rotaugen454 wrote: »If these prices were real, they'd have to sell crowns in much larger packs.Who would make 10 of the 5500 Crown pack purchases just for one item?
Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Obviously it's speculation, but I have a feeling that anybody thinking a manor will be in the 5k crown range is going to have kittens when the prices are released. There has to be some correlation between gold and crowns. 3.8 million gold is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else in this game (other than guild trader spots). I expect the crown price to be equally out of line with what we have seen so far.
My guess is 25k for a manor.
I think you will be able to get a house for 5k crowns, but I don't think it will be a big one.
5.500 crown 35 euros right? its around 450 euros for 3 manors. Its insanely overpriced because also there will be furnishing. Nothings was more expensive than biggest crown pack in game which is 5.500. i think they can make it max 16.500 for furnished crown exclusive that will be the highes price because higher than that would be so greedy imo. People will want to buy other houses and want to buy some furnitures and 105 euros for crown exclusive with all furnitures would be maximum price.
i think crown exclusives will be 5.500 and manors will be 6-7k because of title.
Real Money always will be more important because people are actually paying to game and zos should appriciate that. In most countries 300 dollars minimum salary and making crown exclusive with furnitures 100 dollars will make it impossible for people lives in this countries. World is not all about usa/england/germany. I see people "ahh i can give 25k anything lower that would be a joke because its expensive with gold bla bla" yea maybe you can even pay 50k there are people can pay 100k crowns. But most of the players in eso wont pay more than 5k crowns.
Zos made elk mount 5k crowns and only few people bought it because they wanted to seem exclusive. I dont see many people riding that mount. for an example instead of selling x100 mounts from 5k =500k crowns, eso can make it 2.500 crowns and 1.000 people would buy it 2.500.000 crowns.
If zos make anything furnished more than 15k crowns they will be on gaming websites headline like "greedy zos"
Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Obviously it's speculation, but I have a feeling that anybody thinking a manor will be in the 5k crown range is going to have kittens when the prices are released. There has to be some correlation between gold and crowns. 3.8 million gold is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else in this game (other than guild trader spots). I expect the crown price to be equally out of line with what we have seen so far.
My guess is 25k for a manor.
I think you will be able to get a house for 5k crowns, but I don't think it will be a big one.
5.500 crown 35 euros right? its around 450 euros for 3 manors. Its insanely overpriced because also there will be furnishing. Nothings was more expensive than biggest crown pack in game which is 5.500. i think they can make it max 16.500 for furnished crown exclusive that will be the highes price because higher than that would be so greedy imo. People will want to buy other houses and want to buy some furnitures and 105 euros for crown exclusive with all furnitures would be maximum price.
i think crown exclusives will be 5.500 and manors will be 6-7k because of title.
Real Money always will be more important because people are actually paying to game and zos should appriciate that. In most countries 300 dollars minimum salary and making crown exclusive with furnitures 100 dollars will make it impossible for people lives in this countries. World is not all about usa/england/germany. I see people "ahh i can give 25k anything lower that would be a joke because its expensive with gold bla bla" yea maybe you can even pay 50k there are people can pay 100k crowns. But most of the players in eso wont pay more than 5k crowns.
Zos made elk mount 5k crowns and only few people bought it because they wanted to seem exclusive. I dont see many people riding that mount. for an example instead of selling x100 mounts from 5k =500k crowns, eso can make it 2.500 crowns and 1.000 people would buy it 2.500.000 crowns.
If zos make anything furnished more than 15k crowns they will be on gaming websites headline like "greedy zos"
@Cyrediath
People with a $300 monthly salary aren't playing this game. They would not have a PC to run it fr starters.
Zos created housing for everyone and doesn't expect everyone to buy a manor and the pricing will reflect that.
Along with housing sizes to fit any budget Zos also intends many will get their furnishings in game hence the crafting that will be available in game to meet these needs and desires.
Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Obviously it's speculation, but I have a feeling that anybody thinking a manor will be in the 5k crown range is going to have kittens when the prices are released. There has to be some correlation between gold and crowns. 3.8 million gold is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else in this game (other than guild trader spots). I expect the crown price to be equally out of line with what we have seen so far.
