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ESO PvP Sorcerer God 1v1s Emperor and 1vXs everyone In Cyrodiil
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glavius✭✭✭✭✭KisoValley wrote: »Ok
I can observe the following from watching last part of the video:
He is using 1 piece heavy, seen from the constitution ticks every 4 seconds, giving abit less than 200 stamina and magicka back. This means that if he is using Meridia set, he has 3 jewelry (healthy trait), staff and 1 armor piece.
He has about 1700 stamina recovery.
He has about 2100 magicka recovery.
He has 39,4k magicka
He has 14,4k stamina
Now I haven't tested Meridia set yet to see if it actually looks like a dodge on the recieving end.
But tell me how the above stats are possible??
Lol. The magicka/stamina is from tri food and 5/1/1. It's not difficult. The regen? You're false on those numbers (mainly the magicka). The setup he has been using the most recently (although he does use different setups in the video in each clip AFAIK) is a standard setup 2x undaunted, 5x set and 3x jewellery. His magicka regen is from dark conversion, so he doesn't have 2.1k magicka regen and I'm pretty sure he doesn't have 1.7k stamina regen, but it may be close to that number. So the question is, if he's using dark conversion to sustain magicka, how is he sustaining stam?
It's pretty simple.
I watched the vid at 0.25 speed. Stamina goes up 1686 every 2 seconds in the last fight. Plus constitution passive at 186 every 4 seconds. Since he is most likely using master resto, maelstrom destro, 3 willpower and 5 x unknown set and probably tristat food like you mentioned, how does he reach 1686 stam recovery? And why does he keep dodging with no dodge set bonus and no dodge skill. (when he doesnt dodge roll)
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✭✭✭✭✭KisoValley wrote: »Ok
I can observe the following from watching last part of the video:
He is using 1 piece heavy, seen from the constitution ticks every 4 seconds, giving abit less than 200 stamina and magicka back. This means that if he is using Meridia set, he has 3 jewelry (healthy trait), staff and 1 armor piece.
He has about 1700 stamina recovery.
He has about 2100 magicka recovery.
He has 39,4k magicka
He has 14,4k stamina
Now I haven't tested Meridia set yet to see if it actually looks like a dodge on the recieving end.
But tell me how the above stats are possible??
Lol. The magicka/stamina is from tri food and 5/1/1. It's not difficult. The regen? You're false on those numbers (mainly the magicka). The setup he has been using the most recently (although he does use different setups in the video in each clip AFAIK) is a standard setup 2x undaunted, 5x set and 3x jewellery. His magicka regen is from dark conversion, so he doesn't have 2.1k magicka regen and I'm pretty sure he doesn't have 1.7k stamina regen, but it may be close to that number. So the question is, if he's using dark conversion to sustain magicka, how is he sustaining stam?
It's pretty simple.
I watched the vid at 0.25 speed. Stamina goes up 1686 every 2 seconds in the last fight. Plus constitution passive at 186 every 4 seconds. Since he is most likely using master resto, maelstrom destro, 3 willpower and 5 x unknown set and probably tristat food like you mentioned, how does he reach 1686 stam recovery? And why does he keep dodging with no dodge set bonus and no dodge skill. (when he doesnt dodge roll)
Anyone saying he doesnt cheat is in denial..
Just equip amberplasm get resource buff and drink a tripot. Poof 1590 stamrec. Different CP allocation and ~1700 is easily reachable.<Noricum>
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✭Serjustin19 wrote: »Ahh my mistake. Still, he sure is using the hist bark exploit. That alone makes him a cheater.
I'm confused. No offense. Is it not ZOS fault for accidentally making exploit(s) and or glitches and or bringing them back? No offense ZOS. No offense to you to.
Also I am unaware of this so called exploit. No offense again. However what does it do? I thought all armors are created the same way. Well almost. I mean damage and or not.
Also. No I am not wearing hist bark or any crafted armor. However I am wearing phoneix and transmutation set. So I wouldn't know what I am supposed to look for. No offense.
Last but not the least. I believe anyone is innocent until proven guilty. That goes for same way on ESO. However if you or anyone truly believes someone is cheating. Submit it to ZOS on your respective platform(s) for example mine is PS4.
