, but have no problems in vDungeons at all. Also, healing yourself and others through the damage is very helpful both for you and healer (especially if the last one isn't very exp or just dead for this moment xD).

    You are a sap tank... why are you not using sap essence or I'm missing something?

    I'm using it, I didn't tell anything about Sap Essence and other skills, except Siphoning Attacks. Vigor is for extra selfhealing, because Sap heals you through the damage. No damage - no heal.

    do you permablock?

    What about using refreshing path instead of vigor?

    Well, after DD canceling animation is doing automatically, so I suppose yes.
    Also, refreshing path (and I use it all the time) is just a small DoT for helping you and teammates with healing. Vigor if only for emergency situations, like "healer down" on the boss. Usually "healer + sapping" is more than enough.
  • max_only
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    #FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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