Wow, some people are senseless/clueless

SG_Celerrimus · January 2017

Some people in this game just seem to lack the ability to put 2 and 2 together and get 4 properly, or just common sense in general.

Queued for a vet BC 2 for the pledge, wait a little while (Shave beard and grab a snack while waiting, you know how it goes), come back and just got in the dungeon. Get to the final boss because it was already in progress and the party lead and his friends/guildies ask me if I have eaten food, was sitting at 15.8k health. I said yea, and they instantly kick me, despite the fact I have full legendary NMG gear, all maelstrom weapons, and the vet SO title on. Its pretty damn common sense I know what I am doing and probably won't die.

Now I got 10 minutes to kill before I can requeue plus the queue time because some people lack common sense.

SirAndy · January 2017

SG_Celerrimus wrote: »

some people lack common sense.

"Common sense" needs to be renamed to "Uncommon sense" because in my personal experience, common sense is anything but common ...

Browiseth · January 2017

15k hp hot damn

i wouldn't kick you but i'd definitely ridicule you behind your back

SG_Celerrimus · January 2017

Browiseth wrote: »

15k hp hot damn

i wouldn't kick you but i'd definitely ridicule you behind your back

15.8k to be exact.

SirAndy wrote: »

SG_Celerrimus wrote: »

some people lack common sense.

"Common sense" needs to be renamed to "Uncommon sense" because in my personal experience, common sense is anything but common ...

Yea, seems a real damn shame its coming to that point these days.

Lukums1 · January 2017

Out of pure curiosity.

You mentioned you had 15k hp with food on.

How is that possible at 160 cp +

Even with all stam/magicka enchants you should have something like 16-17-18.

Just curious.

SG_Celerrimus · January 2017

Lukums1 wrote: »

Out of pure curiosity.

You mentioned you had 15k hp with food on.

How is that possible at 160 cp +

Even with all stam/magicka enchants you should have something like 16-17-18.

Just curious.

Sitting at 15.8k, usually in Trials I am around 16-18k depending on group buffs and such. I also dumped everything into stamina as far as attributes and enchants go, as I can churn out quite a lot of DPS (30k bloodspawn unbuffed was my most recent test)

Banana · January 2017

You weren't the tank were you

Ive got 17.5k with one health enchant so I must be better

SG_Celerrimus · January 2017

Banana wrote: »

You weren't the tank were you

Nah, DPS.

DigitalShibby · January 2017

PC EU?

SG_Celerrimus · January 2017

DigitalShibby wrote: »

PC EU?

PC NA

NewBlacksmurf · January 2017

Lukums1 wrote: »

Out of pure curiosity.

You mentioned you had 15k hp with food on.

How is that possible at 160 cp +

Even with all stam/magicka enchants you should have something like 16-17-18.

Just curious.

It's pretty common actually depending upon the race of all PTS are in magic and I'm cp 568+

Yinmaigao · January 2017

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Lukums1 wrote: »

Out of pure curiosity.

You mentioned you had 15k hp with food on.

How is that possible at 160 cp +

Even with all stam/magicka enchants you should have something like 16-17-18.

Just curious.

It's pretty common actually depending upon the race of all PTS are in magic and I'm cp 568+

LOL true.

When I run max-stats on my mag sorc, I have about 14k hp.

My shields are beefy af though

LordGavus · January 2017

Yeah thats annoying. Some people would rather wait for another replacement than just run the fight with the team they have.

Trinity_Is_My_Name · January 2017

I run with a few players whose toons sit at just over 10K unbuffed. Both are high CP with one close to 800 and both play PVP as well as PVE. We run all Vet content on Hard mode. The higher CP player just ran COA2 Vet mode Solo and completed it. So yeah, common sense is out the window with some people in this game. We never kick anyone from our groups for low CP and often invite low CP players and even less than 50 level players to run dungeons. This game is supposed to be fun!

