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Magikca Spell Power Ratio(Question for Number Crunchers)

alexj4596b14_ESO
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What is it?
Iv heard every 10.5 magikca gives 1 spell damage and iv heard 40.25 magikca gives 1 spell power. Which one is it?
  • Asayre
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    10.5 max magicka to 1 spell damage for most abilities. 40 magicka to 1 spell damage for weapon attacks
    Edited by Asayre on January 17, 2017 7:52AM
    Reference for any calculation I make Introduction to PvE Damage Calculation
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    Just curious, whats typical unbuffed spell damage? I usually sit between 2300-400.
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  • K4RMA
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    Lord_Wrath wrote: »
    Just curious, whats typical unbuffed spell damage? I usually sit between 2300-400.

    This is a broad question @Lord_Wrath, for what class and setup
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    Asayre wrote: »
    10.5 max magicka to 1 spell damage for most abilities. 40 magicka to 1 spell damage for weapon attacks

    To avoid confusion, 40 to 1 is basic light and heavy attacks. So a destro staff heavy attack uses the 40 to 1 ratio. But a destro staff skill like Force Pulse uses the 10.5 to 1 ratio.
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    @Lord_Wrath You want to consider the cumulative strength of both your max magicka pool and raw spell damage. Here are two examples of unbuffed stats with the same cumulative strength:

    50k magicka (÷10.5 = 4762) + 2200 spell damage = 6962

    42k magicka (÷10.5 = 4000) + 2962 spell damage = 6962

    Weapon attacks will be a little weaker with the first setup but other things that are buffed directly by max magicka like shields and pets will be stronger.

    I think anything over 6500 cumulative strength is good. 7000+ unbuffed would be great. (48k + 2500 / 50k + 2300 / 52k + 2100)
    Edited by dpencil on January 18, 2017 6:15AM
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    All of that disregards other factors to be considered, like crit chance and magicka regen. You may want to balance these somewhat against simply going for the highest raw power.
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    dpencil wrote: »
    @Lord_Wrath You want to consider the cumulative strength of both your max magicka pool and raw spell damage. Here are two examples of unbuffed stats with the same cumulative strength:

    50k magicka (÷10.5 = 4762) + 2200 spell damage = 6962

    42k magicka (÷10.5 = 4000) + 2962 spell damage = 6962

    Weapon attacks will be a little weaker with the first setup but other things that are buffed directly by max magicka like shields and pets will be stronger.

    I think anything over 6500 cumulative strength is good. 7000+ unbuffed would be great. (48k + 2500 / 50k + 2300 / 52k + 2100)

    How are we archiving the 42k magikca? even with food and purple enchants, im hitting 35k, where are we getting this other 10k?
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    dpencil wrote: »
    @Lord_Wrath You want to consider the cumulative strength of both your max magicka pool and raw spell damage. Here are two examples of unbuffed stats with the same cumulative strength:

    50k magicka (÷10.5 = 4762) + 2200 spell damage = 6962

    42k magicka (÷10.5 = 4000) + 2962 spell damage = 6962

    Weapon attacks will be a little weaker with the first setup but other things that are buffed directly by max magicka like shields and pets will be stronger.

    I think anything over 6500 cumulative strength is good. 7000+ unbuffed would be great. (48k + 2500 / 50k + 2300 / 52k + 2100)

    How are we archiving the 42k magikca? even with food and purple enchants, im hitting 35k, where are we getting this other 10k?

    A few things you need to get +40k magicka:
    • 64 Attributes into Magicka
    • Max CPs gets you around +20% Magicka
    • Racial passives for Argonian. Altmer, Dunmer, or Breton
    • Gold Magicka enchantments on all items
    • Undaunted Mettle 2 passive which gives +6% to Health/Magicka/Stamina if wearing 1 of each armor type (Magicka users will wear 5L/1M/1H)
    • Inner Light skill slotted along with passives gives +7%
    • Bound Armor skill slotted if sorcerer
    • Blue Health+Magicka food
    • (optional) Set with +Magicka (Necropotence, Grothgarr, etc...)

