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What [nearly] ruined this game for me

SameMeteor26
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So when I first got this game I liked to watch some YTers and streamers. These streamers were pvp only streamers. I assumed these guys knew what they were talking about since they were so good at this game in pvp. Well these streamers would say stuff like PvE sucks. I'm pvp only. I will never play pve. also things like AD and EP and zergs. Don't join them they suck. Us DC are for true PvPers. So I went into this game with a mindset of 1. Never PvE and 2. Don't join AD and EP. So I just now have discoevred what this game has to offer. ( I've seen videos and read about it). I just reached level 50 and this game is amazing!!! I mean there's so much to do. I can't wait to do a dungeon for the first time or do MSA. I mean I've just know been opened up to this. I've had a game for a year and all I've done is sit in black water blade and pvp. ( i wasn't any good so I took a long brake and just got back into) also l, all my characters are on DC. I have never seen anything more than the DC places. I would like to make a AD or EP charc but I would hate to delete my charc. But yeah I just really regret being so close minded and only listening to what these streamers had to say. This game is truly amazing and I can't wait to truly get started.

Edited the title to make it less like an "I quit" title. :)
Edited by ZOS_DaryaK on January 10, 2017 9:48PM
  • SameMeteor26
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    Sorry for such a long paragraph. Lol
  • SameMeteor26
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    Basically I watched streamers who said PvE sucks. AD and EP suck. Only play pvp and only join DC. So I never got to really experience this game except for now.
  • The_Protagonist
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    So basically you are saying that a bunch of greedy egotistical streamers ruined a great game for you. You have to remember that those self glorified streamers are no better or worse than any of us, streaming is a kind of job and ego dump for most of them.

    There is never any harm in watching a stream or gathering information from different sources, but always remember that you should never make a judgement based on someone else's opinion, only use another opinion as a reference or a starting point of your own investigation/experience.

    BTW you can buy four additional character slots if haven't already for making new characters. Hope that helps mate.

    ESO has been a great game for me, my first MMO and I am enjoying it immensely.

    Cheers.
  • LordGavus
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    Glad you found the rest of the game.
    That's why it's best to take internet "experts" advice with a grain of salt.
    Just because they don't like it doesn't mean you won't.

    Enjoy your dungeons and questing!
  • dem0n1k
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    Nice one! :D For PVE it doesn't matter what Alliance you are since the One Tamriel update... all Alliance characters can play together in all zones. ( BTW : those streamers were right about AD.. they suck... EP are cool though ;) )

    NA Server [PC] -- Mostly Ebonheart Pact, Mostly.
  • The_Protagonist
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    dem0n1k wrote: »
    Nice one! :D For PVE it doesn't matter what Alliance you are since the One Tamriel update... all Alliance characters can play together in all zones. ( BTW : those streamers were right about AD.. they suck... EP are cool though ;) )

    :D:D:D Really? Now we have to start with this again! :)
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    Also... you don't need to make a new toon to travel to the other alliances, just use the boats in the harbour of your starter alliance to travel to EP and AD :*
  • DUTCH_REAPER
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    Know what it was that ruined it for me?

    Lag in Cyrodil (gotten a bit better though but not much)

    Nerfn my mDK over....and over..

    ZOS not addressing problems / exploits in a timely manner or at all but pushing out dlc content still

    Being killed in one-two seconds and my death recap showing 6 to 7 attack skills hitting me while I'm full gold heavy impen from one dude.

    Bar swapping but the bar doesn't swap

    Skill use but the skill doesn't go off

    Perma stunning goin unchecked by ZOS

    Giving a slap on the wrist to most of the CE users bc I still see some of their names on leaderboards in game and only giving them a temp suspension.

    Nerfn my mDK again...and again

    Limited pvp servers yet plenty of pve content (and yes I do enjoy pve as well but to say it's lopsided is an understatement)

    Sending in recommended changes by the community to ZOS and ZOS not listening to the players over and over.

    Good friends/players leaving due to foreseeing the future and telling me but I didn't listen, that they will never balance the classes bc they got that next dlc to drop.

