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Should crown store bought manors count for the title?
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TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭They should get a special title exclusive to the crown store, like 'Big Spender' or 'Spends Real Money for Pixels' rather than the in-game title.
In all seriousness, titles don't confer any in-game benefit, so who cares?
The could call the title Moby-***.
(The whale you dirty minds!)
Wow sensor the title of a great book by Herman Melville. smh
Edited by TequilaFire on January 8, 2017 2:11PM1 -
snakester320✭✭✭✭NoDesipite the fact that there giving you no real reason to do the prerequisites and save the gold if it can be just purchased via the crown store the title should be reserved to ppl who put the effort in to actually doing the work... so if it's just a crummy title as such then why would ppl care if they get it or not via crown store purchase??..
I may buy a medium or a large with crowns (depending on housing prices) even though I've got enough gold for a medium .
I just don't see what the big fuss is if you don't get it if you kinda cheat the system by just buying it with crowns!!1 -
Orthodoxa✭✭✭YesI am really laughing out loud at some of the special snowflakes who are crying because spending real money on a cosmetic vanity item (a manor) will also include with the purchase a cosmetic vanity item (a title).
I guess some of the little kids grew up with participation trophies and don't know any better.
Selling vanity items for real money in the crown store is a completely legitimate way of earning income to keep this game that I love playing alive and well. The simple fact is that those who are crying that these things can be purchased for cash in addition to being able to be purchased with ingame gold are lazy, IMHO.
If having a fancy virtual home or a title that has no meaning outside of vanity / roleplaying is that important to you, then grow up and do what a normal adult would do -- either spend the time to get that much ingame gold or (shock) get a job and with your discretionary entertainment money buy it in the crown store! Problem solved!
And this is not in the least bit lore-breaking. In the real world (from which the Elder Scrolls mythos clearly draw much of their inspiration) titles of nobility could be earned in a wide variety of ways. The most common method, which required NO effort on the part of the recipient, was to simply be born into a family with a hereditary title of nobility.
Could someone earn a title of nobility by some extraordinary service to the crown? Absolutely.
Were people able to purchase titles of nobility for payments of cold hard cash? You betcha! For one example, King James I of England created the title of Baronet for the sole purpose of raising money. A person was able to buy that title from the king, he needed the cash.
https://britannica.com/topic/baronet2 -
Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoI am really laughing out loud at some of the special snowflakes who are crying because spending real money on a cosmetic vanity item (a manor) will also include with the purchase a cosmetic vanity item (a title).
I guess some of the little kids grew up with participation trophies and don't know any better.
Selling vanity items for real money in the crown store is a completely legitimate way of earning income to keep this game that I love playing alive and well. The simple fact is that those who are crying that these things can be purchased for cash in addition to being able to be purchased with ingame gold are lazy, IMHO.
If having a fancy virtual home or a title that has no meaning outside of vanity / roleplaying is that important to you, then grow up and do what a normal adult would do -- either spend the time to get that much ingame gold or (shock) get a job and with your discretionary entertainment money buy it in the crown store! Problem solved!
And this is not in the least bit lore-breaking. In the real world (from which the Elder Scrolls mythos clearly draw much of their inspiration) titles of nobility could be earned in a wide variety of ways. The most common method, which required NO effort on the part of the recipient, was to simply be born into a family with a hereditary title of nobility.
Could someone earn a title of nobility by some extraordinary service to the crown? Absolutely.
Were people able to purchase titles of nobility for payments of cold hard cash? You betcha! For one example, King James I of England created the title of Baronet for the sole purpose of raising money. A person was able to buy that title from the king, he needed the cash.
https://britannica.com/topic/baronet
I have 11 million gold and will be buying all 3 manors for the title. It took me and my wife around 10 months of farming and selling to get that much gold, therefore I completely disagree that someone can just pop in their credit card details and get what we worked so hard for so many months for.
I also understand that ZOS is a business and at the end of the day, having the title available from the crown store might make them some extra money so I've come to terms with it. I'll just tell everyone I meet that no I'm not a kid with rich parents who begged his daddy to buy 20,000 crowns, but I infact bought the houses with gold earned in gameEdited by Voxicity on January 8, 2017 3:30PM0 -
Orthodoxa✭✭✭YesI am really laughing out loud at some of the special snowflakes who are crying because spending real money on a cosmetic vanity item (a manor) will also include with the purchase a cosmetic vanity item (a title).
I guess some of the little kids grew up with participation trophies and don't know any better.
