You mean like being able to dodge jesus beam and other undodgeables as well? If so then yes for sure I would take that.

I think they should just make it 1 Guaranteed dodge every 5 seconds.

Ignoring the fact that dodge chance should be unnecessary in a game with active dodge mechanics...

The passive dodge mechanics in this game feel simplistic and unfinished from a pvp perspective. First looking at the unfinished aspect, there should be a way to reduce your opponent's dodge chance. If you could actually counter major evasion by reducing an enemies dodge chance it would not feel as unfun to play against as it currently does because it gives agency to the player who has to combat someone passively dodging.

As for my comment about the dodge chance being too simplistic, imo their should be a dodge rating and an accuracy rating. This adds another element of mitigation alongside resistance and crit reduction. If the game is balanced around these ratings it would be harder for people to get super tanky and have high dps as they have to factor in another form of mitigation which would detract from their damage. Likewise dps would have to factor in accuracy to make sure they do damage consistently and (factoring in lower mitigation values with a system like this implemented) would probably also want a decent amount of dodge chance for survival. Adding more levers to how people can consistently put forth high amounts of damage makes it harder to burst people, while having great sustain and high defenses.

There are a few "downsides" to the rating system. ZOS doesn't like to separate their PVP and PVE. To work optimally, the dodge rating system would require monsters to have levels so ratings can be adjusted based on monster level and relative to player level. Higher level monsters require higher accuracy which can be passively achieved through gaining levels. Unfortunately ZOS also doesn't like tried and true leveling progression(and I'm not just referring to MMOs). They either make a system that's an arduous grind(vet ranks) and significantly slows down players from learning about the most fun aspects of the game or they make a system where a character leveling up actually makes the character weaker(hello one tamriel and battle leveling) which is asinine but that's another rage post for another day.

The worst part about it is that I think ZOS would be fully capable of correctly implementing a dodge rating system based on how they have handled other rating systems in the game. However it would require overhaul of the entire mitigation system as none of the game is designed to take into account chance to miss being a core part of gameplay(as opposed to a way of briefly increasing mitigation like it currently is). Still if this were implemented it would be another lever to deal with pvp balance as you can separate ratings requirements for dealing with players and monsters. Through simply leveling, pve players would be able to deal with high level monsters without worrying about accuracy and even getting some leeway through dodge chance while pvp players would have to take accuracy into account given the higher dodge rating max level players would have. As far as solutions that could be implemented within the confines of this game, major evasion should be significantly shorter(3 seconds) with 100 percent chance to dodge single target attacks so the player has to make the active choice to certain moves. The buff should be stamina based so it can be affected by unchained and magicka classes can actually utilize unchained and reduce the need for roll dodge.

TL;DR: Everything I wrote is irrelevant because passive dodge chance should not be necessary in a game with active dodge abilities to begin with

If it means not seeing the word "Dodged" on my screen so much then I'm for it.

Just make it so 5pc light is required for annulment, 5pc med required for shuffle and heavy has no access to annulment and shuffle.

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

If it means not seeing the word "Dodged" on my screen so much then I'm for it.

If you do it'll be because someone used a brain cell, and consciously reacted to your attack, and not because of rotten luck

I get the feeling that them's fightin' words.

I hate Evasion as much as anyone, but I'm not crazy about the OP solution because active dodge should only be a counter to specific types of attacks but ineffective against others, such as AoE, beams (ZOS has actually reached a pretty decent balance on this IMO). Passive dodge should NOT be a thing at all though, it's pretty frustrating that we have to deal with it.

Plenty of people disagreed with my solution too, but here it is for anyone who is interested:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/311097/change-the-evasion-buff-to-deflection/p1