    Yeh...the salt is real, my apologies
    Edited by DUTCH_REAPER on January 10, 2017 4:49AM
  • BossXV
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    So when I first got this game I liked to watch some YTers and streamers. These streamers were pvp only streamers. I assumed these guys knew what they were talking about since they were so good at this game in pvp. Well these streamers would say stuff like PvE sucks. I'm pvp only. I will never play pve. also things like AD and EP and zergs. Don't join them they suck. Us DC are for true PvPers. So I went into this game with a mindset of 1. Never PvE and 2. Don't join AD and EP. So I just now have discoevred what this game has to offer. ( I've seen videos and read about it). I just reached level 50 and this game is amazing!!! I mean there's so much to do. I can't wait to do a dungeon for the first time or do MSA. I mean I've just know been opened up to this. I've had a game for a year and all I've done is sit in black water blade and pvp. ( i wasn't any good so I took a long brake and just got back into) also l, all my characters are on DC. I have never seen anything more than the DC places. I would like to make a AD or EP charc but I would hate to delete my charc. But yeah I just really regret being so close minded and only listening to what these streamers had to say. This game is truly amazing and I can't wait to truly get started.

    U have many character slots , u don't have to delete character, and u can travel to other factions with 1T
  • TheShadowScout
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    The game gives you eight character slots to start with, and you can buy four more. (Yes, enough to make one of every class in every faction if you want to) Also, thanks to cadwells you can experience all the quests in all the factions with one character.

    Keep your main DC characters. Make EP and AD characters if you wish. Go out and enjoy the game, most is nifty, and some is even better! And I am glad you realized that! ;)

    As for listening to "them"... you know how that goes, right?
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  • silky_soft
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    You played in bwb, that were you went wrong.
    This recent update has made me sad. Sad for the game. Sad for the community. Sad to pay whatever it is now. I want the previous eso back.
  • kyle.wilson
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    I've played the game since launch. For the first year I mostly PVE'd. Which is prob why ive stayed this long. The PVE part was great.
    Then for about 10 Months I played in bwb (8 as EP and 2 as AD) Which was also fun to a point. I left EP when me and some guild officers got tired of zerging by the main ep guild. Gate farming at their base was kinda bs.
    And since then ive played in Trueflame on AD. While the pvp can be fun at times. The endless zerging, cookie cutter ball group builds, and lag (holy god the lag); I'm steadily asking myself why I still play the game. Or better yet, why I stil pay for membership for a game where fixing the lag has been ignored for 2 years. I've looked at the next update on the pts, and the massive laggy zerg balls will not end anytime soon.
  • Enslaved
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    So when I first got this game I liked to watch some YTers and streamers. These streamers were pvp only streamers. I assumed these guys knew what they were talking about since they were so good at this game in pvp. Well these streamers would say stuff like PvE sucks. I'm pvp only. I will never play pve. also things like AD and EP and zergs. Don't join them they suck. Us DC are for true PvPers. So I went into this game with a mindset of 1. Never PvE and 2. Don't join AD and EP. So I just now have discoevred what this game has to offer. ( I've seen videos and read about it). I just reached level 50 and this game is amazing!!! I mean there's so much to do. I can't wait to do a dungeon for the first time or do MSA. I mean I've just know been opened up to this. I've had a game for a year and all I've done is sit in black water blade and pvp. ( i wasn't any good so I took a long brake and just got back into) also l, all my characters are on DC. I have never seen anything more than the DC places. I would like to make a AD or EP charc but I would hate to delete my charc. But yeah I just really regret being so close minded and only listening to what these streamers had to say. This game is truly amazing and I can't wait to truly get started.

    Yeah, you were misleaded. DC has weakest leader, cheesiest story and I feel devs put least time in developing it. Also, PvE might not offer too much to a person who has done everything, but for everybody else, PvE is great.

    BTW you don't need to create new character to do all the quests for AD and EP, just travel to starter islands ( K. Roost and Bleakrock) and start questing. Soon, you will see how much you have missed by choosing DC at the begining.
  • Teronell
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    I'm going to let you in on a little secret.