Let ZOS decide if the person who is or is not guilty. (Depends on ZOS honestly, but no one else's) If ZOS deemed the person is guilty. Then let it be so. Sadly. What about those who are unaware of these cheats and exploits. Just like me. It is also extremely unfair others get banned for ZOS mistakes. No offense.
It is ZOS's fault for leaving exploits in the game, it's the player's fault for using them.
This exploit requires an active action from the player who very well knows that he is trying to achieve something unintended by the devs in order to gain an unfair advantage. In this case getting a free 20% dodge chance.
Everyone is innocent, until proven guilty by posting a video of themself using the exploit.
Haven't watched the video, being at work, I dunno if exploit there is. No offense
There's no exploit, I've clearly explained in the thread what's happening in the "suspicious" parts of the video in great detail. He's not exploiting hist bark. I don't even like Faso because of his ties to German, as petty as that may sound, but I've seen the video and it took all of 5 minutes of looking at item sets to figure out what was going on, he's only dodging attacks from 1 target and only in a 5 second window and its ALWAYS triggered by block. When you watch the video the first time it looks weird as hell, but when you watch it and keep in mind the mechanics of the set he's wearing, its totally logical.
People(not you etaniel) really need to stop accusing people of cheating just because they're too dumb to spend 5 minutes looking at a list of sets and figuring out if there's a mechanic in game that creates the effect they believe to be cheating. In this case, its obviously not cheating and everyone on here that accused Faso should be embarrassed and ashamed, this is an absolute joke.
Has nothing to do with the video, has to do with facts and the words out of his own mouth. I didnt even watch the video, has nothing to do with being "too dumb," just as I stopped watching Germans videos because well "once a blank, always a blank."
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✭✭✭✭Atleast it´s pretty simple to rule out both meridia and spectres eye as a reason for dodging
Its obviously meridia @Derra
Meridia doesn't proc an effect on your character, it procs on the opponent, if you go back and watch the mageblade that tries to gank him during the 1v1 or the templar who stops to res you can see the swirls around their head, the old sparks animation.
Also, meridia shows dodge on your screen the opponent sees missed
edit: I only came back to this thread because I've got so many salty messages in my inbox because people won't test meridia
In the 7:53 clip, He's wearing 5 meridia (1 armor, 3 jewels, resto), this allows him to wear a 5 piece on his destro bar and still have 2 pirate king. The blocking only procs meridia on a specific bar(this makes the most sense because it allows you to try to pick the target that gets blinded) and the clips in question about his higher stam regen show 0 "suspicious" dodging.
He's obviously wearing different sets in all of the clips, don't try to pigeonhole his regen from 1 clip into the sets he's wearing in another.Edited by Lexxypwns on January 18, 2017 7:12PM1 -
glavius✭✭✭✭✭Atleast it´s pretty simple to rule out both meridia and spectres eye as a reason for dodging
Its obviously meridia @Derra
Meridia doesn't proc an effect on your character, it procs on the opponent, if you go back and watch the mageblade that tries to gank him during the 1v1 or the templar who stops to res you can see the swirls around their head, the old sparks animation.
Also, meridia shows dodge on your screen the opponent sees missed
edit: I only came back to this thread because I've got so many salty messages in my inbox because people won't test meridia
In the 7:53 clip, He's wearing 5 meridia (1 armor, 3 jewels, resto), this allows him to wear a 5 piece on his destro bar and still have 2 pirate king. The blocking only procs meridia on a specific bar(this makes the most sense because it allows you to try to pick the target that gets blinded) and the clips in question about his higher stam regen show 0 "suspicious" dodging.
He's obviously wearing different sets in all of the clips, don't try to pigeonhole his regen from 1 clip into the sets he's wearing in another.
He has 1686 stam recovery in the last fight, same fight you're talking about. So if he is wearing what you say, no room for amberplasm. Also his pots have spell dmg buff, so no room for any 20% stam recovery from that.
I'm 99% sure that the explanation is he found a way to bug out a 5 set bonus. And is either using this with 5 x amberplasm, 2x skeleton, 3 x willpower, tristat food and master resto and maelstrom/master destro. Or he is using something like CE to boost his regens with meridias equipped.1 -
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Doesn't histbark have a visible effect as well, or is that not how hackusations work in ESO? Then again animations in this game are broken in general.0 -
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Doesn't histbark have a visible effect as well, or is that not how hackusations work in ESO? Then again animations in this game are broken in general.