Selling vanity items for real money in the crown store is a completely legitimate way of earning income to keep this game that I love playing alive and well. The simple fact is that those who are crying that these things can be purchased for cash in addition to being able to be purchased with ingame gold are lazy, IMHO.
If having a fancy virtual home or a title that has no meaning outside of vanity / roleplaying is that important to you, then grow up and do what a normal adult would do -- either spend the time to get that much ingame gold or (shock) get a job and with your discretionary entertainment money buy it in the crown store! Problem solved!
And this is not in the least bit lore-breaking. In the real world (from which the Elder Scrolls mythos clearly draw much of their inspiration) titles of nobility could be earned in a wide variety of ways. The most common method, which required NO effort on the part of the recipient, was to simply be born into a family with a hereditary title of nobility.
Could someone earn a title of nobility by some extraordinary service to the crown? Absolutely.
Were people able to purchase titles of nobility for payments of cold hard cash? You betcha! For one example, King James I of England created the title of Baronet for the sole purpose of raising money. A person was able to buy that title from the king, he needed the cash.
https://britannica.com/topic/baronet
I have 11 million gold and will be buying all 3 manor for the title. It took me and my wife around 10 months of farming and selling to get that much gold, therefore I completely disagree that someone can just pop in their credit card details and get what we worked so hard for so many months for
LOL, so do you think that other folks did not work hard for their real world money?
Without a constant influx of real world money, this game will eventually die. Do you not understand that? The developers have to get a paycheck so that they can have a roof over their heads, food to eat, and so on.
These homes and titles are completely vanity / roleplay items. If you meet a Count / Countess in Cyrodill or in a Veteran Dungeon that title will not mean diddly-squat. They might be great players, or they might be horrible.
Raising money by selling vanity cosmetic items is exactly what ZOS should continue to do.
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Thybrinena✭✭✭✭Other
I'll just tell everyone I meet that no I'm not a kid with rich parents who begged his daddy to buy 20,000 crowns, but I infact bought the houses with gold earned in gameI am really laughing out loud at some of the special snowflakes who are crying because spending real money on a cosmetic vanity item (a manor) will also include with the purchase a cosmetic vanity item (a title).
I guess some of the little kids grew up with participation trophies and don't know any better.
Selling vanity items for real money in the crown store is a completely legitimate way of earning income to keep this game that I love playing alive and well. The simple fact is that those who are crying that these things can be purchased for cash in addition to being able to be purchased with ingame gold are lazy, IMHO.
If having a fancy virtual home or a title that has no meaning outside of vanity / roleplaying is that important to you, then grow up and do what a normal adult would do -- either spend the time to get that much ingame gold or (shock) get a job and with your discretionary entertainment money buy it in the crown store! Problem solved!
And this is not in the least bit lore-breaking. In the real world (from which the Elder Scrolls mythos clearly draw much of their inspiration) titles of nobility could be earned in a wide variety of ways. The most common method, which required NO effort on the part of the recipient, was to simply be born into a family with a hereditary title of nobility.
Could someone earn a title of nobility by some extraordinary service to the crown? Absolutely.
Were people able to purchase titles of nobility for payments of cold hard cash? You betcha! For one example, King James I of England created the title of Baronet for the sole purpose of raising money. A person was able to buy that title from the king, he needed the cash.
https://britannica.com/topic/baronet
Sure, because I expect so many people to ask me "Did mommy and daddy buy that amazing title for you Mr 37 year old man?" I'll feel so respected when I can say no I bought it with ingame gold I saved for many moons when others were gearing alts for progression raids and getting flawless conqueror and Grand Overlords titles.
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Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoI am really laughing out loud at some of the special snowflakes who are crying because spending real money on a cosmetic vanity item (a manor) will also include with the purchase a cosmetic vanity item (a title).
I guess some of the little kids grew up with participation trophies and don't know any better.
Selling vanity items for real money in the crown store is a completely legitimate way of earning income to keep this game that I love playing alive and well. The simple fact is that those who are crying that these things can be purchased for cash in addition to being able to be purchased with ingame gold are lazy, IMHO.
If having a fancy virtual home or a title that has no meaning outside of vanity / roleplaying is that important to you, then grow up and do what a normal adult would do -- either spend the time to get that much ingame gold or (shock) get a job and with your discretionary entertainment money buy it in the crown store! Problem solved!
And this is not in the least bit lore-breaking. In the real world (from which the Elder Scrolls mythos clearly draw much of their inspiration) titles of nobility could be earned in a wide variety of ways. The most common method, which required NO effort on the part of the recipient, was to simply be born into a family with a hereditary title of nobility.