    Learning to take the streamer's opinions with a grain of salt, can also be applied to this forum.
  • LordGavus
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    Teronell wrote: »
    I'm going to let you in on a little secret.

    Learning to take the streamer's opinions with a grain of salt, can also be applied to this forum.

    Yep, should be applied everywhere.
  • Wollust
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    That seems like a lack of common sense tbh
    Susano'o

    Zerg Squad
  • Berenhir
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    Moral of the story: Don't trust smurfs.
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  • aLi3nZ
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    Lolwut. It's not ruined. You can easily explore ad and ep zones just need to unlock gold and silver. Pve can actually be pretty great. All my charectors are ep btw and I would not feel comfortable creating a D.C. Or ad. More like a traitor.
  • Edziu
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    @SameMeteor26
    What ruined this game for me

    #WrobelBalance

    streamers are only people who seriously playing in this game and they share they thoughs about game to everyone who is watching them
  • Sausage
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    Take a break bro, it becomes unruined. I played almost religiously first couple year and now have had 6+ month break and it does the trick. I think I play Conan Exiles before adventuring back to ESO.
  • drakhan2002_ESO
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    If one of those streamers told you to jump off a real-life bridge, would you?

    Pro tip: Think for yourself...don't listen to what other people say. Do your own thing. Then, maybe, the next game you play won't be ruined for you...especially by a bunch of self-righteous streamers who have a myopic attitude of the game.
    Edited by drakhan2002_ESO on January 10, 2017 12:38PM
  • Enslaved
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    Well, jumping off Alessia bridge saved me more than once. And I saw it from a streamer lol
  • Darkonflare15
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    So when I first got this game I liked to watch some YTers and streamers. These streamers were pvp only streamers. I assumed these guys knew what they were talking about since they were so good at this game in pvp. Well these streamers would say stuff like PvE sucks. I'm pvp only. I will never play pve. also things like AD and EP and zergs. Don't join them they suck. Us DC are for true PvPers. So I went into this game with a mindset of 1. Never PvE and 2. Don't join AD and EP. So I just now have discoevred what this game has to offer. ( I've seen videos and read about it). I just reached level 50 and this game is amazing!!! I mean there's so much to do. I can't wait to do a dungeon for the first time or do MSA. I mean I've just know been opened up to this. I've had a game for a year and all I've done is sit in black water blade and pvp. ( i wasn't any good so I took a long brake and just got back into) also l, all my characters are on DC. I have never seen anything more than the DC places. I would like to make a AD or EP charc but I would hate to delete my charc. But yeah I just really regret being so close minded and only listening to what these streamers had to say. This game is truly amazing and I can't wait to truly get started.

    Yeah, you were misleaded. DC has weakest leader, cheesiest story and I feel devs put least time in developing it. Also, PvE might not offer too much to a person who has done everything, but for everybody else, PvE is great.

    BTW you don't need to create new character to do all the quests for AD and EP, just travel to starter islands ( K. Roost and Bleakrock) and start questing. Soon, you will see how much you have missed by choosing DC at the begining.

    Weakist leader and cheesiest story line? Doubt that. They were all pretty weak. Storyline wise Ebonheart was bland an it felt like they could not even handle theirselves.
  • Enslaved
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    Ok, let's compare the two storylines. Spoilers ahead.

    EP gets attacked by DC. DC commits all sorts of atrocities, killing villagers, burning them alive in locked mill and stuff.
    You fight to drive off DC, and finally you do so.
    Then you deal with some internal cult problem, before focusing on skinstealers from AD, and their kid eating ways.
    After that, you have to deal with more DC bs, since they try to put a Quisling in power that would hand them North on a F silver plate. At last, you deal with all necromancy bs DC and reachmen. You will get into Sovengarde for a minute and that is it.