Histbark does not show anything when you bug it
Edit: Before anyone asks: Yes i have tested it myself. No i don´t use it in pvp. I try to reproduce every bug i hear about and when i can do that reliably i report it alongside how to reproduce it.Edited by Derra on January 18, 2017 8:35PM<Noricum>
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Xinthisis✭✭✭✭Malamar1229 wrote: »just like the few who swore by Blix being innocent, rofl.
btw i had meridias on an alt a few months ago and i am 99% sure the screen message is "missed" not "dodged" but wtf do i know after playing sorc since beta, im "too dumb..."
im usually pretty reserved and quiet in game, keeping to myself as I solo play. Im sure there are plenty of cheaters still in game, and I am sure I have died to a few of them. But I am not constantly coming to these forums to rage about it, not sure if Lexxys comment directed at me or not, however when videos are constantly being posted by some of these guys, then yeah I think new players, maybe players looking for help, etc should get a little heads up of the legitimacy.
I could have believed there was bugs and broken sets they were using that never got fixed, however when I saw them sitting in slaughterfish getting healed back to full health somehow I knew it was CE.
Glad they quit or were banned after shield breaker was introduced.0 -
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Doesn't histbark have a visible effect as well, or is that not how hackusations work in ESO? Then again animations in this game are broken in general.
Histbark does not show anything when you bug it
Edit: Before anyone asks: Yes i have tested it myself. No i don´t use it in pvp. I try to reproduce every bug i hear about and when i can do that reliably i report it alongside how to reproduce it.
Then why was everyone including yourself accusing me of bugging out histbark because the histbark animation was bugged on my character in the tanking vid?0 -
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✭✭✭✭Malamar1229 wrote: »just like the few who swore by Blix being innocent, rofl.
btw i had meridias on an alt a few months ago and i am 99% sure the screen message is "missed" not "dodged" but wtf do i know after playing sorc since beta, im "too dumb..."
im usually pretty reserved and quiet in game, keeping to myself as I solo play. Im sure there are plenty of cheaters still in game, and I am sure I have died to a few of them. But I am not constantly coming to these forums to rage about it, not sure if Lexxys comment directed at me or not, however when videos are constantly being posted by some of these guys, then yeah I think new players, maybe players looking for help, etc should get a little heads up of the legitimacy.
I could have believed there was bugs and broken sets they were using that never got fixed, however when I saw them sitting in slaughterfish getting healed back to full health somehow I knew it was CE.
Glad they quit or were banned after shield breaker was introduced.
Blinx used a bug involving mist form and costumes allowing you to get the damage mitigation of mist form while receiving heals and having access to your skill bars. I'm not saying that CE wasn't also involved, because how can we tell, but I am saying that he definitely used the dark seducer costume to bug out mist form damage mitigation. That's why he and bishop of souls were so hard to kill but never had any real offensive output. Likely, had he been using CE to so blatantly exploit mitigation he would have tuned some offensive stats as well.Edited by Lexxypwns on January 18, 2017 8:39PM2 -
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✭✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »
Pretty much the thread in a nutshell.
Obvious is obvious, regardless of the nonsense arguments created to somehow "explain" it.
Anyways, they only use these video threads to try and trick people into giving them 50k gold to "join" their "guild".
The question:
If you have a barrel of 4 bad apples and you had to pick one, which would it be: The one that was already spoiled and replaced, the one you see running around dodging everything you throw at him all day and every day, the one who has one of the other bad apples do the talking for him or the one that talks for all the other bad apples?It's a trick question; the real answer is you throw the whole barrel in the river and if the apples float they are witch apples and if the apples don't float...well, everyone is better off.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I demand a trial by fire for the witch apples.<Noricum>
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✭✭✭I'm really confused why we are having this "surely he isn't exploiting hist bark" discussion when trying to "sell" the hist bark exploit to people for 300k is literally something that got him temp banned a couple weeks ago.
I'm not trying to imply anything about his skill as a player, just stating the facts. So would someone like to offer a good explaination?Edited by HoloYoitsu on January 19, 2017 12:56AM9 -
KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭HoloYoitsu wrote: »I'm really confused why we are having this "surely he isn't exploiting hist bark" discussion when trying to "sell" the hist bark exploit to people for 300k is literally something that got him temp banned a couple weeks ago.