Could someone earn a title of nobility by some extraordinary service to the crown? Absolutely.
Were people able to purchase titles of nobility for payments of cold hard cash? You betcha! For one example, King James I of England created the title of Baronet for the sole purpose of raising money. A person was able to buy that title from the king, he needed the cash.
https://britannica.com/topic/baronet
I have 11 million gold and will be buying all 3 manor for the title. It took me and my wife around 10 months of farming and selling to get that much gold, therefore I completely disagree that someone can just pop in their credit card details and get what we worked so hard for so many months for
LOL, so do you think that other folks did not work hard for their real world money?
Without a constant influx of real world money, this game will eventually die. Do you not understand that? The developers have to get a paycheck so that they can have a roof over their heads, food to eat, and so on.
These homes and titles are completely vanity / roleplay items. If you meet a Count / Countess in Cyrodill or in a Veteran Dungeon that title will not mean diddly-squat. They might be great players, or they might be horrible.
Raising money by selling vanity cosmetic items is exactly what ZOS should continue to do.
I never said people who spend real money on the titles don't work hard.
Also I would suggest you quote my whole response instead of quoting a part of it and ignoring the bit where I said I understand that ZOS needs to make money.
''I also understand that ZOS is a business and at the end of the day, having the title available from the crown store might make them some extra money so I've come to terms with it.'' is what I said, in case anyone is interested.
Edited at 3:30pm and his reply was at 3:38pm.
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Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No
I'll just tell everyone I meet that no I'm not a kid with rich parents who begged his daddy to buy 20,000 crowns, but I infact bought the houses with gold earned in gameI am really laughing out loud at some of the special snowflakes who are crying because spending real money on a cosmetic vanity item (a manor) will also include with the purchase a cosmetic vanity item (a title).
I guess some of the little kids grew up with participation trophies and don't know any better.
Selling vanity items for real money in the crown store is a completely legitimate way of earning income to keep this game that I love playing alive and well. The simple fact is that those who are crying that these things can be purchased for cash in addition to being able to be purchased with ingame gold are lazy, IMHO.
If having a fancy virtual home or a title that has no meaning outside of vanity / roleplaying is that important to you, then grow up and do what a normal adult would do -- either spend the time to get that much ingame gold or (shock) get a job and with your discretionary entertainment money buy it in the crown store! Problem solved!
And this is not in the least bit lore-breaking. In the real world (from which the Elder Scrolls mythos clearly draw much of their inspiration) titles of nobility could be earned in a wide variety of ways. The most common method, which required NO effort on the part of the recipient, was to simply be born into a family with a hereditary title of nobility.
Could someone earn a title of nobility by some extraordinary service to the crown? Absolutely.
Were people able to purchase titles of nobility for payments of cold hard cash? You betcha! For one example, King James I of England created the title of Baronet for the sole purpose of raising money. A person was able to buy that title from the king, he needed the cash.
https://britannica.com/topic/baronet
Sure, because I expect so many people to ask me "Did mommy and daddy buy that amazing title for you Mr 37 year old man?" I'll feel so respected when I can say no I bought it with ingame gold I saved for many moons when others were gearing alts for progression raids and getting flawless conqueror and Grand Overlords titles.
I have flawless conqueror title. That has nothing to do with anything lol
Anyway what you're suggesting is that trading in ESO is inferior to doing end game pve or pvp content, so you have the right to just bypass the trading content which does actually take skill and effort and time.
Then I would suggest they allow us to purchase the MoL skin, maelstrom weapons and former emperor title/emperor costume etc from the crown store.
(I have the skins/vma/master weapons already but I'd love to chuck some money at the screen and get former emp / emp costume
) Edited by Voxicity on January 8, 2017 3:54PM1 -
Orthodoxa✭✭✭YesI'll just tell everyone I meet that no I'm not a kid with rich parents who begged his daddy to buy 20,000 crowns, but I infact bought the houses with gold earned in game
LOL, the stereotypes thrown around this thread over an imaginary title in a video game are really quite hilarious.
I don't have rich parents, they grew up dirt poor during the Great Depression and one of them has already passed on.
I'm not a spoiled little rich kid, I work very hard as a welder.
Because I spend so much of my time doing very difficult real-life work, I only get to play for limited amounts of free time on weekends. I don't have millions of ingame gold because I've never been able to get into one of the exclusive trading guilds that control the ingame economy. But I have real life money that I might choose to spend on a vanity item in the game, and if it makes you upset then really it is your own problem. If you actually derive self-worth from some video-game status symbol, then that is incredibly sad, IMHO.
