“Mini Events“ while questing - what's the point?

Seraphayel · January 2017

Hey there,

my question is in the title. What's the point of those mini events happening around zones? Citizens getting robbed, sorcerers battling, summoners calling for Daedra etc. - I really like those things because the make the world a bit more immersive but do they have a point?

I mean, those Summoners are opening a portal for Daedra and when I killed them they're saying “thank you“ - what? You actually summoned them and now you are happy I killed them? Hahaha.

Sometimes there are even NPCs with which you can interact, a man in Glenumbra that was searching for something in a grave and came to me begging for gold. I gave him some money and then he continued robbing that grave - do they have any greater meaning?

starkerealm · January 2017

The last one sounds like one of the beggar encounters. There's 15 of them, and they unlock an achievement. There's also two characters arguing over an unlit campfire, and a merchant standing behind a horse you can shake down who have their own achievements, and appear in all 15 base alliance zones.

The summoners lose control of the daedra they call. So you are rescuing them. But, those encounters just pay out some extra XP when finished. Same with the bandits attacking a merchant and a few others.

The mages attacking each other is just theater.

There's also some other random encounters that either link to achievements or are just there for flavor.

UrQuan · January 2017

Seraphayel wrote: »

Hey there,

my question is in the title. What's the point of those mini events happening around zones? Citizens getting robbed, sorcerers battling, summoners calling for Daedra etc. - I really like those things because the make the world a bit more immersive but do they have a point?

The bold part is the point. You also get a bit of XP from them beyond the XP you would get for killing anything there, but the point is really just immersion.

Seraphayel wrote: »

I mean, those Summoners are opening a portal for Daedra and when I killed them they're saying “thank you“ - what? You actually summoned them and now you are happy I killed them? Hahaha.

It's the old trope of summoners getting in over their heads and calling forth something that they can't control. They thank you for saving them.

Seraphayel wrote: »

Sometimes there are even NPCs with which you can interact, a man in Glenumbra that was searching for something in a grave and came to me begging for gold. I gave him some money and then he continued robbing that grave - do they have any greater meaning?

That one is part of an achievement. The same goes for the one with a couple of people arguing about a campfire that they can't get started, the one with a merchant standing on the side of the road with a horse, and of course M'aiq. For each of those there's an achievement for finding them and interacting with them in all 15 alliance zones (the M'aiq achievement also extends to 1 starter zone per alliance).

The achievements are:

Give to the Poor (this is the one you mentioned - you need to give money to people like the one you describe in all 15 zones)
Crime Pays (this is with the merchants standing beside horses - you need to intimidate them to steal their wares)
Lightbringer (this is with people arguing over an unlit campfire - you need to light their campfires)
I Like M'aiq (this is with M'aiq obviously - you just need to talk to him in all the zones)

Wrothgar has its own random mini-events that are different from the ones you find in the base game zones, some of which are just for flavour and immersion, and some of which are for achievements.

imnotanother · January 2017

No point besides XP. I remember when I first started how hard some of them were to complete.

UrQuan · January 2017

starkerealm wrote: »

The mages attacking each other is just theater.

If you attack one of them they'll both attack you, saying that you shouldn't have interfered with their duel. There's a very similar random mini-event in Wrothgar, except instead of 2 different types of mages (because I've noticed that the mage duel is always between mages using different elements from each other) it's between, um, I think a hunter and a farmer? Something like that anyway.

Seraphayel · January 2017

@UrQuan thank you very much, very insightful!

UrQuan · January 2017

Seraphayel wrote: »

@UrQuan thank you very much, very insightful!

I actually really like these little mini-events, and I wish there were more of them (as in: more variety). I feel like they add a lot to the game.

kevlarto_ESO · January 2017

Makes the world feel alive, I like things going on as I travel.

MLGProPlayer · January 2017

UrQuan wrote: »

except instead of 2 different types of mages (because I've noticed that the mage duel is always between mages using different elements from each other)

I've seen the same type of mages dueling before. I even took a screenshot of one such encounter, but it's burried in 5000 images right now. Not sure if it's a bug, but it happens.