    Now you don't necessarily need all of these to reach 40k but every little bit helps. For example my max CP Breton Templar with Grothgarr is just under 44k magicka typically.
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  • alexj4596b14_ESO
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    dpencil wrote: »
    @Lord_Wrath You want to consider the cumulative strength of both your max magicka pool and raw spell damage. Here are two examples of unbuffed stats with the same cumulative strength:

    50k magicka (÷10.5 = 4762) + 2200 spell damage = 6962

    42k magicka (÷10.5 = 4000) + 2962 spell damage = 6962

    Weapon attacks will be a little weaker with the first setup but other things that are buffed directly by max magicka like shields and pets will be stronger.

    I think anything over 6500 cumulative strength is good. 7000+ unbuffed would be great. (48k + 2500 / 50k + 2300 / 52k + 2100)

    How are we archiving the 42k magikca? even with food and purple enchants, im hitting 35k, where are we getting this other 10k?

    A few things you need to get +40k magicka:
    • 64 Attributes into Magicka
    • Max CPs gets you around +20% Magicka
    • Racial passives for Argonian. Altmer, Dunmer, or Breton
    • Gold Magicka enchantments on all items
    • Undaunted Mettle 2 passive which gives +6% to Health/Magicka/Stamina if wearing 1 of each armor type (Magicka users will wear 5L/1M/1H)
    • Inner Light skill slotted along with passives gives +7%
    • Bound Armor skill slotted if sorcerer
    • Blue Health+Magicka food
    • (optional) Set with +Magicka (Necropotence, Grothgarr, etc...)

    Now you don't necessarily need all of these to reach 40k but every little bit helps. For example my max CP Breton Templar with Grothgarr is just under 44k magicka typically.

    yah, im a NB so i think i might make it too almost 40k without sacrificing spell power.
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    dpencil wrote: »
    @Lord_Wrath You want to consider the cumulative strength of both your max magicka pool and raw spell damage. Here are two examples of unbuffed stats with the same cumulative strength:

    50k magicka (÷10.5 = 4762) + 2200 spell damage = 6962

    42k magicka (÷10.5 = 4000) + 2962 spell damage = 6962

    Weapon attacks will be a little weaker with the first setup but other things that are buffed directly by max magicka like shields and pets will be stronger.

    I think anything over 6500 cumulative strength is good. 7000+ unbuffed would be great. (48k + 2500 / 50k + 2300 / 52k + 2100)

    How are we archiving the 42k magikca? even with food and purple enchants, im hitting 35k, where are we getting this other 10k?

    A few things you need to get +40k magicka:
    • 64 Attributes into Magicka
    • Max CPs gets you around +20% Magicka
    • Racial passives for Argonian. Altmer, Dunmer, or Breton
    • Gold Magicka enchantments on all items
    • Undaunted Mettle 2 passive which gives +6% to Health/Magicka/Stamina if wearing 1 of each armor type (Magicka users will wear 5L/1M/1H)
    • Inner Light skill slotted along with passives gives +7%
    • Bound Armor skill slotted if sorcerer
    • Blue Health+Magicka food
    • (optional) Set with +Magicka (Necropotence, Grothgarr, etc...)

    Now you don't necessarily need all of these to reach 40k but every little bit helps. For example my max CP Breton Templar with Grothgarr is just under 44k magicka typically.

    Now the stat spell power increases everything that scales with it at the same rate correct?
    Edited by alexj4596b14_ESO on January 18, 2017 3:07PM
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    dpencil wrote: »
    @Lord_Wrath You want to consider the cumulative strength of both your max magicka pool and raw spell damage. Here are two examples of unbuffed stats with the same cumulative strength:

    50k magicka (÷10.5 = 4762) + 2200 spell damage = 6962

    42k magicka (÷10.5 = 4000) + 2962 spell damage = 6962

    Weapon attacks will be a little weaker with the first setup but other things that are buffed directly by max magicka like shields and pets will be stronger.

    I think anything over 6500 cumulative strength is good. 7000+ unbuffed would be great. (48k + 2500 / 50k + 2300 / 52k + 2100)

    How are we archiving the 42k magikca? even with food and purple enchants, im hitting 35k, where are we getting this other 10k?

