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Crown Prices Of Houses Speculation
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ScooberSteve✭✭✭✭If ZOS are smart they will make the homes fairly cheap and make their money back through crown sale furniture items.3 -
Dominoid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭For the love of future Talos. Please READ the linked post. The crown value shown is not the estimated crown store price for a furnished home. All I did was list all the furniture included on a furnished house purchase. I then went to the crown store on PTS and copied how much the individual items sold for. I then added them all up. That is it. That is not what I think a furnished house will sell for. It is simply a total of furniture value to help you make a purchase decision when crown prices are announced. I even say that in the post. Talos.4 -
Emencie✭✭✭✭snakester320 wrote: »
No way they can't there going to price them selves out of sales .. while I honestly can't see how they can charge more than 5k crowns same as a dlc BUT it is ZOS .. they have to be careful though price it to high and there going to lose money otherwise why even offer it as a payed option rather than work for it then charge ridiculous crowns for it.. double edged sword ...then again if a company is going to fall on that so called sword it WILL be ZOS!You can bet a manor is going to cost a 100 plus at least.
I would say more around 200.
As I mentioned before, history has shown that ZOS will price things extremely high and people will still buy them. I heard the same exact arguments before about other things, assistants, mounts, etc... how ZOS would never charge as much as a DLC, etc... and sure enough, ZOS charges extremely high and people buy them; ZOS is charging 400 Crown for a CUP, how can you expect an entire house selling for less than 5000 Crown?!?
That is how business is done.
In my professional life we have a thing we call selective price markup. What it basically comes down to is the large price of equipment that costs a lot, we sell at a very low 15-30% markup. So an item that costs us $1000.00 to make we sale for $1300, and only make about $300.
But that equipment needs replacement parts, and those replacement parts cost the customer $5. But they only cost us $0.50 to make. We have a 900% mark up on that part. So we will make another $300 off that customer after they purchase 67 of those items, and our machine requires 100 of them per cycle. To the customer it seems cheap to keep up maintenance instead of buying a new machine and they will fork over money for years to keep it repaired.
The key is that even though the big purchase costs the most money, it is not what actually makes the most money for the company. Same with this housing thing. They want us buying lots of 400 crown cups, chairs and tables. Because it's easier for us to spend small amounts of money, multiple times. The house itself is the hook to get us spending on the real money makers.
At least that is what I would expect, it's how most mmo housing does it.5 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭FloppyTouch wrote: »I think 100k crowns to 300k crowns is a very fair price for a housing
Gl getting 99.99999% of the game to pay that2 -
Taternater✭✭✭I speculate that houses are going to be pretty cheap and zos intends to make money off furniture sales. In fact, the more houses someone buys with the same amount of crowns, the more furniture they will need.1
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Inerar✭✭✭Last time, when the Great Elk speculated before announcement, i didn't beleive that. Now i beleive and yes these are furnished prices. If there is a chance to get them with coins, then i don't care the prices. Don't act like saw a disaster. Do some trade and get a house. Some medium houses are really nice and i think they can reachable by every player.Whenever i search for an alternative game, i realize that how beautiful ESO is...0 -
Cyrediath✭✭✭Here is an example,
Im thinking to buy crown exclusive island and i would pay 5-10k max and would pay around 3k (1.5 eso plus) monthly for furnishing. But if they make it 15k+ im not gonna buy that. I wont pay 15k at once. I would buy big house or manor with a bit farming with gold and be happy with it.
But here is the thing. Zos would want to earn money either from people who bought houses with crowns or in game currency, gold. So they will make furnishing overpriced and keep houses reasonable so people will tend to buy them with crowns not with gold also people bought houses with gold will pay good amount of crowns for furnishing.
About the merchant thing, you cannot buy something like that with gold so some people just bought it. I dont know which platform you are playing im on pc eu and for my experience its like 1/20 people have it. I also bought merchant but i tought it repairs also because i didnt watch any videos whatsoever i just read the description and i tought it regular merchant and bought it. It was rip off and it was lile scamming.0 -
Taternater✭✭✭I also bought the merchant and was disappointed. However she proves useful when I'm farming chests or a delve. Chests take longer to reappear if you don't take everything from the chest because they sit there a while if you only partially loot it before disappearing. With a delve selling that loot adds up. Also if you get a tell from a friend inviting you to run a dungeon and you need to free up inventory space for the upcoming loot, she proves useful.0
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Fodore✭✭✭✭It will vary IMO people might get lucky in crates or you might turn out like deltia
Before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes.After that who cares?They're a mile away and you've got their shoes.0 -
Cyrediath✭✭✭Zos will want people to get in the game with buying houses so later on they can sell crown crates, furnitures, more eso plus etc.
