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Dungeon Role Titles

ArchMikem
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Suggestion for new Character Titles and Achievements that could help influence group gameplay, even in the slightest.

Role Achievements,

Dungeon Damage Dealer:
Inflict (x) amount of damage inside a group Dungeon while wielding offensive weapons.

Title: Group Damager

Dungeon Shield Bearer:
Block (x) amount of incoming damage inside a group Dungeon while wielding a Sword and Shield.

Title: Group Defender

Dungeon Combat Medic
Heal (x) amount of your Allies Health inside a group Dungeon while wielding a Restoration Staff.

Title: Group Healer

I believe that a character having these titles would at least show the player has some competence in these roles and thus could potentially cut down on all the drama and frustration with Dungeon Groups in the community.
CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Just my opinion that it could be confusing....because of how these are achieved, it could cause confusion for those who have nameplates on.

    If this happened I ask that group role icons appear on characters heads vs the arrows and crown
    Edited by NewBlacksmurf on January 12, 2017 6:47PM
    -PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
    ~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *501
  • jaye63
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    Just get rid of them all and have a request to join system where you can elect to allow the person based on what you need, not on what the title calls them. Such a ridiculously tedious system right now.
  • LadyNalcarya
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    Idk really.
    My dd chars have "dungeon healer" and "dungeon blocker" too and on an actual healer I got my "trials healer" achievement before even finishing its first trial.
    The requirements for these are very low. Actually I think they havent changed them after softcap removal.
    Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason

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  • Tryxus
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    "Blamed the healer"

    That's the title I want ;)
    "Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
    Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU
  • starkerealm
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    Idk really.
    My dd chars have "dungeon healer" and "dungeon blocker" too and on an actual healer I got my "trials healer" achievement before even finishing its first trial.
    The requirements for these are very low. Actually I think they havent changed them after softcap removal.

    I think they were, but power creep has rendered their values pretty meaningless. I mean, I've got a NB DPS that hasn't run a dungeon in ages who's 30% of the way towards the 10m damage blocker achievement.
  • WalksonGraves
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    I got all those achievements while tanking almost immediately, they aren't a very high bar or have anything to do with your current set up.
  • ArchMikem
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    Reread my description for these achievements. The normal ones we already can get also count Delves as Dungeons, which makes them way too easy and practically worthless. These achievement titles however would only count your earnings inside group dungeons.
    CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
    Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!
  • LadyNalcarya
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Reread my description for these achievements. The normal ones we already can get also count Delves as Dungeons, which makes them way too easy and practically worthless. These achievement titles however would only count your earnings inside group dungeons.

    It doesnt matter. Still, they can be obtained very fast.
    Highest tier of these achieves is 10 mil which isnt much considering how much hp the mobs have...
    Edited by LadyNalcarya on January 12, 2017 7:20PM
    Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason

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  • ArchMikem
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Reread my description for these achievements. The normal ones we already can get also count Delves as Dungeons, which makes them way too easy and practically worthless. These achievement titles however would only count your earnings inside group dungeons.

    It doesnt matter. Still, they can be obtained very fast.
    Highest tier of these achieves is 10 mil which isnt much considering how much hp the mobs have...

    Then increase the ammount needed. I tried to make the descriptions as specific as possible so they wouldnt be earned as easily by people not playing the roles for them.
    CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
    Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!
  • KochDerDamonen
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    heh, there's much more to all these roles than their bare minimum being performed over time. I could easily nab these titles just light attacking things to death in normal dungeons alone if left to it long enough.

    we already have achievements to post and "prove" competence, it's a wash really. Some people care and other people get upset that they care, some people don't care and it does nothing, even some other people get upset at the very idea.
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  • Cryptical
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    If I may offer a few ways to construct it so it weeds out the fakers and isn't that vulnerable to being gamed?

    Couldn't be a flat X many points of damage dealt / healed / blocked. That's just another grind that proves nothing. It would have to be keyed according to the % damage you did of the group, % damage the group received that you healed, % damage the mobs gave that you blocked. Starts at zero in each dungeon. PC players can calculate this right now with their addons, their addon knows their own damage and knows the stats of the mobs on the screen, so no big change here. I think the way to make this work well would be to set high thresholds for getting credit for the achievement. Like, 50% of the damage comes from one person, 80% of the healing came from the healer, tank blocked 70% of the total damage. High thresholds so people have to work at it.