    A few things you need to get +40k magicka:
    • 64 Attributes into Magicka
    • Max CPs gets you around +20% Magicka
    • Racial passives for Argonian. Altmer, Dunmer, or Breton
    • Gold Magicka enchantments on all items
    • Undaunted Mettle 2 passive which gives +6% to Health/Magicka/Stamina if wearing 1 of each armor type (Magicka users will wear 5L/1M/1H)
    • Inner Light skill slotted along with passives gives +7%
    • Bound Armor skill slotted if sorcerer
    • Blue Health+Magicka food
    • (optional) Set with +Magicka (Necropotence, Grothgarr, etc...)

    Now you don't necessarily need all of these to reach 40k but every little bit helps. For example my max CP Breton Templar with Grothgarr is just under 44k magicka typically.

    Now the stat spell power increases everything that scales with it at the same rate correct?

    No, not everything, each is slightly different (though may not be noticeable)
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  • alexj4596b14_ESO
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    dpencil wrote: »
    @Lord_Wrath You want to consider the cumulative strength of both your max magicka pool and raw spell damage. Here are two examples of unbuffed stats with the same cumulative strength:

    50k magicka (÷10.5 = 4762) + 2200 spell damage = 6962

    42k magicka (÷10.5 = 4000) + 2962 spell damage = 6962

    Weapon attacks will be a little weaker with the first setup but other things that are buffed directly by max magicka like shields and pets will be stronger.

    I think anything over 6500 cumulative strength is good. 7000+ unbuffed would be great. (48k + 2500 / 50k + 2300 / 52k + 2100)

    How are we archiving the 42k magikca? even with food and purple enchants, im hitting 35k, where are we getting this other 10k?

    A few things you need to get +40k magicka:
    • 64 Attributes into Magicka
    • Max CPs gets you around +20% Magicka
    • Racial passives for Argonian. Altmer, Dunmer, or Breton
    • Gold Magicka enchantments on all items
    • Undaunted Mettle 2 passive which gives +6% to Health/Magicka/Stamina if wearing 1 of each armor type (Magicka users will wear 5L/1M/1H)
    • Inner Light skill slotted along with passives gives +7%
    • Bound Armor skill slotted if sorcerer
    • Blue Health+Magicka food
    • (optional) Set with +Magicka (Necropotence, Grothgarr, etc...)

    Now you don't necessarily need all of these to reach 40k but every little bit helps. For example my max CP Breton Templar with Grothgarr is just under 44k magicka typically.

    Now the stat spell power increases everything that scales with it at the same rate correct?

    No, not everything, each is slightly different (though may not be noticeable)

    So More spell power is better overall? Im just trying to archive close to 3.5.-4k Spell Power that is shown on the character sheet. Would that be better then crit over all?
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    dpencil wrote: »
    @Lord_Wrath You want to consider the cumulative strength of both your max magicka pool and raw spell damage. Here are two examples of unbuffed stats with the same cumulative strength:

    50k magicka (÷10.5 = 4762) + 2200 spell damage = 6962

    42k magicka (÷10.5 = 4000) + 2962 spell damage = 6962

    Weapon attacks will be a little weaker with the first setup but other things that are buffed directly by max magicka like shields and pets will be stronger.

    I think anything over 6500 cumulative strength is good. 7000+ unbuffed would be great. (48k + 2500 / 50k + 2300 / 52k + 2100)

    How are we archiving the 42k magikca? even with food and purple enchants, im hitting 35k, where are we getting this other 10k?

    A few things you need to get +40k magicka:
    • 64 Attributes into Magicka
    • Max CPs gets you around +20% Magicka
    • Racial passives for Argonian. Altmer, Dunmer, or Breton
    • Gold Magicka enchantments on all items
    • Undaunted Mettle 2 passive which gives +6% to Health/Magicka/Stamina if wearing 1 of each armor type (Magicka users will wear 5L/1M/1H)
    • Inner Light skill slotted along with passives gives +7%
    • Bound Armor skill slotted if sorcerer
    • Blue Health+Magicka food
    • (optional) Set with +Magicka (Necropotence, Grothgarr, etc...)

    Now you don't necessarily need all of these to reach 40k but every little bit helps. For example my max CP Breton Templar with Grothgarr is just under 44k magicka typically.

    Now the stat spell power increases everything that scales with it at the same rate correct?

