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Questing guild. Would this be allowed?
tunepunk
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After completing most stuff in game, and the lack of things to do (except dailies) i had a little idea. Would it be allowed do use the ingame mail system to set up a simple questing engine, (purely for guildies) with automatic mails to guild members, where they get tasks to complete. When they complete the task, send back the required items, and get gold or other rewards back?
I don't know if I would like to compose/handle all those mails myself. Would it be allowed to automate it, and is it even possible?
I would love to get new quests in my mailbox every day, since i'm getting a bit bored of the regular dailies.
I think that would be a great way for guilds, who want to get specific stuff for their trader also, and fun for RP guilds who want to give tasks for their members.
A tool like that would help ZOS letting guilds and players create their own playable content and quests.
@ZOS_GinaBruno
Would it be allowed/possible, to use ingame mail for this purpose?
Edit: Clarification on what the Quests are.
Different kind of guild activities with rewards for completion, things that anyone can do if they're bored or don't know what to do.
Edited by tunepunk on January 12, 2017 6:27PM I don't know if I would like to compose/handle all those mails myself. Would it be allowed to automate it, and is it even possible?
I would love to get new quests in my mailbox every day, since i'm getting a bit bored of the regular dailies.
I think that would be a great way for guilds, who want to get specific stuff for their trader also, and fun for RP guilds who want to give tasks for their members.
A tool like that would help ZOS letting guilds and players create their own playable content and quests.
@ZOS_GinaBruno
Would it be allowed/possible, to use ingame mail for this purpose?
Edit: Clarification on what the Quests are.
Different kind of guild activities with rewards for completion, things that anyone can do if they're bored or don't know what to do.
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theher0not✭✭✭✭✭I don't think there is a way to make it automaticly without using bots (and those are obvioulsy against the rules).
But if you found a way to get around that or if you could find some dedicated guys to handle it I don't see why it wouldn't be ok.0 -
tunepunk✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, but I'm also worried that even if you have dedicated people doing it, would it be flagged as spam and if you could be banned because of all the mails going in and out.
If you have a few dedicated people working on it, you can't really share account details of one account to handle it, and it's not very good that everyone [who hands out quests] uses their personal account.
Tricky one, but would be fun to try if it would work.
Technically it would work, because you can send attachments and such, but I bet it's a lot of labor just keeping track of it all, so automating it, or at least the possibility to send mail to multiple recipients in the guild at once. A list of the daily quests, and the payouts for the collected items. Maybe guildmotd could do the job, but it would feel more personal with mails.Edited by tunepunk on January 12, 2017 3:05PM0 -
tunepunk✭✭✭✭✭I also image it could work like this. (requests from other players)
Let's say a person is trying to collect some specific pieces of a set, help finish an achievment/quest, needs any particular crafting material or whatever, he sends a mail to GM with his reward, GM creates a quest, sends out a notice about the quest and the payment for completion.
Once the quest is done, participant(s) are payed,
If no one want's to help out, he can raise his reward.
It could be anything from, a player wanting to get a specific monster mask, kill world bosses, a rare drop, or any tradable item. The point is the reward offering.... With houses coming and all, i think people would like to help out with stuff, to get some extra gold.
We all know how hard it could be to gather a decent group, or don't really wanna run around farming, while others might like to.0 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Its prob going to get flagged eventually.
The mail system really seems to only make sense for COD or sending ppl stuff on occasion
It doesn't seem to be a reliable way of communication IMO and especially considering this idea, I'd say that you would really just want to pretend to be a NPC and give items via trade.-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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tunepunk✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Its prob going to get flagged eventually.
The mail system really seems to only make sense for COD or sending ppl stuff on occasion
It doesn't seem to be a reliable way of communication IMO and especially considering this idea, I'd say that you would really just want to pretend to be a NPC and give items via trade.
I can't really hang around for trades, especially if I'm in the middle of something myself, that's why the mailing system would make more sense for those who want to participate.
Posting quests can be done in guild chat, motd though, but handling transactions with regular trade is not optimal.0 -
Stopnaggin✭✭✭✭✭
✭I can tell you that one of the guilds I'm in does spontaneous events. The last one got our treasurer baned. People would win said contests and she would send the gold through mail and she got banned as a gold seller. At this point I think ZOS is completely lost as how to handle guilds with social activities.