I'm not trying to imply anything about his skill as a player, just stating the facts. So would someone like to offer a good explaination?
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I don't see why anyone would given how other people who knew about it were already talking about it, not to mention PTS patch notes claimed to have fixed it.KisoValley wrote: »HoloYoitsu wrote: »I'm really confused why we are having this "surely he isn't exploiting hist bark" discussion when trying to "sell" the hist bark exploit to people for 300k is literally something that got him temp banned a couple weeks ago.
I'm not trying to imply anything about his skill as a player, just stating the facts. So would someone like to offer a good explaination?
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LegendaryChef✭✭✭✭✭Faso = NA version of The Wise Mage??Atleast it´s pretty simple to rule out both meridia and spectres eye as a reason for dodging
Its obviously meridia @Derra
Meridia doesn't proc an effect on your character, it procs on the opponent, if you go back and watch the mageblade that tries to gank him during the 1v1 or the templar who stops to res you can see the swirls around their head, the old sparks animation.
Also, meridia shows dodge on your screen the opponent sees missed
edit: I only came back to this thread because I've got so many salty messages in my inbox because people won't test meridia
In the 7:53 clip, He's wearing 5 meridia (1 armor, 3 jewels, resto), this allows him to wear a 5 piece on his destro bar and still have 2 pirate king. The blocking only procs meridia on a specific bar(this makes the most sense because it allows you to try to pick the target that gets blinded) and the clips in question about his higher stam regen show 0 "suspicious" dodging.
He's obviously wearing different sets in all of the clips, don't try to pigeonhole his regen from 1 clip into the sets he's wearing in another.
I thought you were right about Merida until I rewatched it but in the last clip at around 7m 50s he dodged attacks from 2 different players which therefor rules out your theory as it should only blind 1 single player for 5 seconds, unless the set is bugged.Edited by LegendaryChef on January 19, 2017 7:40AMZzoro/Elliot Brown/Baldy ~Kitesquad/Noricum~
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KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭LegendaryChef wrote: »Faso = NA version of The Wise Mage??Atleast it´s pretty simple to rule out both meridia and spectres eye as a reason for dodging
Its obviously meridia @Derra
Meridia doesn't proc an effect on your character, it procs on the opponent, if you go back and watch the mageblade that tries to gank him during the 1v1 or the templar who stops to res you can see the swirls around their head, the old sparks animation.
Also, meridia shows dodge on your screen the opponent sees missed
edit: I only came back to this thread because I've got so many salty messages in my inbox because people won't test meridia
In the 7:53 clip, He's wearing 5 meridia (1 armor, 3 jewels, resto), this allows him to wear a 5 piece on his destro bar and still have 2 pirate king. The blocking only procs meridia on a specific bar(this makes the most sense because it allows you to try to pick the target that gets blinded) and the clips in question about his higher stam regen show 0 "suspicious" dodging.
He's obviously wearing different sets in all of the clips, don't try to pigeonhole his regen from 1 clip into the sets he's wearing in another.
I thought you were right about Merida until I rewatched it but in the last clip at around 7m 50s he dodged attacks from 2 different players which therefor rules out your theory as it should only blind 1 single player for 5 seconds, unless the set is bugged.
There are quite a few sets I've tested that are bugged and aren't doing what they should be. I haven't tested Meridia but I wouldn't be surprised if that is the case.0 -
Xinthisis✭✭✭✭The funniest part about this thread is the same people who were claiming exploits on my dk thread are claiming it here with different circumstances and "proof".
Also, about Faso getting banned. We heard a bug with dodge chance existed, and that it was histbark. Didn't know how exactly at the time but Faso in his Highflying mind due to surgery pain meds thought it would be funny to whisper people asking to sell a bug we didn't even know how to do at the time. It was a dumb idea for sure, and he was banned. We ended up bartering with the devs giving them a few bugs (Ones that we've already reported but got no response on. As usual) and they unbanned him, took all his gold, and told him they would monitor his account.
All in all it was a joke that went to far. What I really find funny is that I'm willing to bet most of the pitchfork wielding folks have or are currently using the histbug while crying wolf. It's really quite amusing.
BTW @HoloYoitsu who told you about Faso's situation anyway?0 -
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