Would you actually spend time in the game announcing to everyone that you meet that you got a manor and title by using ingame gold, and do you actually think that anyone that you announce it to will be in the least bit impressed? I suspect the most common reactions will be either uncomfortable silence or outright laughter.4 -
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✭✭✭OtherYes, if they have the achievements that would have been needed to buy with gold completed.
No, if they do not. At least till the time they complete them.
I want to add to this after seeing the amount of "No"s
Flat out not allowing them to get the achievements and title when buying from the Crown Store would lock people out of ever being able to get the achievement. You can't buy a house you already own. And if anyone thinks they would cut off people who spend money on the game from ever being able to obtain an achievement... Well, they wont. Nor should they.
It would be better to just completely remove the achievements/titles from everyone then to just remove them from one part of the playerbase.
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Orthodoxa✭✭✭YesI am really laughing out loud at some of the special snowflakes who are crying because spending real money on a cosmetic vanity item (a manor) will also include with the purchase a cosmetic vanity item (a title).
I guess some of the little kids grew up with participation trophies and don't know any better.
Selling vanity items for real money in the crown store is a completely legitimate way of earning income to keep this game that I love playing alive and well. The simple fact is that those who are crying that these things can be purchased for cash in addition to being able to be purchased with ingame gold are lazy, IMHO.
If having a fancy virtual home or a title that has no meaning outside of vanity / roleplaying is that important to you, then grow up and do what a normal adult would do -- either spend the time to get that much ingame gold or (shock) get a job and with your discretionary entertainment money buy it in the crown store! Problem solved!
And this is not in the least bit lore-breaking. In the real world (from which the Elder Scrolls mythos clearly draw much of their inspiration) titles of nobility could be earned in a wide variety of ways. The most common method, which required NO effort on the part of the recipient, was to simply be born into a family with a hereditary title of nobility.
Could someone earn a title of nobility by some extraordinary service to the crown? Absolutely.
Were people able to purchase titles of nobility for payments of cold hard cash? You betcha! For one example, King James I of England created the title of Baronet for the sole purpose of raising money. A person was able to buy that title from the king, he needed the cash.
https://britannica.com/topic/baronet
I have 11 million gold and will be buying all 3 manor for the title. It took me and my wife around 10 months of farming and selling to get that much gold, therefore I completely disagree that someone can just pop in their credit card details and get what we worked so hard for so many months for
LOL, so do you think that other folks did not work hard for their real world money?
Without a constant influx of real world money, this game will eventually die. Do you not understand that? The developers have to get a paycheck so that they can have a roof over their heads, food to eat, and so on.
These homes and titles are completely vanity / roleplay items. If you meet a Count / Countess in Cyrodill or in a Veteran Dungeon that title will not mean diddly-squat. They might be great players, or they might be horrible.
Raising money by selling vanity cosmetic items is exactly what ZOS should continue to do.
I never said people who spend real money on the titles don't work hard.
Also I would suggest you quote my whole response instead of quoting a part of it and ignoring the bit where I said I understand that ZOS needs to make money.
''I also understand that ZOS is a business and at the end of the day, having the title available from the crown store might make them some extra money so I've come to terms with it.'' is what I said, in case anyone is interested.
Edited at 3:30pm and his reply was at 3:38pm.
Nice try matey
LOL, you edited your original statement after I replied to it.
I replied to your original FULL statement.
Nice try, but no cigar.
Anyone can look at your original statement and read at the bottom that you edited it. So lying about it after the fact does not help your case at all.
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Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoI am really laughing out loud at some of the special snowflakes who are crying because spending real money on a cosmetic vanity item (a manor) will also include with the purchase a cosmetic vanity item (a title).
I guess some of the little kids grew up with participation trophies and don't know any better.
Selling vanity items for real money in the crown store is a completely legitimate way of earning income to keep this game that I love playing alive and well. The simple fact is that those who are crying that these things can be purchased for cash in addition to being able to be purchased with ingame gold are lazy, IMHO.
If having a fancy virtual home or a title that has no meaning outside of vanity / roleplaying is that important to you, then grow up and do what a normal adult would do -- either spend the time to get that much ingame gold or (shock) get a job and with your discretionary entertainment money buy it in the crown store! Problem solved!
And this is not in the least bit lore-breaking. In the real world (from which the Elder Scrolls mythos clearly draw much of their inspiration) titles of nobility could be earned in a wide variety of ways. The most common method, which required NO effort on the part of the recipient, was to simply be born into a family with a hereditary title of nobility.