You cant compare housing with a mount. You pay 4.5k for a mount and its yours. No extra payments.
On the othand you pay 10k for crown exclusive or manor (biggest furniture space) , you want to buy eso plus for more furnishing and you will want to buy more crown crates if they add some furnitures in it or you will buy some furnitures directly from crown store and its ongoing process every month they will add new furnitures and you will buy. Maybe not you but other people. So that 10k manor will be 50k at the end of the year maybe more than that who knows. But if zenimax sells it for something like 15-20k people will think about it before buying. Like hey 20k is 150 euros or something. (Which in my country you can buy 10 plane tickets with that) and most of them will end up not buying it (inc. Me)
And yea we will see lots of comments like "lulz it shuld b 50k crwm i woulz payz anything lower that tht is stooped"1 -
snakester320✭✭✭✭I agree with the cheaper crown houses ...
Then throw the furniture at big prices and eventually they will stick furniture in the scam boxes.
I just don't think they can or should scam bigger crowns out of the housing ..
Sure there's going to be players throwing money at them but they seem to be doing a lot of taking and f.ck all giving of late ..
Can you really call housing content is there anything other than to throw crowns at them..
Where is the actual content like a whole new areas with quests dungeons like wrothgar and Gold Coast etc.. that's what I call content!! Not shadows of the hist crap!!
For the money ppl are throwing at them theses things should be happening and happening a lot faster and with better larger content..Edited by snakester320 on January 20, 2017 9:13AM0 -
GarnetFire17✭✭✭✭For as much as the houses are going to cost they should bundle other things with it like the banker and merchant, etc...0
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ADarklore✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Not everyone is going to want to furnish their house; if thousands of people buy a cheap manor but sparsely decorate it, ZOS loses money. There is absolutely NO guarantee that if someone buys a home they are going to spend a fortune in Crowns to decorate it, they could simply just craft items or buy in-game items- and ZOS loses money on the house.
Also, consider the huge variety of houses available, there has to be a difference in pricing between them, they're not going to sell a small home for the same price as a manor.
People argue that buying a house is 'the hook', but not everyone needs a huge manor and not everyone would even decorate a huge manor... so ZOS has to plan for that aspect as well. There also has to be somewhat of an 'exclusivity' feel to the larger homes, and pricing it high would offer that. A house is a not a 'need', and nobody 'needs' a manor... if they want one, then they can buy a cheap house now and save for the manor... whether it be in in-game gold or Crowns. Also consider how all of this will definitely make the Crown sales a LOT more lucrative for ZOS.Edited by ADarklore on January 20, 2017 1:47PMCP: 2130 ** ESO+ ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
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Krainor1974✭✭✭✭✭I'm hoping fully furnished some where in these ranges and not higher.
Small - 1,500 - 3000 crowns.
Medium - 3,000 - 5,500 crowns.
Large - 5,500 - 10,000 crowns.
Manor - 10,000 - 15,000 crowns.Edited by Krainor1974 on January 20, 2017 4:05PM1 -
Cyrediath✭✭✭Not everyone is going to want to furnish their house; if thousands of people buy a cheap manor but sparsely decorate it, ZOS loses money. There is absolutely NO guarantee that if someone buys a home they are going to spend a fortune in Crowns to decorate it, they could simply just craft items or buy in-game items- and ZOS loses money on the house.
Also, consider the huge variety of houses available, there has to be a difference in pricing between them, they're not going to sell a small home for the same price as a manor.
People argue that buying a house is 'the hook', but not everyone needs a huge manor and not everyone would even decorate a huge manor... so ZOS has to plan for that aspect as well. There also has to be somewhat of an 'exclusivity' feel to the larger homes, and pricing it high would offer that. A house is a not a 'need', and nobody 'needs' a manor... if they want one, then they can buy a cheap house now and save for the manor... whether it be in in-game gold or Crowns. Also consider how all of this will definitely make the Crown sales a LOT more lucrative for ZOS.