My guess is 25k for a manor.
I think you will be able to get a house for 5k crowns, but I don't think it will be a big one.
5.500 crown 35 euros right? its around 450 euros for 3 manors. Its insanely overpriced because also there will be furnishing. Nothings was more expensive than biggest crown pack in game which is 5.500. i think they can make it max 16.500 for furnished crown exclusive that will be the highes price because higher than that would be so greedy imo. People will want to buy other houses and want to buy some furnitures and 105 euros for crown exclusive with all furnitures would be maximum price.
i think crown exclusives will be 5.500 and manors will be 6-7k because of title.
Real Money always will be more important because people are actually paying to game and zos should appriciate that. In most countries 300 dollars minimum salary and making crown exclusive with furnitures 100 dollars will make it impossible for people lives in this countries. World is not all about usa/england/germany. I see people "ahh i can give 25k anything lower that would be a joke because its expensive with gold bla bla" yea maybe you can even pay 50k there are people can pay 100k crowns. But most of the players in eso wont pay more than 5k crowns.
Zos made elk mount 5k crowns and only few people bought it because they wanted to seem exclusive. I dont see many people riding that mount. for an example instead of selling x100 mounts from 5k =500k crowns, eso can make it 2.500 crowns and 1.000 people would buy it 2.500.000 crowns.
If zos make anything furnished more than 15k crowns they will be on gaming websites headline like "greedy zos"
@Cyrediath
People with a $300 monthly salary aren't playing this game. They would not have a PC to run it fr starters.
Zos created housing for everyone and doesn't expect everyone to buy a manor and the pricing will reflect that.
Along with housing sizes to fit any budget Zos also intends many will get their furnishings in game hence the crafting that will be available in game to meet these needs and desires.
Prof_Bawbag wrote: »What's the most expensive piece (not plural) of content to have appeared in any MMO? I suspect ZoS would be garnering a few negative headlines if they had the audacity to price something at +25k crowns. Even at 20k. The advantage those people have spending 3.whatever million on the houses is they'll have not needed to use real money.
Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »No way in heck would someone spend 500$ irl for a mansion, just not going to happen ha. My guess around 50-60 for a manor at the most, 40$ at the least.
Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Obviously it's speculation, but I have a feeling that anybody thinking a manor will be in the 5k crown range is going to have kittens when the prices are released. There has to be some correlation between gold and crowns. 3.8 million gold is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else in this game (other than guild trader spots). I expect the crown price to be equally out of line with what we have seen so far.
My guess is 25k for a manor.
I think you will be able to get a house for 5k crowns, but I don't think it will be a big one.
5.500 crown 35 euros right? its around 450 euros for 3 manors. Its insanely overpriced because also there will be furnishing. Nothings was more expensive than biggest crown pack in game which is 5.500. i think they can make it max 16.500 for furnished crown exclusive that will be the highes price because higher than that would be so greedy imo. People will want to buy other houses and want to buy some furnitures and 105 euros for crown exclusive with all furnitures would be maximum price.
i think crown exclusives will be 5.500 and manors will be 6-7k because of title.
Real Money always will be more important because people are actually paying to game and zos should appriciate that. In most countries 300 dollars minimum salary and making crown exclusive with furnitures 100 dollars will make it impossible for people lives in this countries. World is not all about usa/england/germany. I see people "ahh i can give 25k anything lower that would be a joke because its expensive with gold bla bla" yea maybe you can even pay 50k there are people can pay 100k crowns. But most of the players in eso wont pay more than 5k crowns.
Zos made elk mount 5k crowns and only few people bought it because they wanted to seem exclusive. I dont see many people riding that mount. for an example instead of selling x100 mounts from 5k =500k crowns, eso can make it 2.500 crowns and 1.000 people would buy it 2.500.000 crowns.