I realize they have to have restrictions in place to combat gold selling and spam etc. But seriously getting banned for send too many in game mails, or too much gold too fast, its a social game and when you're social you get banned. I have seen way worse stuff on text chat that never gets resolved, racial slurs, insulting behavior, aggressive people (groups) hounding 1 person, hell now the big thing is selling last boss instances in maw.
I think guilds should have more leeway when it comes to mailing and gold restrictions that are set for auto ban. I also realize that anything they put in place will not be perfect for everyone and could possibly be abused.
One question I would like an answer to is where are the in game mods with the special z. 3 years never seen one, counting on the player base to police their own game often ends up bad. I know I grow tired of the crap that goes on in zone chat, and yes I turn it off but why should I have to. It would be nice to see some in game mods hand out some warnings every once in a while to try and keep some order.0 -
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✭You do get auto picked up for spam, everything has to be done manually and slowly or else the bot filter steps on you
I don't know how ZOS has yet to realize that the guild motd is not good enough for keeping a guild up to date on events in-game. Your best bet would be some sort of website with postings, or reserving your guild chat for postings.If you quote someone, and intend for them to see what you have said, be sure to Mention them with @[insert name].1 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Its prob going to get flagged eventually.
The mail system really seems to only make sense for COD or sending ppl stuff on occasion
It doesn't seem to be a reliable way of communication IMO and especially considering this idea, I'd say that you would really just want to pretend to be a NPC and give items via trade.
I can't really hang around for trades, especially if I'm in the middle of something myself, that's why the mailing system would make more sense for those who want to participate.
Posting quests can be done in guild chat, motd though, but handling transactions with regular trade is not optimal.
@tunepunk
Just giving my thoughts....I think you already know there is a significant potential to experience adverse actions using mail.-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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tunepunk✭✭✭✭✭KochDerDamonen wrote: »You do get auto picked up for spam, everything has to be done manually and slowly or else the bot filter steps on you
I don't know how ZOS has yet to realize that the guild motd is not good enough for keeping a guild up to date on events in-game. Your best bet would be some sort of website with postings, or reserving your guild chat for postings.
That kind of sucks, bacause I was just thinking of setting this guild up like a "hands for hire" type of guild, where you request help with anything for payment, and GM/Officers takes the money offered, post a quest, and pays participants once completed.0 -
tunepunk✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Its prob going to get flagged eventually.
The mail system really seems to only make sense for COD or sending ppl stuff on occasion
It doesn't seem to be a reliable way of communication IMO and especially considering this idea, I'd say that you would really just want to pretend to be a NPC and give items via trade.
I can't really hang around for trades, especially if I'm in the middle of something myself, that's why the mailing system would make more sense for those who want to participate.
Posting quests can be done in guild chat, motd though, but handling transactions with regular trade is not optimal.
@tunepunk
Just giving my thoughts....I think you already know there is a significant potential to experience adverse actions using mail.
I guess it could work if you have enough reliable officers. And if you have strict guild guidlines like.
If you want a quest posted.
* Rewards are payed in full, in advance to an officer, which you have to travel to, included with a 10% house cut. (which the officer could get for his efforts to handle the transactions for the quests)
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runagate✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Perhaps you could automate parts of it outside the game, such as in real emails or discord, which informed you in an automated way what you ought to do in-game to respond, you and officers, and a way to tally what responses have already been performed so people don't reduplicate their efforts?0 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Its prob going to get flagged eventually.
The mail system really seems to only make sense for COD or sending ppl stuff on occasion
It doesn't seem to be a reliable way of communication IMO and especially considering this idea, I'd say that you would really just want to pretend to be a NPC and give items via trade.
I can't really hang around for trades, especially if I'm in the middle of something myself, that's why the mailing system would make more sense for those who want to participate.
Posting quests can be done in guild chat, motd though, but handling transactions with regular trade is not optimal.
@tunepunk
Just giving my thoughts....I think you already know there is a significant potential to experience adverse actions using mail.NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Its prob going to get flagged eventually.
The mail system really seems to only make sense for COD or sending ppl stuff on occasion
It doesn't seem to be a reliable way of communication IMO and especially considering this idea, I'd say that you would really just want to pretend to be a NPC and give items via trade.