The more i see people talking like you the more i loose my faith community. Some people deserve evetything overpriced that companies throw at them. Gj.Edited by Cyrediath on January 20, 2017 4:44PM1 -
Betheny✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Not everyone is going to want to furnish their house; if thousands of people buy a cheap manor but sparsely decorate it, ZOS loses money. There is absolutely NO guarantee that if someone buys a home they are going to spend a fortune in Crowns to decorate it, they could simply just craft items or buy in-game items- and ZOS loses money on the house.
Also, consider the huge variety of houses available, there has to be a difference in pricing between them, they're not going to sell a small home for the same price as a manor.
People argue that buying a house is 'the hook', but not everyone needs a huge manor and not everyone would even decorate a huge manor... so ZOS has to plan for that aspect as well. There also has to be somewhat of an 'exclusivity' feel to the larger homes, and pricing it high would offer that. A house is a not a 'need', and nobody 'needs' a manor... if they want one, then they can buy a cheap house now and save for the manor... whether it be in in-game gold or Crowns. Also consider how all of this will definitely make the Crown sales a LOT more lucrative for ZOS.
The more i see people talking like you the more i loose my faith community. Some people deserve evetything overpriced that companies throw at them. Gj.
Don't worry about them, they're just people who intend to buy houses with gold and hope that the cost in Crowns will be extremely high as well, so they can own something others can't get.3 -
Soella✭✭✭✭Housing was demanded by community, furniture was invented by ZOS to bring money and increase game longevity. We are supposed to spend a lot of time and resources (both in game and crowns) to decorate our houses, it will be a very long term project for many players. To make it work, unfurnished houses should be reasonably cheap. I'd say 5.5K manors, a bit more crown exclusive. But their furnitured options might be very pricy. As well as Christmas tree or set of paintings or gardiner.
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Cyrediath✭✭✭Housing was demanded by community, furniture was invented by ZOS to bring money and increase game longevity. We are supposed to spend a lot of time and resources (both in game and crowns) to decorate our houses, it will be a very long term project for many players. To make it work, unfurnished houses should be reasonably cheap. I'd say 5.5K manors, a bit more crown exclusive. But their furnitured options might be very pricy. As well as Christmas tree or set of paintings or gardiner.
Yea i agree with that except 1 thing. I think crown exclusives will be cheaper than manors because manors can be bought with gold also and comes with title/achievement and names/places are cool. Crown exclusive doesnt have anything sadly just good place and can be bough via only crowns so it will be reasonabke price i guess. 5k for crown houses and 5.5k for manor maybe ^^ 4 large 3 medium (2 months eso plus) 2 and 1k for other smalls.1 -
Jim_Pipp✭✭✭✭✭
✭It is in ZOS interest for housing to be affordable (i.e. no more than the largest pack of crowns for an unfurnished property);
1) When they add extra functions in the future (e.g. farms) players will have a choice between removing items from their current homes to make space for new functioning furnishings... or just buying a new house for the new functions. Affordable housing encourages long term spending through owning multiple homes.
2) Exclusivity is over-rated if you (and a select group of friends) are the only ones that can see it. The tittles are the only visible sign that someone has invested heavily in housing. I'm not saying players are only motivated by showing off, but there is little value in the homes except the value we put into them.
3)The convenience of crown store furnishings really does guarantee that furniture will make a lot of real life money (you cannot use the housing-editor to furnish your home without the option of purchasing new furnishings- this is a different interface from the crown store). There is no reason to think that more (and larger) houses won't mean more demand for furnishings. There is a steep (but reasonable) increase in house prices bought with in-game gold, but to attract and cater to people who spend in the crown store it would be better if manors were only slightly more expensive than smaller homes when purchased in the crown store.
4) The housing update comes instead of DLC. Zos has a good track record of selling DLC at a reasonable price so it gives the largest number of players more reason to play. In leiu of new content, housing is the hook AND line that keeps players logging in because the grind for the perfect home is epic.
5) ZOS is getting a reputation for focussing on profit not content. Affordable homes would be universally popular with players, and how players feel about this game will ultimately determine how much it makes.