Could someone earn a title of nobility by some extraordinary service to the crown? Absolutely.
Were people able to purchase titles of nobility for payments of cold hard cash? You betcha! For one example, King James I of England created the title of Baronet for the sole purpose of raising money. A person was able to buy that title from the king, he needed the cash.
https://britannica.com/topic/baronet
I have 11 million gold and will be buying all 3 manor for the title. It took me and my wife around 10 months of farming and selling to get that much gold, therefore I completely disagree that someone can just pop in their credit card details and get what we worked so hard for so many months for
LOL, so do you think that other folks did not work hard for their real world money?
Without a constant influx of real world money, this game will eventually die. Do you not understand that? The developers have to get a paycheck so that they can have a roof over their heads, food to eat, and so on.
These homes and titles are completely vanity / roleplay items. If you meet a Count / Countess in Cyrodill or in a Veteran Dungeon that title will not mean diddly-squat. They might be great players, or they might be horrible.
Raising money by selling vanity cosmetic items is exactly what ZOS should continue to do.
I never said people who spend real money on the titles don't work hard.
Also I would suggest you quote my whole response instead of quoting a part of it and ignoring the bit where I said I understand that ZOS needs to make money.
''I also understand that ZOS is a business and at the end of the day, having the title available from the crown store might make them some extra money so I've come to terms with it.'' is what I said, in case anyone is interested.
Edited at 3:30pm and his reply was at 3:38pm.
Nice try matey
LOL, you edited your original statement after I replied to it.
I replied to your original FULL statement.
Nice try, but no cigar.
Anyone can look at your original statement and read at the bottom that you edited it. So lying about it after the fact does not help your case at all.
My post ''Edited by KaiVox22 on January 8, 2017 3:30PM''
Your post ''#126
3:38PM''
This means that my edit was done 8 minutes before you replied to the post (and decided to ignore the edited part and try to ridicule me for something I'd already established 8 minutes before you replied.)
EDIT: SORRY I MISSED A BRACKETEdited by Voxicity on January 8, 2017 4:06PM0 -
Thybrinena✭✭✭✭Other[/quote]
I have flawless conqueror title. That has nothing to do with anything lol
Anyway what you're suggesting is that trading in ESO is inferior to doing end game pve or pvp content, so you have the right to just bypass the trading content which does actually take skill and effort and time. )[/quote]
No sir, what you're suggesting is that trading in ESO makes you superior to those that decide to spend their ingame time doing other things and therefore can't indulge in a vanity item such as housing. I would never advocate buying the Emperorship as the route to that title is not pure vanity, where whilst you may have 11 million gold you did not spend 10 months saving for housing.
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Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No
I have flawless conqueror title. That has nothing to do with anything lol
Anyway what you're suggesting is that trading in ESO is inferior to doing end game pve or pvp content, so you have the right to just bypass the trading content which does actually take skill and effort and time. )[/quote]
No sir, what you're suggesting is that trading in ESO makes you superior to those that decide to spend their ingame time doing other things and therefore can't indulge in a vanity item such as housing. I would never advocate buying the Emperorship as the route to that title is not pure vanity, where whilst you may have 11 million gold you did not spend 10 months saving for housing.
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NoNo because you should work for it actually playing the game.Feel free to add me. I'm part of the Gummy Guars PC/Mac NA server. Master crafter and working on getting 9 traits on everything1 -
Orthodoxa✭✭✭YesI am really laughing out loud at some of the special snowflakes who are crying because spending real money on a cosmetic vanity item (a manor) will also include with the purchase a cosmetic vanity item (a title).
I guess some of the little kids grew up with participation trophies and don't know any better.
Selling vanity items for real money in the crown store is a completely legitimate way of earning income to keep this game that I love playing alive and well. The simple fact is that those who are crying that these things can be purchased for cash in addition to being able to be purchased with ingame gold are lazy, IMHO.
If having a fancy virtual home or a title that has no meaning outside of vanity / roleplaying is that important to you, then grow up and do what a normal adult would do -- either spend the time to get that much ingame gold or (shock) get a job and with your discretionary entertainment money buy it in the crown store! Problem solved!
And this is not in the least bit lore-breaking. In the real world (from which the Elder Scrolls mythos clearly draw much of their inspiration) titles of nobility could be earned in a wide variety of ways. The most common method, which required NO effort on the part of the recipient, was to simply be born into a family with a hereditary title of nobility.
Could someone earn a title of nobility by some extraordinary service to the crown? Absolutely.