I can't really hang around for trades, especially if I'm in the middle of something myself, that's why the mailing system would make more sense for those who want to participate.
Posting quests can be done in guild chat, motd though, but handling transactions with regular trade is not optimal.
@tunepunk
Just giving my thoughts....I think you already know there is a significant potential to experience adverse actions using mail.
I guess it could work if you have enough reliable officers. And if you have strict guild guidlines like.
If you want a quest posted.
* Rewards are payed in full, in advance to an officer, which you have to travel to, included with a 10% house cut. (which the officer could get for his efforts to handle the transactions for the quests)
*This is all just my opinion/off topic a bit*
Is this coming up because of something the game is lacking based on your point of view?
I ask because there are thousands of quests to do alone. There are also hundreds to do in a group/solo mix
Is this a situation where you've identified a couple hundred players who have all completed those thousands of quests and aren't interested in doing them on alts?-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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tunepunk✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Its prob going to get flagged eventually.
The mail system really seems to only make sense for COD or sending ppl stuff on occasion
It doesn't seem to be a reliable way of communication IMO and especially considering this idea, I'd say that you would really just want to pretend to be a NPC and give items via trade.
I can't really hang around for trades, especially if I'm in the middle of something myself, that's why the mailing system would make more sense for those who want to participate.
Posting quests can be done in guild chat, motd though, but handling transactions with regular trade is not optimal.
@tunepunk
Just giving my thoughts....I think you already know there is a significant potential to experience adverse actions using mail.NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Its prob going to get flagged eventually.
The mail system really seems to only make sense for COD or sending ppl stuff on occasion
It doesn't seem to be a reliable way of communication IMO and especially considering this idea, I'd say that you would really just want to pretend to be a NPC and give items via trade.
I can't really hang around for trades, especially if I'm in the middle of something myself, that's why the mailing system would make more sense for those who want to participate.
Posting quests can be done in guild chat, motd though, but handling transactions with regular trade is not optimal.
@tunepunk
Just giving my thoughts....I think you already know there is a significant potential to experience adverse actions using mail.
I guess it could work if you have enough reliable officers. And if you have strict guild guidlines like.
If you want a quest posted.
* Rewards are payed in full, in advance to an officer, which you have to travel to, included with a 10% house cut. (which the officer could get for his efforts to handle the transactions for the quests)
*This is all just my opinion/off topic a bit*
Is this coming up because of something the game is lacking based on your point of view?
I ask because there are thousands of quests to do alone. There are also hundreds to do in a group/solo mix
Is this a situation where you've identified a couple hundred players who have all completed those thousands of quests and aren't interested in doing them on alts?
It would also be for players who want to earn a bit of extra coin for their services. I wouldn't paying for some stuff hard to get a group for, or can't craft.0 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Its prob going to get flagged eventually.
The mail system really seems to only make sense for COD or sending ppl stuff on occasion
It doesn't seem to be a reliable way of communication IMO and especially considering this idea, I'd say that you would really just want to pretend to be a NPC and give items via trade.
I can't really hang around for trades, especially if I'm in the middle of something myself, that's why the mailing system would make more sense for those who want to participate.
Posting quests can be done in guild chat, motd though, but handling transactions with regular trade is not optimal.
@tunepunk
Just giving my thoughts....I think you already know there is a significant potential to experience adverse actions using mail.NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Its prob going to get flagged eventually.
The mail system really seems to only make sense for COD or sending ppl stuff on occasion
It doesn't seem to be a reliable way of communication IMO and especially considering this idea, I'd say that you would really just want to pretend to be a NPC and give items via trade.
I can't really hang around for trades, especially if I'm in the middle of something myself, that's why the mailing system would make more sense for those who want to participate.
Posting quests can be done in guild chat, motd though, but handling transactions with regular trade is not optimal.
@tunepunk
Just giving my thoughts....I think you already know there is a significant potential to experience adverse actions using mail.
I guess it could work if you have enough reliable officers. And if you have strict guild guidlines like.
If you want a quest posted.
* Rewards are payed in full, in advance to an officer, which you have to travel to, included with a 10% house cut. (which the officer could get for his efforts to handle the transactions for the quests)
*This is all just my opinion/off topic a bit*
Is this coming up because of something the game is lacking based on your point of view?