TLDR Zos can get a one-off cash injection from the Whales and those players who are still hyped about housing, or they can set up housing to be a long-term money-maker as players take on (and furnish) more and more homes as new properties, furnishing and functions become available.#1 tip (Re)check your graphics settings periodically - especially resolution.1 -
Nickernator✭✭✭My guess: (Unfurnished)
500 Small
2000 Medium
3000 Large
5000 ManorESO player since release
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Cyrediath✭✭✭The thing is while you passing by a house its just a regular house for you. You dont know if that guy near to house own that house. There is no indication. So when you buy it its just for you. Other people see it only when you invite them. So its not something to show off other than manor titles. You just show off your friends thats all. Not like merchant girl that you summon and can be seen by everyone.1
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wiz12268b14_ESO✭✭✭I have said it multiple times. MINIMUM for Manor houses will be a years worth of sub crowns which is 18K. That is the minimum. I expect them to be twice that going by history and some comparison. Thats unfurnished. The crown only ones will likely be 50% more than that if not doubled. So expect 27-36K for those.
I expect them to sell furnishing packages and I dont think they will be pre placed furnished like they are on the PTS. After all half the 'fun' of housing is going to be decorating them. I just think the stuff on the PTS is to make it simple and give people some idea of what an 'optimally' decorated/furnished house will look like.
People talking about 5000 crowns for manors are in frigging dream land.
People forget they give crowns away for subs that definitely dictates their pricing. Housing is an obvious goal of a gold sink as well as getting rid of hoarded crowns subscribers have accrued over their time playing.
But even if there were no crowns for subs I would expect manors to start around the 10K area.
I also have mentioned I think they will introduce a new crown package tier. More than likely 15000 (or to follow their form 14500) for 99.99. I would also like to see them roll this all out along with a crown discount. Afterall this SHOULD be the DLC/update to bring people back and get others who have played and left to come back. So while housing might not be everyones cup of tea, 14500 or 15000 crowns for 60 bucks is something everyone can appreciate. And i f houses are what I expect them to be those prices are going to be a green light for people to go all out and just buy a half a dozen and expect them to last them a year or more.
We will see but history and their previous crown store offerings dont suggest in anyway shape or form the prices will be low. BUT, and the big but is they HAVE offered crown sales and to me thats the best people should be hoping for. And we may not even get that.0 -
AlMcFly✭✭✭✭✭
✭Taternater wrote: »IChests take longer to reappear if you don't take everything from the chest because they sit there a while if you only partially loot it before disappearing.
People who open a chest and leave items in there, preventing the chest from despawning, deserve a special place in hell.0 -
Cyrediath✭✭✭wiz12268b14_ESO wrote: »I have said it multiple times. MINIMUM for Manor houses will be a years worth of sub crowns which is 18K. That is the minimum. I expect them to be twice that going by history and some comparison. Thats unfurnished. The crown only ones will likely be 50% more than that if not doubled. So expect 27-36K for those.
I expect them to sell furnishing packages and I dont think they will be pre placed furnished like they are on the PTS. After all half the 'fun' of housing is going to be decorating them. I just think the stuff on the PTS is to make it simple and give people some idea of what an 'optimally' decorated/furnished house will look like.
People talking about 5000 crowns for manors are in frigging dream land.
People forget they give crowns away for subs that definitely dictates their pricing. Housing is an obvious goal of a gold sink as well as getting rid of hoarded crowns subscribers have accrued over their time playing.
But even if there were no crowns for subs I would expect manors to start around the 10K area.
I also have mentioned I think they will introduce a new crown package tier. More than likely 15000 (or to follow their form 14500) for 99.99. I would also like to see them roll this all out along with a crown discount. Afterall this SHOULD be the DLC/update to bring people back and get others who have played and left to come back. So while housing might not be everyones cup of tea, 14500 or 15000 crowns for 60 bucks is something everyone can appreciate. And i f houses are what I expect them to be those prices are going to be a green light for people to go all out and just buy a half a dozen and expect them to last them a year or more.
We will see but history and their previous crown store offerings dont suggest in anyway shape or form the prices will be low. BUT, and the big but is they HAVE offered crown sales and to me thats the best people should be hoping for. And we may not even get that.