    Couldn't be just a one-time hurdle to overcome. Just about anybody can heal normal fungal 1. It might need to require multiple dungeons to avoid just running fungal 1, and multiple times to demonstrate that it wasn't just a fluke. So, maybe require 2/3rds of the dungeons? And each has to be completed maybe 4 times?

    And, add 'Champion' to the title for achieving the requirements with the stronger versions of the dungeons. So we can tell the difference between a person that has only done a role on normals and one who has gone the distance on the harder content.
    Edited by Cryptical on January 12, 2017 7:59PM
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  • Karius_Imalthar
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    These titles are extremely easy to get and don't even require a group or even going into an actual group dungeon. You could sit in a public dungeon, find a group of mobs, stand there and heal yourself occasionally and get the defender and healer achievements.
  • ArchMikem
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    These titles are extremely easy to get and don't even require a group or even going into an actual group dungeon. You could sit in a public dungeon, find a group of mobs, stand there and heal yourself occasionally and get the defender and healer achievements.

    Thats the opposite of what i said. Public Dungeons do not count as they are more on par wih Delves than legit Group Dungeons, which i have specified.

    @Cryptical 's suggestion is a great additive requirement.
    CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
    Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!
  • ForsakenSin
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    @Tryxus
    Tryxus wrote: »
    "Blamed the healer"

    That's the title I want ;)

    LOL as a Healer can i get title that says "Stop being Leeroy Jenkins Damm it!!!! " :D


    Edited by ForsakenSin on January 12, 2017 9:40PM
    "By many i am seen as hero...as a savior of the Tamriel i will not stop until every Daedra every evil there is in Tamriel is vanquish by my hands..
    However i do this for my own purpose to gain trust of mortals to worship me and to eliminate my competition i will not bend my knee to lead your army to serve you Molag Bal , i will simply just take it from you.."--- Forsaken Sin( Magica Sorc)



    Arise From Darkness Forsaken SIn
    "You have been a loyal High Elf Magica Sorc
    Conjure of Darkness, Master of Magic
    Killer of Molag Bal and Savior of Ebonheart Pact
    Until Dark Brotherhood killed you...
    but now..NOW its time to Arise From Darkness once again..."

  • Tryxus
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    @Tryxus
    Tryxus wrote: »
    "Blamed the healer"

    That's the title I want ;)

    LOL as a Healer can i get title that says "Stop being Leeroy Jenkins Damm it!!!! " :D


    If i can get that on my tank too :D Sure
    "Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
    Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU
  • ForsakenSin
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    @Tryxus

    DEAL!

    bahahahahahahah
    "By many i am seen as hero...as a savior of the Tamriel i will not stop until every Daedra every evil there is in Tamriel is vanquish by my hands..
    However i do this for my own purpose to gain trust of mortals to worship me and to eliminate my competition i will not bend my knee to lead your army to serve you Molag Bal , i will simply just take it from you.."--- Forsaken Sin( Magica Sorc)



    Arise From Darkness Forsaken SIn
    "You have been a loyal High Elf Magica Sorc
    Conjure of Darkness, Master of Magic
    Killer of Molag Bal and Savior of Ebonheart Pact
    Until Dark Brotherhood killed you...
    but now..NOW its time to Arise From Darkness once again..."

  • Cryptical
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    Karius did point out a problem.

    Vet white gold has been soloed. So has vet cradle. And vet fungal 2 with the boss that chains you down. Vet imperial prison is in process of being soloed.

    So, just tap into the BoP loot code to make these things not count unless you are grouped and the group mates are present. Which would forestall being able to solo those titles.

    Also, being able to solo means being able to get credit for all 3 roles with each run, even when grouped. Maybe add a time limit, so that a single person grouped with a tag along still can't farm them because it takes too long.
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  • starkerealm
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Reread my description for these achievements. The normal ones we already can get also count Delves as Dungeons, which makes them way too easy and practically worthless. These achievement titles however would only count your earnings inside group dungeons.

    It doesnt matter. Still, they can be obtained very fast.
    Highest tier of these achieves is 10 mil which isnt much considering how much hp the mobs have...

    As a DPS, Rally will get you the healer achievement within a couple days running nothing more strenuous than delves.
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