Soafee · January 2017

I'm CP 102 or something in gear ranging from cp 60 to 100, green and blue scaled.. I have 18.8k and I'm in cloth gear as a healer, that's very strange you have 15k health

Yinmaigao · January 2017

Soafee wrote: »

I'm CP 102 or something in gear ranging from cp 60 to 100, green and blue scaled.. I have 18.8k and I'm in cloth gear as a healer, that's very strange you have 15k health

Are you using healthy jewelery or health glyphs on any armor slots? Also, what race?

It is easy to be 15k as a race with no hp bonus and all arcane/robust jewelry & magicka/stamina glyphs.

DHale · January 2017

I have points into health to get 18 k. There are certainly people that can run with less but most can't do why risk it?

Ulfgarde · January 2017

17k-18k is pretty much the norm. Running 16.5k might be pushing it, but doable with a good group. Any lower and people easily get aggravated, especially if you're the one healing them.

They should've asked you to put on some more health if it was needed, but TBC is easy anyway. Doesn't make sense to immediately kick someone like that.

TheShadowScout · January 2017

...and that's why I don't like doing PUG stuff.
Well, and because I am a sociophobe who'd only go dungeon crawling with people I feel comfortable with.
But this is at the core of it.
Don't go with random strangers, you never know what kind of morons they might be. Go with people you can trust to have your back, even if you have low HP as DPS, or if you are in that dungeon the first time and may need some instructions as to what to pay attnetion to, or whatever...

Savos_Saren · January 2017

I mean... 15.8k is kinda pushing it, bud. That group might have been newer players who think that you're set up to be a glass cannon. I'm CP 798 and I'd have reservations about a 15.8k health DPS. Not to say that you aren't skilled (I'm sure you know how to stay the hell out of the red and block when you need to) but think of the vast majority of players who only have 16k health. They're most likely not as skilled as you are.

If I saw a ~16k health DPS in my group who was pulling huge DPS... but constantly getting one-shot... I'd kick them. I'd rather finish the dungeon with a lower DPS who survives than a higher DPS that dies constantly.

Pixel_Zealot · January 2017

Yeah I know you probably rocking damage most of us won't ever get, but too many bosses one shot 18-20k. Also too many mechanics cannot be avoided like in vFGI. How do you not die in every dungeon?

darkllord · January 2017

A lot of people, that tries to look like pros or elitists with high CP just needs to be carried through the dung, because they just SUCK big time. Majority of them I dare to say. Yesterday case. I pug with my alt for normal random, as always, I get DLC dungeon - WGT in this case. I as DPS lvl 26, other DPS and tank around lvl 30. We got healer, that has about 350+CP and he immediately left party. Then we got healer 250+ and again - left right away. And again for two more times. All with decent CP. The other DPS was like "WTF is going on? Why they keep leaving?" "Because we are low lvls and no healer wants to do DLC dung with us", I replied. "They are all noobs." (Although nWGT is super easy). Then we got healer lvl 34 and storm WGT in no time with only one death on Molag Kena. One of the best pug runs I ever had. We all knew mechanics and tactics - no problem, we all had about 350 - 400CP and crafted sets on us.

So I laugh in face of those ""pros and elitist"", who are like: "Im gonna kick you because you are low lvl or I will leave party, bcs you are low lvls - you are not worthy to play with me. Mighty hero!"

But reality is: I rather kick you low lvls or I leave party of you low lvls because I suck in this game and I´m not able to do even normal difficulty.

Howgh.