27-36k ? You are dreaming. It ridicilous compered to 3.7 million gold. Anything lower than 50k crowns frigging dreamland. I will buy all three manors 150k anything lower than that ridicilous.0 -
Karius_Imalthar✭✭✭✭✭I would hope the crown costs aren't outrageous. I think it would be in the best interest for ZOS to make them affordable to encourage people to give them real (ok, one step removed from real) money for these.1 -
ADarklore✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Not everyone is going to want to furnish their house; if thousands of people buy a cheap manor but sparsely decorate it, ZOS loses money. There is absolutely NO guarantee that if someone buys a home they are going to spend a fortune in Crowns to decorate it, they could simply just craft items or buy in-game items- and ZOS loses money on the house.
Also, consider the huge variety of houses available, there has to be a difference in pricing between them, they're not going to sell a small home for the same price as a manor.
People argue that buying a house is 'the hook', but not everyone needs a huge manor and not everyone would even decorate a huge manor... so ZOS has to plan for that aspect as well. There also has to be somewhat of an 'exclusivity' feel to the larger homes, and pricing it high would offer that. A house is a not a 'need', and nobody 'needs' a manor... if they want one, then they can buy a cheap house now and save for the manor... whether it be in in-game gold or Crowns. Also consider how all of this will definitely make the Crown sales a LOT more lucrative for ZOS.
The more i see people talking like you the more i loose my faith community. Some people deserve evetything overpriced that companies throw at them. Gj.
Yeah, the people talking like me are the ones who have been playing the game for years and have seen the outrageous prices creep higher and higher with each release. We have also seen people like you who are naive to think that ZOS won't capitalize on this as much as they can like they have with everything else, the same exact people who see the reality once the prices are posted and immediately begin the "I'm quitting" threads. Those players like me expect the outrageous prices and prepare accordingly... such as buying lots and lots of Crowns when they are on sale.CP: 2130 ** ESO+ ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
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wiz12268b14_ESO✭✭✭wiz12268b14_ESO wrote: »I have said it multiple times. MINIMUM for Manor houses will be a years worth of sub crowns which is 18K. That is the minimum. I expect them to be twice that going by history and some comparison. Thats unfurnished. The crown only ones will likely be 50% more than that if not doubled. So expect 27-36K for those.
I expect them to sell furnishing packages and I dont think they will be pre placed furnished like they are on the PTS. After all half the 'fun' of housing is going to be decorating them. I just think the stuff on the PTS is to make it simple and give people some idea of what an 'optimally' decorated/furnished house will look like.
People talking about 5000 crowns for manors are in frigging dream land.
People forget they give crowns away for subs that definitely dictates their pricing. Housing is an obvious goal of a gold sink as well as getting rid of hoarded crowns subscribers have accrued over their time playing.
But even if there were no crowns for subs I would expect manors to start around the 10K area.
I also have mentioned I think they will introduce a new crown package tier. More than likely 15000 (or to follow their form 14500) for 99.99. I would also like to see them roll this all out along with a crown discount. Afterall this SHOULD be the DLC/update to bring people back and get others who have played and left to come back. So while housing might not be everyones cup of tea, 14500 or 15000 crowns for 60 bucks is something everyone can appreciate. And i f houses are what I expect them to be those prices are going to be a green light for people to go all out and just buy a half a dozen and expect them to last them a year or more.
We will see but history and their previous crown store offerings dont suggest in anyway shape or form the prices will be low. BUT, and the big but is they HAVE offered crown sales and to me thats the best people should be hoping for. And we may not even get that.
27-36k ? You are dreaming. It ridicilous compered to 3.7 million gold. Anything lower than 50k crowns frigging dreamland. I will buy all three manors 150k anything lower than that ridicilous.
Maybe. If you go by gold costs from third party then the 3.75 million or whatever they are is equal to about 400 US dollars. 400 US dollar to crowns (under current packages) is about 55000. So it is possible, I said that would be on the high end in another post and using that same anecdotal formula I just used here in that posting.
But because you get crowns 'free' for subbing it changes that dynamic slightly and might actually make it more expensive. But I cant see them charging that much real life money. Even if they do offer a new higher crown package. Because even at 99.99 for 15000 ($60 on a discount) it would still be 200 real life dollars for a 50K crown house.
For something with ZERO functionality that is more than a handful of people would be willing to pay.0