    DC storyline. You mess with some pirates that recently found honor and you get to next zone, Bethnik. Leader of pirates will be pissed at you if you don't bring weapon of mass destruction to her, so she could deliver it to emeric.
    Then you go to Glenumbra, to be bored by destrouing this and that dead breton royal arse, with some light action with AD.
    After that, next zone. Bretons haunted by dreams, boo hoo, hurr durr derp. Cheesiest zone in entire game.
    Then you get to go to vampire infested zone that is in civil war. Yeah, emeric sure know how to rule his lands.
    After another soap opera, you move to desert. If there were no Tu'wacca priest bs, this would be pretty good, imo. Other than that, its pretty similar to Deshaan, you have some cultists and their mummies.
    At last, you get to Bangkorai. Only thing wort there is spriggan set. And you get to kill few imperials. And yeah, you will see for a minute how is redguard afterlife zone.

    Lets compare leaders.

    You have Skald king, he actually fights next to you few times. Pretty weak char, but far from pathetic.
    On the other hand, there is a breton merchant who is constantly looking for pat on the back, whine like, well, a F breton merchant, he is secure as a 12 y old when his new favorite toy starts to work, and all in all he is beyond pathetic.

    I can understand why some ppl play for AD, I mean, their queen at least tryhards to do something, no matter how naive is that. But Emeric? I would not give him a penny if I see him on a street. When I heard who will voiceact him, I was sure it will be good. But when I did quests that involved him... I was pissed how poor Emeric was done in game. Terrible, pure disappointment.

    Lets compare zones.
    EP
    Bleakrock - name said all. Cold island under snow somewhere south of Soltsheim. Nothing special.
    Bal Foyen - I liked it. It might be Morrowind nostalgia or something, but it is very nice.
    Stonefalls - This is my favorite zone in ESO. Volcanoes, ash, cliffs, with a touch of fertile land. If housing gets fixed and stash space gets implemented, I will buy at least one house here.
    Deshaan - Fertile lands mixed with lakes, marsh and sea on the east. For those who love Morrowind, this will be pretty nice area.
    Shadowfen- I am not someone who enjoy marshy terrain, but was surprised how this area was done. Pretty interesting, looking forward for Murkmire.
    Eastmarch and Rift - if you liked them in Skyrim, you will like them here too.

    DC
    Stros M'Kai- I liked the island, not the quests. It looks pretty cool, maybe I expected it to be a bit larger in size
    Bethnik - After Stros M'Kai, this zone looks like bs. Plain and boring, nothing to see here
    Glenumbra - At first, it was ok, but gets boring pretty fast. Of all 5 large zones in DC, this one is least appealing for me.
    Stormhaven - Despite few interesting stuff, pretty boring aswell. Maybe too plain for me.
    Rivenspire-dark, harsh area, nice change after 2 boring lands, main story is soap opera but even that is better than one in previous area, where Emeric was whining 24/7
    Alik'r Desert. After seeing Stros M'Kai, I was kinda anxious to see how Bethesda did larger desert. It is not bad at all, pretty interesting zone (for a desert lol)
    Bangkorai- At least, the middle split in the zone made it interesting. I spent countless hours here grinding for spriggan, it is interesting one.

    All in all, when you compare everything, EP zone have more interesting stuff to offer for a new player. Story is more polished, zones are nostalgic and well done. And leader is not that lame.

    If you take Orsinium DLC as addition to DC, it really improves the entire storyline, and aesthetic feel of DC. But compare Wrothgar to Glenumbra or Stormhaven. Its like comparing the work of master and complete beginner.
  • Jamini
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    If you think DC are better than AD or EP... I have some bad news for you.

    There is a reason 60% of the PvP community laugh, mock, and farm DC openly. Another 30% are DC players, who basically spend half of their time trash-talking each other their opponents and bitching when they inevitably die after failed gank.

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    Try EP and AD. You have eight character slots, and it is worth it to at least give other factions a go. Chances are you will probably find yourself liking the change in atmosphere, if nothing else.
    "Adapt. or Die."
  • AlwaysOnFire
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    Every time you see something disappointing a person ingame or in the community does its your opportunity to do better. if anything "ruined" this game for you but you wanna keep playing it, that means you have the chance to not "ruin" the game for others in the same or a related way.