If zos make anything furnished more than 15k crowns they will be on gaming websites headline like "greedy zos"
Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Obviously it's speculation, but I have a feeling that anybody thinking a manor will be in the 5k crown range is going to have kittens when the prices are released. There has to be some correlation between gold and crowns. 3.8 million gold is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else in this game (other than guild trader spots). I expect the crown price to be equally out of line with what we have seen so far.
My guess is 25k for a manor.
I think you will be able to get a house for 5k crowns, but I don't think it will be a big one.
5.500 crown 35 euros right? its around 450 euros for 3 manors. Its insanely overpriced because also there will be furnishing. Nothings was more expensive than biggest crown pack in game which is 5.500. i think they can make it max 16.500 for furnished crown exclusive that will be the highes price because higher than that would be so greedy imo. People will want to buy other houses and want to buy some furnitures and 105 euros for crown exclusive with all furnitures would be maximum price.
i think crown exclusives will be 5.500 and manors will be 6-7k because of title.
Real Money always will be more important because people are actually paying to game and zos should appriciate that. In most countries 300 dollars minimum salary and making crown exclusive with furnitures 100 dollars will make it impossible for people lives in this countries. World is not all about usa/england/germany. I see people "ahh i can give 25k anything lower that would be a joke because its expensive with gold bla bla" yea maybe you can even pay 50k there are people can pay 100k crowns. But most of the players in eso wont pay more than 5k crowns.
Zos made elk mount 5k crowns and only few people bought it because they wanted to seem exclusive. I dont see many people riding that mount. for an example instead of selling x100 mounts from 5k =500k crowns, eso can make it 2.500 crowns and 1.000 people would buy it 2.500.000 crowns.
If zos make anything furnished more than 15k crowns they will be on gaming websites headline like "greedy zos"
Guess we will have to wait and see. No real sense arguing, because again, its all speculation. Something to think about, we are really seeing an entire product line from ZOS for the first time. As others have suggested, there will be housing for any budget. I am sure you will be able to get a small or medium house for 5k crowns. That said, there are plenty of people that will happily spend a couple hundred dollars on house, and I am guessing ZOS will give them that opportunity.
It would be the height of stupidity on ZOSs part to make Manors easily affordable by everyone. They want different homes for different budget, just like any other product you can think of. They also want people to buy one house, out grow it and buy another. If Manors are 5k, the sales of the other homes would be non-existent.
As for people saying that people wont buy multiple crown packs, well two things. What is to stop them from increasing the size of the packs. Also, LOTS of people buy multiple packs of crowns when they go on sale. I have seen many posts of people complaining that their credit cards will start to decline the repeat purchases at like 10 packs or something ridiculous. Furthermore, there are stories and youtube videos of people dropping 50k+ crowns on crown crates. This will be no different.
Tavore1138 wrote: »Houses are not needed in game and ZoS have spent too much time creating this system to keep us busy saving, crafting and furnishing to let us shortcut it cheaply so for those thinking you will get a fully furnished manor for just over the price of a motif I suspect you are kidding yourself. They will not want people to bypass this system for the cost of a month of subs...
Personally I think small houses will start around 7-12k and manors in the 30-40k mark with the 'special' crown only ones even more - plus whatever they mark up for fully furnished versions. Judging by all the people with assistants, custom and atronach mounts there are plenty of us dropping quite a lot of money and they will be pitching these at higher spenders because they can make money off this without impacting on any gameplay mevhanics at all.
And if people want to drop £200 on a manor then ZoS will be happy to let them.
Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »No way in heck would someone spend 500$ irl for a mansion, just not going to happen ha. My guess around 50-60 for a manor at the most, 40$ at the least.
Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »No way in heck would someone spend 500$ irl for a mansion, just not going to happen ha. My guess around 50-60 for a manor at the most, 40$ at the least.
You're talking about a company who charges 4,500 Crown for a mount... is 10,000 or 15,000 Crown for the largest available house really that far out of the spectrum for the prices we've seen, especially since it's account wide? I don't think so. Remember the cost of 'assistants' that aren't even 'full service'... people went bonkers because of the pricing on those... and then came the 4,500 mount. No, I expect pretty high pricing for the larger homes.
Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »No way in heck would someone spend 500$ irl for a mansion, just not going to happen ha. My guess around 50-60 for a manor at the most, 40$ at the least.
You're talking about a company who charges 4,500 Crown for a mount... is 10,000 or 15,000 Crown for the largest available house really that far out of the spectrum for the prices we've seen, especially since it's account wide? I don't think so. Remember the cost of 'assistants' that aren't even 'full service'... people went bonkers because of the pricing on those... and then came the 4,500 mount. No, I expect pretty high pricing for the larger homes.
Star Citizen has several ships priced at $400 each or above, into the THOUSANDS that all sell out (Limited digital content) for a game that's not even released yet.
Star Citizen has several ships priced at $400 each or above, into the THOUSANDS that all sell out (Limited digital content) for a game that's not even released yet.
But those ships are tradeable, which means people are investing money now to resell to players who come later, for big dollars, especially the harder to get ships.
That's how those games work, people trade the high ticket "rares" then resell them later for a profit.
In ESO the houses/mounts/everything from Crown store are not tradeable. People will not be able to profit from reselling them later, so pricing high will not get the same response as in a game like Star Citizen (which is basically just an RMT selling game for a lot of people).
Prof_Bawbag wrote: »Star Citizen has several ships priced at $400 each or above, into the THOUSANDS that all sell out (Limited digital content) for a game that's not even released yet.
But those ships are tradeable, which means people are investing money now to resell to players who come later, for big dollars, especially the harder to get ships.
That's how those games work, people trade the high ticket "rares" then resell them later for a profit.
In ESO the houses/mounts/everything from Crown store are not tradeable. People will not be able to profit from reselling them later, so pricing high will not get the same response as in a game like Star Citizen (which is basically just an RMT selling game for a lot of people).
Yup, that's what i thought too. I went looking and everything that was insanely priced was set by the players and were tradable for real cash, not because the devs priced them so. The most obvious example being the original auction house in Diablo 3, where one weapon went for a crazy amount of real money, and we all know how that nearly ended for Blizzard.
Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »No way in heck would someone spend 500$ irl for a mansion, just not going to happen ha. My guess around 50-60 for a manor at the most, 40$ at the least.
You're talking about a company who charges 4,500 Crown for a mount... is 10,000 or 15,000 Crown for the largest available house really that far out of the spectrum for the prices we've seen, especially since it's account wide? I don't think so. Remember the cost of 'assistants' that aren't even 'full service'... people went bonkers because of the pricing on those... and then came the 4,500 mount. No, I expect pretty high pricing for the larger homes.
That is correct but how many bankers did you see in game so far? Really amount of elk mounts and bankers are so feeeww and its one time purchase. Zos doesnt care about you after you bought it. But with housing, buying a house ita just a start.
You know big houses have big space to put more furnitures right? So the person who bought biggest house will spend more to fill it up compered to medium house. So ofc zos will want lots of people to buy big houses i especially expect crown exclusives to be cheap. Manors comes with title. But crown exclusives exactly look lile bait. Like here exclusive island for 5k crowns. But if you want to fill it with furnitures it will cost maybe 10k crowns who knows.
No way they can't there going to price them selves out of sales .. while I honestly can't see how they can charge more than 5k crowns same as a dlc BUT it is ZOS .. they have to be careful though price it to high and there going to lose money otherwise why even offer it as a payed option rather than work for it then charge ridiculous crowns for it.. double edged sword ...then again if a company is going to fall on that so called sword it WILL be ZOS!You can bet a manor is going to cost a 100 plus at least.
I would say more around 200.
snakester320 wrote: »No way they can't there going to price them selves out of sales .. while I honestly can't see how they can charge more than 5k crowns same as a dlc BUT it is ZOS .. they have to be careful though price it to high and there going to lose money otherwise why even offer it as a payed option rather than work for it then charge ridiculous crowns for it.. double edged sword ...then again if a company is going to fall on that so called sword it WILL be ZOS!You can bet a manor is going to cost a 100 plus at least.
I would say more around 200.