I ask because there are thousands of quests to do alone. There are also hundreds to do in a group/solo mix
Is this a situation where you've identified a couple hundred players who have all completed those thousands of quests and aren't interested in doing them on alts?
It would also be for players who want to earn a bit of extra coin for their services. I wouldn't paying for some stuff hard to get a group for, or can't craft.
May I suggest to create a very detailed post in the Guild forums too gather interest first.
Those interested will have questions, I'm not interested after reading the last comment but I wish you the best.-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Stopnaggin✭✭✭✭✭
✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Its prob going to get flagged eventually.
The mail system really seems to only make sense for COD or sending ppl stuff on occasion
It doesn't seem to be a reliable way of communication IMO and especially considering this idea, I'd say that you would really just want to pretend to be a NPC and give items via trade.
I can't really hang around for trades, especially if I'm in the middle of something myself, that's why the mailing system would make more sense for those who want to participate.
Posting quests can be done in guild chat, motd though, but handling transactions with regular trade is not optimal.
@tunepunk
Just giving my thoughts....I think you already know there is a significant potential to experience adverse actions using mail.NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Its prob going to get flagged eventually.
The mail system really seems to only make sense for COD or sending ppl stuff on occasion
It doesn't seem to be a reliable way of communication IMO and especially considering this idea, I'd say that you would really just want to pretend to be a NPC and give items via trade.
I can't really hang around for trades, especially if I'm in the middle of something myself, that's why the mailing system would make more sense for those who want to participate.
Posting quests can be done in guild chat, motd though, but handling transactions with regular trade is not optimal.
@tunepunk
Just giving my thoughts....I think you already know there is a significant potential to experience adverse actions using mail.
I guess it could work if you have enough reliable officers. And if you have strict guild guidlines like.
If you want a quest posted.
* Rewards are payed in full, in advance to an officer, which you have to travel to, included with a 10% house cut. (which the officer could get for his efforts to handle the transactions for the quests)
*This is all just my opinion/off topic a bit*
Is this coming up because of something the game is lacking based on your point of view?
I ask because there are thousands of quests to do alone. There are also hundreds to do in a group/solo mix
Is this a situation where you've identified a couple hundred players who have all completed those thousands of quests and aren't interested in doing them on alts?
For me yes. I'm kinda tired of the same old stuff. I've got 6 toons that have done most 3 that have done all the content. I think, imo what the op is after is just something else in a more player oriented enviroment. It would give some of the members of guilds get to know each other a little more. The guilds I'm in often do such things as fishing tournaments, small lotteries and group events like world boss killings. They are a nice distraction from the grind.
I for one enjoy when we hold training sessions for trials or dungeons, dueling tournaments and such. Kinda fun to just go out and have a laugh with the pressure of gotta finish this dungeon within 15 mins or you get kicked. Just little group oriented stuff.0 -
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"I demand you cut down the mightiest Redwood in the forest with...A HERRING!"
*Report Spam*
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"Your account has been banned until you can tell us the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow"Edited by srfrogg23 on January 12, 2017 5:44PM1 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
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Sorry to bring bad news but Zos will not be permitting players to develope content for ESO. Player developed content is mostly sub-par.
It would require Zos to setup a screening process to screen out the bulk of the offerings which they would find unnecessary cost and would mostly upset the bulk of the contributors due to the rejections.0 -
tunepunk✭✭✭✭✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »@tunepunk
Sorry to bring bad news but Zos will not be permitting players to develope content for ESO. Player developed content is mostly sub-par.
It would require Zos to setup a screening process to screen out the bulk of the offerings which they would find unnecessary cost and would mostly upset the bulk of the contributors due to the rejections.
It's not content. It's only would be a bit Roleplay. Like guild activities with rewards for completion, things that anyone can do if they're bored or don't know what to do.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »@tunepunk
Sorry to bring bad news but Zos will not be permitting players to develope content for ESO. Player developed content is mostly sub-par.
It would require Zos to setup a screening process to screen out the bulk of the offerings which they would find unnecessary cost and would mostly upset the bulk of the contributors due to the rejections.
It's not content. It's only would be a bit Roleplay. Like guild activities with rewards for completion, things that anyone can do if they're bored or don't know what to do.
Apologize for misunderstanding the OP. I had seen guilds and players creating their own content.0