UrQuan · January 2017

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

except instead of 2 different types of mages (because I've noticed that the mage duel is always between mages using different elements from each other)

I've seen the same type of mages dueling before. I even took a screenshot of one such encounter, but it's burried in 5000 images right now. Not sure if it's a bug, but it happens.

Really? Dang, I've never ever seen that...

Seraphayel · January 2017

Haha isn't it always Pyromancer vs. Cryomancer and afterwards a random Sorcerer pops up?

anitajoneb17_ESO · January 2017

Yes, it's made to make the environment more alive and the illusion of "time". Just like the critters and wildlife, day/night rotation, wandering merchants, weather changes, and.... I thinks that's pretty much it. Without them, the world would feel completely static.

There are also "other players" but imho they don't "blend" very well with the world, mostly because they're running everywhere too fast.

Ourorboros · January 2017

If you are on a PC, a few addons can help with the achievement. Destinations shows the locations for world events that have achievements. Kindler Beggar Liar Thief tracks which of these you have completed in each zone. The latter is handy because the events are random and also are on a timer (30 min IIRC). Each time you interact with any one of the events, it resets the timer, so you have to wait before you will see another. It's worth repeating that the timer resets for all of the world events, so if you are chasing achievements, you will not want to interact with the non-achievement events or you reset the timer.

starkerealm · January 2017

UrQuan wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

The mages attacking each other is just theater.

If you attack one of them they'll both attack you, saying that you shouldn't have interfered with their duel. There's a very similar random mini-event in Wrothgar, except instead of 2 different types of mages (because I've noticed that the mage duel is always between mages using different elements from each other) it's between, um, I think a hunter and a farmer? Something like that anyway.

There's at least four random encounters in Wrothgar. One's a pair of orcs (I've seen hunters, mostly, though farmers to pop up occasionally), fighting over some dispute, and mentioning the code of Malacath when they start brawling. There's an older female orc enjoying a beer (or, something), who will let you have a swig (and a thirty minute stat buff) if you pay her. There's another one where you'll encounter an orc who wants you to kill him, so he can die in battle. Finally, there's the tax collector. The last two have their own achievements. There's also, probably, a few more I'm not remembering.

UrQuan · January 2017

starkerealm wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

The mages attacking each other is just theater.

If you attack one of them they'll both attack you, saying that you shouldn't have interfered with their duel. There's a very similar random mini-event in Wrothgar, except instead of 2 different types of mages (because I've noticed that the mage duel is always between mages using different elements from each other) it's between, um, I think a hunter and a farmer? Something like that anyway.

There's at least four random encounters in Wrothgar. One's a pair of orcs (I've seen hunters, mostly, though farmers to pop up occasionally), fighting over some dispute, and mentioning the code of Malacath when they start brawling. There's an older female orc enjoying a beer (or, something), who will let you have a swig (and a thirty minute stat buff) if you pay her. There's another one where you'll encounter an orc who wants you to kill him, so he can die in battle. Finally, there's the tax collector. The last two have their own achievements. There's also, probably, a few more I'm not remembering.

The only other one that comes to mind in Wrothgar is a priest of Trinimac (at least I think it's Trinimac - maybe it's a priest of Malacath... or maybe either is possible) who will give you a blessing.

Marabornwingrion · January 2017

Random encounters like this makes the game feel more "alive".

Like in real life when you can meet some random people or situations on your way.

Ourorboros · January 2017

UrQuan wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

The mages attacking each other is just theater.

If you attack one of them they'll both attack you, saying that you shouldn't have interfered with their duel. There's a very similar random mini-event in Wrothgar, except instead of 2 different types of mages (because I've noticed that the mage duel is always between mages using different elements from each other) it's between, um, I think a hunter and a farmer? Something like that anyway.