    Good luck!
  • Peabutt
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    The lack of playing option ruins any game. I've played wow for 10 years. After that i've tried several mmos. Eso is an awesome mmorpg but it lacks some stuff. There's a big hype about the housing patch, but i don't see much fuss about any pvp updates. I have a house already and it takes plenty time. Don't want a virtual one now, but i'm not against it since a lot of ppl will want that.

    I hope they release arenas. And by arenas i mean organized instanced zones where they match 2v2, 3v3, 5v5, wtv... I want to see a leader and some good rewards for top ranked players. Cyrodill is fun but not much skill is required. I've been playing pvp in mmorpg all my life and thats what i like the most.

    Sum up: just make all options available to all the players. Duels, arenas, housing, pve (dungeons, raids...) and every1 will b happy
  • Soafee
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    I'm in the same boat sort of.

    When I first started playing I went to all the websites and youtube to watch videos on the class I wanted to play. My first character was pretty much a cookie cutter of someone else. I *hated* it. I hated the way it felt. It was boring. So, I remade a new character and did it the way I wanted. I still get people saying "You should use this spell, or this, or that." I don't listen to those people. I play how I want to play at my own pace and don't care what other people think.

    ESO is a game where many, many different things work for different people. Unlike World of Warcraft where you HAVE to have your spec with certain gear, certain talent points or you're actually hurting your entire raid. ESO isn't like that at all and that's what I love about this game. I haven't touched WoW in a long time because I discovered the true depth of this game and the hundreds of hours of game play/quests you can do in it. It beats WoW in many, many ways. They turned WoW into a instant gratification grind fest to reach max level and raid... That's all the game is now. Raiding and broken PVP. I want the RPG, I want quests, I want to feel immersed in the game. WoW doesn't do that for me anymore... ESO is love, is life! :P
    Today is a blessing. Yesterday is in the past and tomorrow is a mystery.
  • lardvader
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    Glad you opened up the rest of the game and is willing to give it a go. We are all different and some favours PvP over PvE etc.

    But it's best to make this discovery on your own and not being told by some tuber. And when it comes to zerging: we all got zergs :wink:

    Have a great day and enjoy your game!
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  • DHale
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    To put in context I have played since NA PC launch. I have played in all the elite AD guilds except die. this is not to besmirch them or their skill they are the elite players in this game. I only sorta name them because of the context of your post there are many deluded and disillusioned like you are. K and J used to run and are still in the the premier ep Zerg guild. This guild has probably 70 plus Emperor's and some have gotten EMP 40 plus times. They zerged and they are still in the guild despite small man and Solo cred.

    I was once a misfitz and we helped get S Emp three times on different toons and then defend EMP. F used to run in groups with the best DC Zerg guild and they are still playing to this day KH. Former streamer and you tube sensation D runs with I and their leader BE. This elite EP guild will chase a solo player across the Cyrodil map then tea bag you then hate/rage whisper you just for fun. Don't let them fool you. This game accommodates all play styles but this was not a game designed for solo play as I have not seen anyone take a solo keep. I can roll around in Cyrodil and see lots of solo player and small groups and another day not one.

    Although they are certainly great solo players the ability to farm gear and get all the stuff they get is because of their stream donations and those Zerg guilds which are comprised of a lot of really good players. This is how they got VO and alkosh and stuff not because they good trial players. They stream because they are social players who connect to other players and those connections help them be successful in having the very best gear that enables them to solo.
    Sorcerna, proud beta sorc. RIP April 2014 to May 31 2016 DArk Brotherhood. Out of retirement for negates and encases. Sorcerna will be going back into retirement to be my main crafter Fall 2018. Because an 8 k shield is f ing useless. Died because of baddies on the forum. Too much qq too little pew pew. 16 AD 2 DC. 0 EP cause they bad, CP 2300 plus 18 level 50 toons. NA, PC, Grey Host#SORCLIVESMATTER actually they don’t or they wouldn’t keep getting nerfed constantly.
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