Better idea for blocking with magicka?

Amorpho · January 2017

I don't know about you guys, but I am not very excited about the change to Ice-staff passives, for 3 main reasons:
1. It just makes no sense for a staff to block just as well as a shield - it just goes against all MMO logic
2. MMO logic would require ice passive effects to be slowing down and snaring
3. We won't be able to run two 5-pieces sets as well as a complete undaunted set at the same time anymore
Rather, why not create a glyph that can only be applied to shields that enables you to consume magicka when you block? Or at least an optional passive in your shield skill line that enables you to do the same?

Tryxus · January 2017

How about just seperating the 3 staves into different weapon with each having their own skills and passives?

And make the blocking animation look more magical: Wall of Ice, being covered in Crystal Armor, blizzard around the blocker,...

Gandrhulf_Harbard · January 2017

Tryxus wrote: »

How about just seperating the 3 staves into different weapon with each having their own skills and passives?

And make the blocking animation look more magical: Wall of Ice, being covered in Crystal Armor, blizzard around the blocker,...

Yeah, as you hold the Ice Staff horizontal to block and "shield of ice" could form on the front of it. As it blocks splinters of ice could break off.

Although I do quite like idea of Staff + Shield. The ONLY time a Staff is used 2 handed is to block, the rest of the time it is in effect a 1 handed weapon, so just add Shield in there.

All The Best

runagate · January 2017

How about kittens with onions on their head?

Kinda surprised there was a picture of that when I googled it.

Knootewoot · January 2017

Worked for Gandalf, although he fell and also used a sword and staff

Gandrhulf_Harbard · January 2017

Knootewoot wrote: »

Worked for Gandalf, although he fell and also used a sword and staff

My LOTRO main is a Loremaster. Sword and Staff is just brilliant.

All The Best

DannyLV702 · January 2017

runagate wrote: »

How about kittens with onions on their head?

Kinda surprised there was a picture of that when I googled it.

You have my vote

Gandrhulf_Harbard · January 2017

And my sword.

All The Best

Amorpho · January 2017

Tryxus wrote: »

How about just seperating the 3 staves into different weapon with each having their own skills and passives?

And make the blocking animation look more magical: Wall of Ice, being covered in Crystal Armor, blizzard around the blocker,...

I actually thought about that one as well. Certainly makes more sense

stevepdodson_ESO888 · January 2017

runagate wrote: »

How about kittens with onions on their head?

Kinda surprised there was a picture of that when I googled it.

the bigger question should be...why on earth would you want to google that in the first place

Wizball1987 · January 2017

Make staff's 1hand

Ankael07 · January 2017

A lot of things in ESO doesnt make sense in a traditional MMO way. Like being able to equip all kinds of weapons with every class. Lets not be quick to judge how this will effect overall balance without testing in PTS or live servers.

Narvuntien · January 2017

It would be fine if there was an ice staff special block animation:
You cast a shield made out of ice when blocking with an ice staff, instead of the shield picture that pops up.

It seems find to me to have this option, Ice staffs were really lacking.

Splitting the destruction staffs into three different trees might be a good option and I suspect that they were but they couldn't think of enough skills and passives for staffs.

KochDerDamonen · January 2017

"Because MMO logic" = worthless point, adds nothing to the conversation other than traditionalist v.s. new things

I absolutely love the idea of making frost staves into a tank/control weapon, but think that the implementation on the pts isn't good enough.

Visually, I agree and think that the staff should form some icey barrier or shield while blocking.

Mechanically, I think the concept of using Magicka to block is fine but it would be nicer if it were 50/50 between the resources. Taunt on full heavy is awful and should be moved to destructive touch (morph w/ additional effects based on element?). Replace the moved taunt in the passives with a stat up that allows the damage rating of your frost staff to also be an armor rating, this would still be weaker than a real shield because no CP passive or reinforced available.

bebynnag · January 2017

ice staves are DESTRUCTION staves

they are supposed to cause destruction, ie DAMAGE

i agree a kitten with an onion on its head would make a more appropriate tanking tool that an ice staff!

Gandrhulf_Harbard · January 2017

puffytheslayer wrote: »

ice staves are DESTRUCTION staves

they are supposed to cause destruction, ie DAMAGE

i agree a kitten with an onion on its head would make a more appropriate tanking tool that an ice staff!

I suggest you read the Natch Potes.

Ice Staves are becoming Tanking weapons.

All The Best

MEBengalsFan2001 · January 2017

Amorpho wrote: »

I don't know about you guys, but I am not very excited about the change to Ice-staff passives, for 3 main reasons:
1. It just makes no sense for a staff to block just as well as a shield - it just goes against all MMO logic
2. MMO logic would require ice passive effects to be slowing down and snaring
3. We won't be able to run two 5-pieces sets as well as a complete undaunted set at the same time anymore
Rather, why not create a glyph that can only be applied to shields that enables you to consume magicka when you block? Or at least an optional passive in your shield skill line that enables you to do the same?

How about a passive skill in the Mage Guild line...