Were people able to purchase titles of nobility for payments of cold hard cash? You betcha! For one example, King James I of England created the title of Baronet for the sole purpose of raising money. A person was able to buy that title from the king, he needed the cash.
https://britannica.com/topic/baronet
I have 11 million gold and will be buying all 3 manor for the title. It took me and my wife around 10 months of farming and selling to get that much gold, therefore I completely disagree that someone can just pop in their credit card details and get what we worked so hard for so many months for
LOL, so do you think that other folks did not work hard for their real world money?
Without a constant influx of real world money, this game will eventually die. Do you not understand that? The developers have to get a paycheck so that they can have a roof over their heads, food to eat, and so on.
These homes and titles are completely vanity / roleplay items. If you meet a Count / Countess in Cyrodill or in a Veteran Dungeon that title will not mean diddly-squat. They might be great players, or they might be horrible.
Raising money by selling vanity cosmetic items is exactly what ZOS should continue to do.
I never said people who spend real money on the titles don't work hard.
Also I would suggest you quote my whole response instead of quoting a part of it and ignoring the bit where I said I understand that ZOS needs to make money.
''I also understand that ZOS is a business and at the end of the day, having the title available from the crown store might make them some extra money so I've come to terms with it.'' is what I said, in case anyone is interested.
Edited at 3:30pm and his reply was at 3:38pm.
Nice try matey
LOL, you edited your original statement after I replied to it.
I replied to your original FULL statement.
Nice try, but no cigar.
Anyone can look at your original statement and read at the bottom that you edited it. So lying about it after the fact does not help your case at all.
My post ''Edited by KaiVox22 on January 8, 2017 3:30PM''
Your post ''#126
3:38PM''
This means that my edit was done 8 minutes before you replied to the post (and decided to ignore the edited part and try to ridicule me for something I'd already established 8 minutes before you replied.
No, all it means is that during the time that it took for me to write my reply to your original unedited post, I did not refresh my browser because the act of doing so would ruin my reply.
If you are so ***-retentive that you think that people will open another tab and refresh a thread just to see if someone has edited the comments that they are replying to while they are in the process of writing a reply, then you truly are a very special snowflake.
I think now if the real world price isn't too high that I'll buy a manor / title with real money and if anyone asks... I'll tell them that I "earned" it with ingame gold, ROTFLOL. You have inspired me.
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Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoI am really laughing out loud at some of the special snowflakes who are crying because spending real money on a cosmetic vanity item (a manor) will also include with the purchase a cosmetic vanity item (a title).
I guess some of the little kids grew up with participation trophies and don't know any better.
Selling vanity items for real money in the crown store is a completely legitimate way of earning income to keep this game that I love playing alive and well. The simple fact is that those who are crying that these things can be purchased for cash in addition to being able to be purchased with ingame gold are lazy, IMHO.
If having a fancy virtual home or a title that has no meaning outside of vanity / roleplaying is that important to you, then grow up and do what a normal adult would do -- either spend the time to get that much ingame gold or (shock) get a job and with your discretionary entertainment money buy it in the crown store! Problem solved!
And this is not in the least bit lore-breaking. In the real world (from which the Elder Scrolls mythos clearly draw much of their inspiration) titles of nobility could be earned in a wide variety of ways. The most common method, which required NO effort on the part of the recipient, was to simply be born into a family with a hereditary title of nobility.
Could someone earn a title of nobility by some extraordinary service to the crown? Absolutely.
Were people able to purchase titles of nobility for payments of cold hard cash? You betcha! For one example, King James I of England created the title of Baronet for the sole purpose of raising money. A person was able to buy that title from the king, he needed the cash.
https://britannica.com/topic/baronet
I have 11 million gold and will be buying all 3 manor for the title. It took me and my wife around 10 months of farming and selling to get that much gold, therefore I completely disagree that someone can just pop in their credit card details and get what we worked so hard for so many months for
LOL, so do you think that other folks did not work hard for their real world money?
Without a constant influx of real world money, this game will eventually die. Do you not understand that? The developers have to get a paycheck so that they can have a roof over their heads, food to eat, and so on.
These homes and titles are completely vanity / roleplay items. If you meet a Count / Countess in Cyrodill or in a Veteran Dungeon that title will not mean diddly-squat. They might be great players, or they might be horrible.
Raising money by selling vanity cosmetic items is exactly what ZOS should continue to do.
I never said people who spend real money on the titles don't work hard.
Also I would suggest you quote my whole response instead of quoting a part of it and ignoring the bit where I said I understand that ZOS needs to make money.