Koensol · January 2017

Yea I feel you OP, people are indeed clueless sometimes. As a cp256 tank I have done every single dungeon on vet mode. So this guy in zone says: "LF1M tank vICP hm, experienced only". So I respond to him for an inv. He invites me and asks, have you done dungeon X on vet before. I say yes I've done that one. He asks me "on vet as well?" So I'm thinking to myself what is this guy being difficult. So I'm typing my response: "Yes, of course why else would I respond to your zone message". So when I was somewhere in the middle of that sentence, he kicks me. I didn't even have the time to type my response. Seriously, people are so sad sometimes.

darkllord · January 2017

Koensol wrote: »

Yea I feel you OP, people are indeed clueless sometimes. As a cp256 tank I have done every single dungeon on vet mode. So this guy in zone says: "LF1M tank vICP hm, experienced only". So I respond to him for an inv. He invites me and asks, have you done dungeon X on vet before. I say yes I've done that one. He asks me "on vet as well?" So I'm thinking to myself what is this guy being difficult. So I'm typing my response: "Yes, of course why else would I respond to your zone message". So when I was somewhere in the middle of that sentence, he kicks me. I didn't even have the time to type my response. Seriously, people are so sad sometimes.

Yes - typical case of what i posted above you. Just plain noobs, who suck in this game and kicked you. Because they need at least CP700 in their party to feel safe.

Koensol · January 2017

darkllord wrote: »

Koensol wrote: »

Yea I feel you OP, people are indeed clueless sometimes. As a cp256 tank I have done every single dungeon on vet mode. So this guy in zone says: "LF1M tank vICP hm, experienced only". So I respond to him for an inv. He invites me and asks, have you done dungeon X on vet before. I say yes I've done that one. He asks me "on vet as well?" So I'm thinking to myself what is this guy being difficult. So I'm typing my response: "Yes, of course why else would I respond to your zone message". So when I was somewhere in the middle of that sentence, he kicks me. I didn't even have the time to type my response. Seriously, people are so sad sometimes.

Yes - typical case of what i posted above you. Just plain noobs, who suck in this game and kicked you. Because they need at least CP700 in their party to feel safe.

Yup. And the ironic thing is, I had two cp 651+ dps in my party yesterday, and they were among the worst dps I have played with in a long time.

Katahdin · January 2017

You may very well know how to play and all but15.8 K is a tad low imo.
Healers dread people with super low health because they always get blamed when that person gets one shot in every fight.

darkllord wrote:

Because they need at least CP700 in their party to feel safe.

I have 690 CP and its hilarious being in a group of people that have lower CP all waiting for me to aggro the boss on my light armor sorc because I have higher CP than them......sometimes I wish we could hide the actual number.

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Enslaved · January 2017

If you have less than 68k health, you are not good enough even for normal dungeons. Everybody can confirm that.

FloppyTouch · January 2017

Enslaved wrote: »

If you have less than 68k health, you are not good enough even for normal dungeons. Everybody can confirm that.

10/10

yake82 · January 2017

How do you even get that low?

I have plenty of dd characters and they all reach 17k-18k hp easily with Undaunted passive and no points in hp.

I often play healer to get fast queues and keys, and i must say that i really don't like to see people with 15k hp, no matter their titles.
You know that 18k hp is standard.

DRXHarbinger · January 2017

Probably using which mother food on a high burn build. I use it in dungeons most of the time. If you got shields the difference is nothing I can self heal to full instantly anyway.

Fully speccd at max cp most things will got for 7-8k anyway so it's not an issue.

1 shot mech. ..does it make a difference. Plus banished cells 2....really? That group had space on the last boss for a reason. People ditched them.

Beardimus · January 2017

Agree on the Clueless. So many snobby kicks from groups before you even have a chance. Low health, low CP, Sorc healers, fat naked toons!

But it goes to show from this thread people follow a train of thought, assuming the 18-20k is the only option, as its banded about alot If he's 15k health with a 15k ward he's probably got more 'health' than the tank.

well for 6 seconds

but regardless people should give it a try first, then kick if total failure.its not even that tough a dungeon!

Two CP300's voted to kick a L10 out of a normal dungeon pug I was in the other day, before he even travelled. Considering you can solo them, I gave them grief about CP snobbery and said we'd be fine and got the guy thru who was very gratefull. And he didn't die once.