    No, not everything, each is slightly different (though may not be noticeable)

    So More spell power is better overall? Im just trying to archive close to 3.5.-4k Spell Power that is shown on the character sheet. Would that be better then crit over all?

    Well the equations are so slight that its pretty impossible to line up each ability etc. So if you want max magicka vs spell damage you should weigh:

    Why magicka over Spell dmg:
    Sorc Pets?
    Wards size
    Curse/Frag used more often

    Why spl dmg over magicka:
    Other forms of resistance (other than ward)
    Using Clench and or other weapon abilities more often
    Weaving
    And posting pics on forums (lol)

    Now about crit. I need to learn a bit more but Crit is considered King, the most effective and efficient way to increase dps. Uually if its magicka/spell dmg vs crit, crit usually wins.
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  • alexj4596b14_ESO
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    dpencil wrote: »
    @Lord_Wrath You want to consider the cumulative strength of both your max magicka pool and raw spell damage. Here are two examples of unbuffed stats with the same cumulative strength:

    50k magicka (÷10.5 = 4762) + 2200 spell damage = 6962

    42k magicka (÷10.5 = 4000) + 2962 spell damage = 6962

    Weapon attacks will be a little weaker with the first setup but other things that are buffed directly by max magicka like shields and pets will be stronger.

    I think anything over 6500 cumulative strength is good. 7000+ unbuffed would be great. (48k + 2500 / 50k + 2300 / 52k + 2100)

    How are we archiving the 42k magikca? even with food and purple enchants, im hitting 35k, where are we getting this other 10k?

    A few things you need to get +40k magicka:
    • 64 Attributes into Magicka
    • Max CPs gets you around +20% Magicka
    • Racial passives for Argonian. Altmer, Dunmer, or Breton
    • Gold Magicka enchantments on all items
    • Undaunted Mettle 2 passive which gives +6% to Health/Magicka/Stamina if wearing 1 of each armor type (Magicka users will wear 5L/1M/1H)
    • Inner Light skill slotted along with passives gives +7%
    • Bound Armor skill slotted if sorcerer
    • Blue Health+Magicka food
    • (optional) Set with +Magicka (Necropotence, Grothgarr, etc...)

    Now you don't necessarily need all of these to reach 40k but every little bit helps. For example my max CP Breton Templar with Grothgarr is just under 44k magicka typically.

    Now the stat spell power increases everything that scales with it at the same rate correct?

    No, not everything, each is slightly different (though may not be noticeable)

    So More spell power is better overall? Im just trying to archive close to 3.5.-4k Spell Power that is shown on the character sheet. Would that be better then crit over all?

    Well the equations are so slight that its pretty impossible to line up each ability etc. So if you want max magicka vs spell damage you should weigh:

    Why magicka over Spell dmg:
    Sorc Pets?
    Wards size
    Curse/Frag used more often

    Why spl dmg over magicka:
    Other forms of resistance (other than ward)
    Using Clench and or other weapon abilities more often
    Weaving
    And posting pics on forums (lol)

    Now about crit. I need to learn a bit more but Crit is considered King, the most effective and efficient way to increase dps. Uually if its magicka/spell dmg vs crit, crit usually wins.

    Well im at about 66% crit i figured i could drop 6% to increase my power by about 700 between magicka and direct spell power.

    Also im a NB not a sorc lol

    Also are Monster set Required for end game?
    Edited by alexj4596b14_ESO on January 18, 2017 7:21PM
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    dpencil wrote: »
    @Lord_Wrath You want to consider the cumulative strength of both your max magicka pool and raw spell damage. Here are two examples of unbuffed stats with the same cumulative strength:

    50k magicka (÷10.5 = 4762) + 2200 spell damage = 6962

    42k magicka (÷10.5 = 4000) + 2962 spell damage = 6962

    Weapon attacks will be a little weaker with the first setup but other things that are buffed directly by max magicka like shields and pets will be stronger.

    I think anything over 6500 cumulative strength is good. 7000+ unbuffed would be great. (48k + 2500 / 50k + 2300 / 52k + 2100)

    How are we archiving the 42k magikca? even with food and purple enchants, im hitting 35k, where are we getting this other 10k?