There's at least four random encounters in Wrothgar. One's a pair of orcs (I've seen hunters, mostly, though farmers to pop up occasionally), fighting over some dispute, and mentioning the code of Malacath when they start brawling. There's an older female orc enjoying a beer (or, something), who will let you have a swig (and a thirty minute stat buff) if you pay her. There's another one where you'll encounter an orc who wants you to kill him, so he can die in battle. Finally, there's the tax collector. The last two have their own achievements. There's also, probably, a few more I'm not remembering.

The only other one that comes to mind in Wrothgar is a priest of Trinimac (at least I think it's Trinimac - maybe it's a priest of Malacath... or maybe either is possible) who will give you a blessing.

It's both. IIRC you get a different blessing from each.

UrQuan · January 2017

Astrid_V wrote: »

Random encounters like this makes the game feel more "alive".

Like in real life when you can meet some random people or situations on your way.

Yeah, but any time I try to start a fire for people in real life they're not grateful like they are in ESO. Instead they usually yell things like "What the hell are you doing?" and "You're banned from Home Depot!"

starkerealm · January 2017

UrQuan wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

The mages attacking each other is just theater.

If you attack one of them they'll both attack you, saying that you shouldn't have interfered with their duel. There's a very similar random mini-event in Wrothgar, except instead of 2 different types of mages (because I've noticed that the mage duel is always between mages using different elements from each other) it's between, um, I think a hunter and a farmer? Something like that anyway.

There's at least four random encounters in Wrothgar. One's a pair of orcs (I've seen hunters, mostly, though farmers to pop up occasionally), fighting over some dispute, and mentioning the code of Malacath when they start brawling. There's an older female orc enjoying a beer (or, something), who will let you have a swig (and a thirty minute stat buff) if you pay her. There's another one where you'll encounter an orc who wants you to kill him, so he can die in battle. Finally, there's the tax collector. The last two have their own achievements. There's also, probably, a few more I'm not remembering.

The only other one that comes to mind in Wrothgar is a priest of Trinimac (at least I think it's Trinimac - maybe it's a priest of Malacath... or maybe either is possible) who will give you a blessing.

Yeah, that's another one. I think you need an intimidate check to get him to bless you. Fun stuff.

starkerealm · January 2017

Ourorboros wrote: »

If you are on a PC, a few addons can help with the achievement. Destinations shows the locations for world events that have achievements. Kindler Beggar Liar Thief tracks which of these you have completed in each zone. The latter is handy because the events are random and also are on a timer (30 min IIRC). Each time you interact with any one of the events, it resets the timer, so you have to wait before you will see another. It's worth repeating that the timer resets for all of the world events, so if you are chasing achievements, you will not want to interact with the non-achievement events or you reset the timer.

Amusingly M'aiq is not affected by that timer at all. It's possible (in a few places) to force him to spawn with a little persistence.

Browiseth · January 2017

xp and stuff

nine9six · January 2017

I like hearing the person call for help and then confess "they made me do it!"

ArchMikem · January 2017

Helping couples with their campfire also gives you a temporary minor boost to one of your resource pools.

starkerealm · January 2017

ArchMikem wrote: »

Helping couples with their campfire also gives you a temporary minor boost to one of your resource pools.

It's Stamina, for 30 minutes.

TheShadowScout · January 2017

The mages duel is fun, youz can just stand and watch them, go afk while they battle it out to get a new cup of teea, and will get XP for being a spectator.

The summoned daedra is annoying, I always want to feed the summoner to the beastie, but that never seems to happen... wish there was a time limit to save that one before their bubble pops, and if you don't... you get to see the results of inept daedra summonings...

The merchant intimidate... well, I kinda wish they had updated that one with the justice system, and mark all you take from them as "stolen". Also make it something worth taking, not just some stuff like what drops from any trash mob... the encounter is rare enough that they might as well have something nifty.

M'aiq is a special case BtW. All the other random encounters happen in their spots, so one time you may meet a beggar by that bridge, and next week a timid merchant, and the month after that some inept firestarters... but m'aiq is always in one of three seperate spots on each map. And yeah, if you find him on every map... achievment and dye unlock.