''I also understand that ZOS is a business and at the end of the day, having the title available from the crown store might make them some extra money so I've come to terms with it.'' is what I said, in case anyone is interested.
Edited at 3:30pm and his reply was at 3:38pm.
Nice try matey
LOL, you edited your original statement after I replied to it.
I replied to your original FULL statement.
Nice try, but no cigar.
Anyone can look at your original statement and read at the bottom that you edited it. So lying about it after the fact does not help your case at all.
My post ''Edited by KaiVox22 on January 8, 2017 3:30PM''
Your post ''#126
3:38PM''
This means that my edit was done 8 minutes before you replied to the post (and decided to ignore the edited part and try to ridicule me for something I'd already established 8 minutes before you replied.
No, all it means is that during the time that it took for me to write my reply to your original unedited post, I did not refresh my browser because the act of doing so would ruin my reply.
If you are so ***-retentive that you think that people will open another tab and refresh a thread just to see if someone has edited the comments that they are replying to while they are in the process of writing a reply, then you truly are a very special snowflake.
I think now if the real world price isn't too high that I'll buy a manor / title with real money and if anyone asks... I'll tell them that I "earned" it with ingame gold, ROTFLOL. You have inspired me.
Oh, my apologies. I didn't think it would take someone 8 minutes to reply to 2 and a half lines of text
Anyway thanks for the discussion0 -
Orthodoxa✭✭✭YesI am really laughing out loud at some of the special snowflakes who are crying because spending real money on a cosmetic vanity item (a manor) will also include with the purchase a cosmetic vanity item (a title).
I guess some of the little kids grew up with participation trophies and don't know any better.
Selling vanity items for real money in the crown store is a completely legitimate way of earning income to keep this game that I love playing alive and well. The simple fact is that those who are crying that these things can be purchased for cash in addition to being able to be purchased with ingame gold are lazy, IMHO.
If having a fancy virtual home or a title that has no meaning outside of vanity / roleplaying is that important to you, then grow up and do what a normal adult would do -- either spend the time to get that much ingame gold or (shock) get a job and with your discretionary entertainment money buy it in the crown store! Problem solved!
And this is not in the least bit lore-breaking. In the real world (from which the Elder Scrolls mythos clearly draw much of their inspiration) titles of nobility could be earned in a wide variety of ways. The most common method, which required NO effort on the part of the recipient, was to simply be born into a family with a hereditary title of nobility.
Could someone earn a title of nobility by some extraordinary service to the crown? Absolutely.
Were people able to purchase titles of nobility for payments of cold hard cash? You betcha! For one example, King James I of England created the title of Baronet for the sole purpose of raising money. A person was able to buy that title from the king, he needed the cash.
https://britannica.com/topic/baronet
I have 11 million gold and will be buying all 3 manor for the title. It took me and my wife around 10 months of farming and selling to get that much gold, therefore I completely disagree that someone can just pop in their credit card details and get what we worked so hard for so many months for
LOL, so do you think that other folks did not work hard for their real world money?
Without a constant influx of real world money, this game will eventually die. Do you not understand that? The developers have to get a paycheck so that they can have a roof over their heads, food to eat, and so on.
These homes and titles are completely vanity / roleplay items. If you meet a Count / Countess in Cyrodill or in a Veteran Dungeon that title will not mean diddly-squat. They might be great players, or they might be horrible.
Raising money by selling vanity cosmetic items is exactly what ZOS should continue to do.
I never said people who spend real money on the titles don't work hard.
Also I would suggest you quote my whole response instead of quoting a part of it and ignoring the bit where I said I understand that ZOS needs to make money.
''I also understand that ZOS is a business and at the end of the day, having the title available from the crown store might make them some extra money so I've come to terms with it.'' is what I said, in case anyone is interested.
Edited at 3:30pm and his reply was at 3:38pm.
Nice try matey
LOL, you edited your original statement after I replied to it.
I replied to your original FULL statement.
Nice try, but no cigar.
Anyone can look at your original statement and read at the bottom that you edited it. So lying about it after the fact does not help your case at all.
My post ''Edited by KaiVox22 on January 8, 2017 3:30PM''
Your post ''#126
3:38PM''
This means that my edit was done 8 minutes before you replied to the post (and decided to ignore the edited part and try to ridicule me for something I'd already established 8 minutes before you replied.
No, all it means is that during the time that it took for me to write my reply to your original unedited post, I did not refresh my browser because the act of doing so would ruin my reply.
If you are so ***-retentive that you think that people will open another tab and refresh a thread just to see if someone has edited the comments that they are replying to while they are in the process of writing a reply, then you truly are a very special snowflake.