    A few things you need to get +40k magicka:
    • 64 Attributes into Magicka
    • Max CPs gets you around +20% Magicka
    • Racial passives for Argonian. Altmer, Dunmer, or Breton
    • Gold Magicka enchantments on all items
    • Undaunted Mettle 2 passive which gives +6% to Health/Magicka/Stamina if wearing 1 of each armor type (Magicka users will wear 5L/1M/1H)
    • Inner Light skill slotted along with passives gives +7%
    • Bound Armor skill slotted if sorcerer
    • Blue Health+Magicka food
    • (optional) Set with +Magicka (Necropotence, Grothgarr, etc...)

    Now you don't necessarily need all of these to reach 40k but every little bit helps. For example my max CP Breton Templar with Grothgarr is just under 44k magicka typically.

    Now the stat spell power increases everything that scales with it at the same rate correct?

    No, not everything, each is slightly different (though may not be noticeable)

    So More spell power is better overall? Im just trying to archive close to 3.5.-4k Spell Power that is shown on the character sheet. Would that be better then crit over all?

    Well the equations are so slight that its pretty impossible to line up each ability etc. So if you want max magicka vs spell damage you should weigh:

    Why magicka over Spell dmg:
    Sorc Pets?
    Wards size
    Curse/Frag used more often

    Why spl dmg over magicka:
    Other forms of resistance (other than ward)
    Using Clench and or other weapon abilities more often
    Weaving
    And posting pics on forums (lol)

    Now about crit. I need to learn a bit more but Crit is considered King, the most effective and efficient way to increase dps. Uually if its magicka/spell dmg vs crit, crit usually wins.

    Well im at about 66% crit i figured i could drop 6% to increase my power by about 700 between magicka and direct spell power.

    Also im a NB not a sorc lol

    Also are Monster set Required for end game?

    NBs... lol he's my alt I wish I could steal some of those passives...

    Anyway!

    66 going to 60 is absolutely fine. Most people recommend 50% ish so you're good there. As a NB i feel max magicka is gonna be better for you over spell damage (remember you do want both!)

    I like your statz. Btw 700 dmg well worth the 6% crit
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    dpencil wrote: »
    @Lord_Wrath You want to consider the cumulative strength of both your max magicka pool and raw spell damage. Here are two examples of unbuffed stats with the same cumulative strength:

    50k magicka (÷10.5 = 4762) + 2200 spell damage = 6962

    42k magicka (÷10.5 = 4000) + 2962 spell damage = 6962

    Weapon attacks will be a little weaker with the first setup but other things that are buffed directly by max magicka like shields and pets will be stronger.

    I think anything over 6500 cumulative strength is good. 7000+ unbuffed would be great. (48k + 2500 / 50k + 2300 / 52k + 2100)

    How are we archiving the 42k magikca? even with food and purple enchants, im hitting 35k, where are we getting this other 10k?

    A few things you need to get +40k magicka:
    • 64 Attributes into Magicka
    • Max CPs gets you around +20% Magicka
    • Racial passives for Argonian. Altmer, Dunmer, or Breton
    • Gold Magicka enchantments on all items
    • Undaunted Mettle 2 passive which gives +6% to Health/Magicka/Stamina if wearing 1 of each armor type (Magicka users will wear 5L/1M/1H)
    • Inner Light skill slotted along with passives gives +7%
    • Bound Armor skill slotted if sorcerer
    • Blue Health+Magicka food
    • (optional) Set with +Magicka (Necropotence, Grothgarr, etc...)

    Now you don't necessarily need all of these to reach 40k but every little bit helps. For example my max CP Breton Templar with Grothgarr is just under 44k magicka typically.

    Now the stat spell power increases everything that scales with it at the same rate correct?

    No, not everything, each is slightly different (though may not be noticeable)

    So More spell power is better overall? Im just trying to archive close to 3.5.-4k Spell Power that is shown on the character sheet. Would that be better then crit over all?

    Well the equations are so slight that its pretty impossible to line up each ability etc. So if you want max magicka vs spell damage you should weigh:

    Why magicka over Spell dmg:
    Sorc Pets?
    Wards size
    Curse/Frag used more often

    Why spl dmg over magicka:
    Other forms of resistance (other than ward)
    Using Clench and or other weapon abilities more often
    Weaving
    And posting pics on forums (lol)

    Now about crit. I need to learn a bit more but Crit is considered King, the most effective and efficient way to increase dps. Uually if its magicka/spell dmg vs crit, crit usually wins.

