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What about raids?
darkllord
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What do you think of it? I think even veteran dungeons are fairly easy and sometimes you don´t even notice, that you are in vet dungeon until finals boss. And even there - just few of them are really challenging. Mostly it is just DPS check. What about 8 or 12 man version of all existing dungeons, that will be more difficult and challenging with better rewards, maybe gold items drops. Of course, we have trials, but there is just few of them. What do you think about this?
Edited by darkllord on January 13, 2017 7:46AM What about raids? 77 votes
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Jimbullbee85✭✭✭✭YESYup I'd love to see some larger raids. I agree. Being in larger groups is fun but limited to a small number of trials. Some 8 man dungeons would be a nice addition to PVE.Jimbullbee, Templar healer battlemage1
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SublimeSparo✭✭✭✭✭So you acknowledge trials exist as 12 man content, but then want 12man content... you got me, i'm baffled afPS4 EU CP900. PS4 NA CP600,
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My initial response as well, hence why I haven't voted. OP basically wants more trials.SublimeSparo wrote: »So you acknowledge trials exist as 12 man content, but then want 12man content... you got me, i'm baffled af
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darkllord✭✭✭YESSublimeSparo wrote: »So you acknowledge trials exist as 12 man content, but then want 12man content... you got me, i'm baffled af
Maybe you can´t read or comprehend written text.
So one more extra for you.
Yes I know, that there are trials, but there is just few of them. I dont find it entertaining to run four instancec over and over again.1 -
SublimeSparo✭✭✭✭✭SublimeSparo wrote: »So you acknowledge trials exist as 12 man content, but then want 12man content... you got me, i'm baffled af
Maybe you can´t read or comprehend written text.
So one more extra for you.
Yes I know, that there are trials, but there is just few of them. I dont find it entertaining to run four instancec over and over again.
So you want more trials...PS4 EU CP900. PS4 NA CP600,
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Nord Sparo - Nord -sDK DD/Tank.
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Andrana Stormlock - Altmer - mTe Healer/ DD
Elvali Marvani - Dunmer - mDK DD.
Venemus Draconem - Redguard - sDK DD
Jayri Leki - Redguard - sSo DD.
Miss Jabsalot - Altmer - mTe PvP DD/ Tank
Mireli Hlaano - Dunmer - mNB DD.
Ms Shanks - Redguard - sNB DD/ le bank
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Dilemma Dame - Altmer - mDK DD
Stamsorc Kitty - Redguard - sSor DD
Aia Draconis - Imperial - sDK Tank
Decides-Who-Lives - Argonian - mTe Healer
You wont stop me - Altmer - mSo DD
Stab in the dark - Khajiit - sNB DD
Jabjabjab Beambeambeam - Dunmer - mTe DD
Spatium Auxiliarus - Imperial - hTe Tank&bank
Spectre - Altmer - mNB DD
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FloppyTouch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭SublimeSparo wrote: »So you acknowledge trials exist as 12 man content, but then want 12man content... you got me, i'm baffled af
Maybe you can´t read or comprehend written text.
So one more extra for you.
Yes I know, that there are trials, but there is just few of them. I dont find it entertaining to run four instancec over and over again.
How many do you want? Would 1 or 2 really change things that much.0 -
darkllord✭✭✭YESSublimeSparo wrote: »SublimeSparo wrote: »So you acknowledge trials exist as 12 man content, but then want 12man content... you got me, i'm baffled af
Maybe you can´t read or comprehend written text.
So one more extra for you.
Yes I know, that there are trials, but there is just few of them. I dont find it entertaining to run four instancec over and over again.
So you want more trials...
Ok, my apology. I did not formulated it clearly. I meant 8 or 12 man versions of all existing dungeons.
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darkllord✭✭✭YESFloppyTouch wrote: »SublimeSparo wrote: »So you acknowledge trials exist as 12 man content, but then want 12man content... you got me, i'm baffled af
Maybe you can´t read or comprehend written text.
So one more extra for you.
Yes I know, that there are trials, but there is just few of them. I dont find it entertaining to run four instancec over and over again.
How many do you want? Would 1 or 2 really change things that much.
Answered above. My apologies for not being clear for the first time.
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✭✭✭FloppyTouch wrote: »SublimeSparo wrote: »So you acknowledge trials exist as 12 man content, but then want 12man content... you got me, i'm baffled af
Maybe you can´t read or comprehend written text.
So one more extra for you.
Yes I know, that there are trials, but there is just few of them. I dont find it entertaining to run four instancec over and over again.
How many do you want? Would 1 or 2 really change things that much.
Answered above. My apologies for not being clear for the first time.
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Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭What do you think of it? I think even veteran dungeons are fairly easy and sometimes you don´t even notice, that you are in vet dungeon until finals boss. And even there - just few of them are really challenging. Mostly it is just DPS check. What about 8 or 12 man version of all existing dungeons, that will be more difficult and challenging with better rewards, maybe gold items drops. Of course, we have trials, but there is just few of them. What do you think about this?
We kinda have raids already. In ESO, these are called Trials. But we need more trials, if you ask me.
Also, one thing that would be interesting is scaling normal dungeons to the number of ppl in group, where 4 is floor and 8 ceiling. That would mighty speed up the gearing process, since you would be able to farm things 2x faster. And with crappy pile of poo rng we have now, it would let PvPers spend more time in PvP and not hunting for burning spelweave destro/resto staffs with desirable traits. Also, for folk that are into dolly houses, it would bring them trophies they need to decorate their cribs in a faster pace, I guess.2 -
SublimeSparo✭✭✭✭✭I'm not sure about (more) rehashed versions of existing dungeons but i'm totally in favour of some 6-8 person NEW content, along side both new trials and 4person dungeons.