    Well im at about 66% crit i figured i could drop 6% to increase my power by about 700 between magicka and direct spell power.

    Also im a NB not a sorc lol

    Also are Monster set Required for end game?

    NBs... lol he's my alt I wish I could steal some of those passives...

    Anyway!

    66 going to 60 is absolutely fine. Most people recommend 50% ish so you're good there. As a NB i feel max magicka is gonna be better for you over spell damage (remember you do want both!)

    I like your statz. Btw 700 dmg well worth the 6% crit

    i just learned you dont even need a healer for trails, let alone a NB healer LOL all that work for nothing
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    dpencil wrote: »
    @Lord_Wrath You want to consider the cumulative strength of both your max magicka pool and raw spell damage. Here are two examples of unbuffed stats with the same cumulative strength:

    50k magicka (÷10.5 = 4762) + 2200 spell damage = 6962

    42k magicka (÷10.5 = 4000) + 2962 spell damage = 6962

    Weapon attacks will be a little weaker with the first setup but other things that are buffed directly by max magicka like shields and pets will be stronger.

    I think anything over 6500 cumulative strength is good. 7000+ unbuffed would be great. (48k + 2500 / 50k + 2300 / 52k + 2100)

    How are we archiving the 42k magikca? even with food and purple enchants, im hitting 35k, where are we getting this other 10k?

    A few things you need to get +40k magicka:
    • 64 Attributes into Magicka
    • Max CPs gets you around +20% Magicka
    • Racial passives for Argonian. Altmer, Dunmer, or Breton
    • Gold Magicka enchantments on all items
    • Undaunted Mettle 2 passive which gives +6% to Health/Magicka/Stamina if wearing 1 of each armor type (Magicka users will wear 5L/1M/1H)
    • Inner Light skill slotted along with passives gives +7%
    • Bound Armor skill slotted if sorcerer
    • Blue Health+Magicka food
    • (optional) Set with +Magicka (Necropotence, Grothgarr, etc...)

    Now you don't necessarily need all of these to reach 40k but every little bit helps. For example my max CP Breton Templar with Grothgarr is just under 44k magicka typically.

    Now the stat spell power increases everything that scales with it at the same rate correct?

    No, not everything, each is slightly different (though may not be noticeable)

    So More spell power is better overall? Im just trying to archive close to 3.5.-4k Spell Power that is shown on the character sheet. Would that be better then crit over all?

    Well the equations are so slight that its pretty impossible to line up each ability etc. So if you want max magicka vs spell damage you should weigh:

    Why magicka over Spell dmg:
    Sorc Pets?
    Wards size
    Curse/Frag used more often

    Why spl dmg over magicka:
    Other forms of resistance (other than ward)
    Using Clench and or other weapon abilities more often
    Weaving
    And posting pics on forums (lol)

    Now about crit. I need to learn a bit more but Crit is considered King, the most effective and efficient way to increase dps. Uually if its magicka/spell dmg vs crit, crit usually wins.

    Well im at about 66% crit i figured i could drop 6% to increase my power by about 700 between magicka and direct spell power.

    Also im a NB not a sorc lol

    Also are Monster set Required for end game?

    NBs... lol he's my alt I wish I could steal some of those passives...

    Anyway!

    66 going to 60 is absolutely fine. Most people recommend 50% ish so you're good there. As a NB i feel max magicka is gonna be better for you over spell damage (remember you do want both!)

    I like your statz. Btw 700 dmg well worth the 6% crit

    i just learned you dont even need a healer for trails, let alone a NB healer LOL all that work for nothing

    :(
    Gamer tag: DasPanzerKat NA Xbox One
    1300+ CP
    Battleground PvP'er

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  • greylox
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    I've got about 53.5 k magicka and 2100 spell damage on my main sorc (Argonian with necropotence) so I'm happy with that. Really interesting thread.
    Edited by greylox on January 19, 2017 8:56AM
    PC EU

    House of the Black Lotus
    *{Smokes-in-the-Shade }* (Mag pet Sorc Argonian, prolific thief, willing participant of the dark arts, gardener of exotic...herbs)
    {Lugdum The Mechanist} (Hybrid Orc Templar, collector of ancient Ayleid smoking pipes)
    {Rantoul} (Dark Elf Magknight, likes an ale between boss fights, has been known to offer daedric princes out in a fist fight)
    {Red, The Wanderer} (Bosmer stam sorc and hunter extraordinaire)
    {Shoots-For-Stars} (Argonian Mag pet Sorc Ice mage Healer)
    *{Jinny the spark }* (Sassy Imperial Stamplar)
    {Crezzi the Drifter} (Magblade khajiit burglar, available for questionable operations)
    {Grif the Despised} (StamKnight Tank Nord, Eastmarch Master Drinker and spinner of tall yarns)
    {Geraldine Stone-Heart} (High Elf MagSorc Ice Tank, Mystic, practitioner of the ancient arts)
    *{Anawinn}* (Stam pet Ward Redguard, Mother to a bear and an unruly Hunger,Librarian, field medic and natures fist)

    {*}Mains
    { CP 900+ }

    Caretaker of Battle Island (Grand Topal), the holiday destination for the discerning warrior
    Residing in Stay-Moist Mansion-Shadowfen - The Smoking Den (as of 6th feb 2017)

  • alexj4596b14_ESO
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    greylox wrote: »
    I've got about 53.5 k magicka and 2100 spell damage on my main sorc (Argonian with necropotence) so I'm happy with that. Really interesting thread.

    not sure what your second set is but you could try doubling up.
    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Robes+of+Destruction+Mastery+Set
  • alexj4596b14_ESO
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    @Waffennacht Hey what about useing weapon damage as a magikca based toon, and using this set to make it so your weapon damage can be used to make your spells damage even more?

    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Pelinal's+Aptitude+Set
  • Waffennacht
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    @Waffennacht Hey what about useing weapon damage as a magikca based toon, and using this set to make it so your weapon damage can be used to make your spells damage even more?

    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Pelinal's+Aptitude+Set

    The best I've seen of Pelinal is with werewolf, there seems to be really good synergy there. I've never had a toon be a werewolf before unfortunately.
    Gamer tag: DasPanzerKat NA Xbox One
    1300+ CP
    Battleground PvP'er

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  • greylox
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    greylox wrote: »
    I've got about 53.5 k magicka and 2100 spell damage on my main sorc (Argonian with necropotence) so I'm happy with that. Really interesting thread.

    not sure what your second set is but you could try doubling up.
    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Robes+of+Destruction+Mastery+Set

    I did actually have that at one time but went back to willpower rings and necklace. It did give more magicka but I run 2 destro and like wearing either the kena set or infernal guardian set so can't have 2 5 piece sets at the same time.

    PC EU

    House of the Black Lotus
    *{Smokes-in-the-Shade }* (Mag pet Sorc Argonian, prolific thief, willing participant of the dark arts, gardener of exotic...herbs)
    {Lugdum The Mechanist} (Hybrid Orc Templar, collector of ancient Ayleid smoking pipes)
    {Rantoul} (Dark Elf Magknight, likes an ale between boss fights, has been known to offer daedric princes out in a fist fight)
    {Red, The Wanderer} (Bosmer stam sorc and hunter extraordinaire)
    {Shoots-For-Stars} (Argonian Mag pet Sorc Ice mage Healer)
    *{Jinny the spark }* (Sassy Imperial Stamplar)
    {Crezzi the Drifter} (Magblade khajiit burglar, available for questionable operations)
    {Grif the Despised} (StamKnight Tank Nord, Eastmarch Master Drinker and spinner of tall yarns)
    {Geraldine Stone-Heart} (High Elf MagSorc Ice Tank, Mystic, practitioner of the ancient arts)
    *{Anawinn}* (Stam pet Ward Redguard, Mother to a bear and an unruly Hunger,Librarian, field medic and natures fist)

    {*}Mains
    { CP 900+ }

    Caretaker of Battle Island (Grand Topal), the holiday destination for the discerning warrior
    Residing in Stay-Moist Mansion-Shadowfen - The Smoking Den (as of 6th feb 2017)

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