8 seems to be a good number (if i had a penny for the amount of times wanting to do a trial but theres only 8 people on)PS4 EU CP900. PS4 NA CP600,
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High Sparo - Altmer - mSo DD.
Wood Sparo - Bosmer - sNB DD
Nord Sparo - Nord -sDK DD/Tank.
Bubble Girl - Imperial -sTe DD
Succubus Sue - Breton - mNB Tank.
Andrana Stormlock - Altmer - mTe Healer/ DD
Elvali Marvani - Dunmer - mDK DD.
Venemus Draconem - Redguard - sDK DD
Jayri Leki - Redguard - sSo DD.
Miss Jabsalot - Altmer - mTe PvP DD/ Tank
Mireli Hlaano - Dunmer - mNB DD.
Ms Shanks - Redguard - sNB DD/ le bank
NA
Dilemma Dame - Altmer - mDK DD
Stamsorc Kitty - Redguard - sSor DD
Aia Draconis - Imperial - sDK Tank
Decides-Who-Lives - Argonian - mTe Healer
You wont stop me - Altmer - mSo DD
Stab in the dark - Khajiit - sNB DD
Jabjabjab Beambeambeam - Dunmer - mTe DD
Spatium Auxiliarus - Imperial - hTe Tank&bank
Spectre - Altmer - mNB DD
Can't-Main-Tank -Argonian - sDK offTank2 -
Oompuh✭✭✭✭✭NOMore Trials? Yes please.
Rehashing current 4 man content to 8-12? No thanksXbox NA - Oompa
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Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
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My initial response as well, hence why I haven't voted. OP basically wants more trials.SublimeSparo wrote: »So you acknowledge trials exist as 12 man content, but then want 12man content... you got me, i'm baffled af
Everybody wants more trials.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -0 -
Solid_Metal✭✭✭✭✭YESmore trials or even more bigger raids?, yes please
make existing dungeon to "trial" ?, no"i will walk through the fog, as i welcome death"0 -
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✭✭✭✭frateanu.luiseb17_ESO wrote: »I would like to have 24 man raids .I hope this will happen in the near future.
On 12 man trials I have around 20fps... I can't even imagine how it would look like with 24 people standing in one spot and spamming with AoE all the time...
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✭YESPretty nice idea. Also, since people complain a lot of new Trials, whu not connect all three sections of Skyreach, enlarge it a little bit (some corridors are too stretch) and convert it to a Trial, increasing bosses damage and health by a lot and doubling the number of adds per round.
The same with Shada's Tear
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✭✭✭YESI voted yes but I'd prefer they create something new for raids and not just rehash existing dungeons and trials.Founder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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✭✭✭✭✭YESMore Trials would be AMAZING!
24-man raids are technically possible for ESO, but I doubt ZOS could refine their game in a way to allow something like that to occur in organized PvE battles without slowing us down to like 5FPS...0 -
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✭frateanu.luiseb17_ESO wrote: »I would like to have 24 man raids .I hope this will happen in the near future.
On 12 man trials I have around 20fps... I can't even imagine how it would look like with 24 people standing in one spot and spamming with AoE all the time...
good point...ZOS have already stated that they are limiting housing to 24 "guests" for this sort of reason...and you don't even do much inside a house, let alone fight hordes of spawning mobs0 -
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✭SublimeSparo wrote: »So you acknowledge trials exist as 12 man content, but then want 12man content... you got me, i'm baffled af
Maybe you can´t read or comprehend written text.
So one more extra for you.
Yes I know, that there are trials, but there is just few of them. I dont find it entertaining to run four instancec over and over again.
the problem is that just rehashing dungeons to 8 or 12 man will just up the boss HP and it is still a DPS race...no new content...no change...nothing exciting
ZOS are already rehashing old content over and over again adding in the daily grind and even more rehash with housing (does that make it a hash house?)0 -
azoriangaming✭✭✭✭NOI'd rather see new stuff than be going over the previous stuff over and over again,0
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✭✭✭✭NOTrials are trials, dungeons are dungeons. The mechanics are different for 12 man groups, compared to 4 man groups. Simply buffing the health of the enemies on the latter won't magically transform a dungeon in a viable, challenging trial. IMO 4 man dungeons are part of the progression towards trials. DSA is in between.Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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Surgee✭✭✭✭NOThe problem is, most of players don't have a possibility to go to 12 man dungeon. Creating so much 12 man content with greater rewards would make the gear gap even larger.2
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theher0not✭✭✭✭✭YESMisclicked. I vote yes for more raids (trials). No to 12 man versions of the dungs.0
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Jimbullbee85✭✭✭✭YESSublimeSparo wrote: »SublimeSparo wrote: »So you acknowledge trials exist as 12 man content, but then want 12man content... you got me, i'm baffled af
Maybe you can´t read or comprehend written text.
So one more extra for you.
Yes I know, that there are trials, but there is just few of them. I dont find it entertaining to run four instancec over and over again.
So you want more trials...
Ok, my apology. I did not formulated it clearly. I meant 8 or 12 man versions of all existing dungeons.
EDITED in OP
There's nothing wrong with the way you presented it. Just because you're asking for more group content doesn't mean you want more trials although more group content on a trial scale sounds like a good idea to me. All you're asking for is more group content. I think some people are trying to trivialise it a bit too much.Jimbullbee, Templar healer battlemage0 -
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Wasting developers time to just rehash old content, no thanks.~ Gryphon Heart ~
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✭✭✭✭✭YESZos has improved there setup from the time craglorn was initially released. They now have a normal and vet versions with a HM option vs one version with a HM option.
There should be 3 versions. Normal, Vet and HM. HM being the entire trial, not just the final boss. There should be an additional mechanic for each boss encounter when in HM. Maybe even an additional boss along the way.0