I think now if the real world price isn't too high that I'll buy a manor / title with real money and if anyone asks... I'll tell them that I "earned" it with ingame gold, ROTFLOL. You have inspired me.
Oh, my apologies. I didn't think it would take someone 8 minutes to reply to 2 and a half lines of text
Anyway thanks for the discussion
I know that it is shocking, but in the real world sometimes people have multiple things going on at the same time.
And no worries, this has been extremely entertaining for me. The idea that some folks would get so extremely upset at imaginary titles in a video game being able to be purchased with real world money, or that they actually believe that other people will in some way look upon them with awe and admiration if they announce that they "earned" it with ingame gold is absolutely hilarious to me.
It's kind of like when a kid at my workplace announced to one and all that he had gotten some sort of X-Box achievement -- the only reaction that he got from co-workers was scorn and laughter.
If you actually believe that having a virtual title in a video game will garner you respect and admiration from other people, then that is both hilarious and very sad at the same time.
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Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoI am really laughing out loud at some of the special snowflakes who are crying because spending real money on a cosmetic vanity item (a manor) will also include with the purchase a cosmetic vanity item (a title).
I guess some of the little kids grew up with participation trophies and don't know any better.
Selling vanity items for real money in the crown store is a completely legitimate way of earning income to keep this game that I love playing alive and well. The simple fact is that those who are crying that these things can be purchased for cash in addition to being able to be purchased with ingame gold are lazy, IMHO.
If having a fancy virtual home or a title that has no meaning outside of vanity / roleplaying is that important to you, then grow up and do what a normal adult would do -- either spend the time to get that much ingame gold or (shock) get a job and with your discretionary entertainment money buy it in the crown store! Problem solved!
And this is not in the least bit lore-breaking. In the real world (from which the Elder Scrolls mythos clearly draw much of their inspiration) titles of nobility could be earned in a wide variety of ways. The most common method, which required NO effort on the part of the recipient, was to simply be born into a family with a hereditary title of nobility.
Could someone earn a title of nobility by some extraordinary service to the crown? Absolutely.
Were people able to purchase titles of nobility for payments of cold hard cash? You betcha! For one example, King James I of England created the title of Baronet for the sole purpose of raising money. A person was able to buy that title from the king, he needed the cash.
https://britannica.com/topic/baronet
I have 11 million gold and will be buying all 3 manor for the title. It took me and my wife around 10 months of farming and selling to get that much gold, therefore I completely disagree that someone can just pop in their credit card details and get what we worked so hard for so many months for
LOL, so do you think that other folks did not work hard for their real world money?
Without a constant influx of real world money, this game will eventually die. Do you not understand that? The developers have to get a paycheck so that they can have a roof over their heads, food to eat, and so on.
These homes and titles are completely vanity / roleplay items. If you meet a Count / Countess in Cyrodill or in a Veteran Dungeon that title will not mean diddly-squat. They might be great players, or they might be horrible.
Raising money by selling vanity cosmetic items is exactly what ZOS should continue to do.
I never said people who spend real money on the titles don't work hard.
Also I would suggest you quote my whole response instead of quoting a part of it and ignoring the bit where I said I understand that ZOS needs to make money.
''I also understand that ZOS is a business and at the end of the day, having the title available from the crown store might make them some extra money so I've come to terms with it.'' is what I said, in case anyone is interested.
Edited at 3:30pm and his reply was at 3:38pm.
Nice try matey
LOL, you edited your original statement after I replied to it.
I replied to your original FULL statement.
Nice try, but no cigar.
Anyone can look at your original statement and read at the bottom that you edited it. So lying about it after the fact does not help your case at all.
My post ''Edited by KaiVox22 on January 8, 2017 3:30PM''
Your post ''#126
3:38PM''
This means that my edit was done 8 minutes before you replied to the post (and decided to ignore the edited part and try to ridicule me for something I'd already established 8 minutes before you replied.
No, all it means is that during the time that it took for me to write my reply to your original unedited post, I did not refresh my browser because the act of doing so would ruin my reply.
If you are so ***-retentive that you think that people will open another tab and refresh a thread just to see if someone has edited the comments that they are replying to while they are in the process of writing a reply, then you truly are a very special snowflake.
I think now if the real world price isn't too high that I'll buy a manor / title with real money and if anyone asks... I'll tell them that I "earned" it with ingame gold, ROTFLOL. You have inspired me.
Oh, my apologies. I didn't think it would take someone 8 minutes to reply to 2 and a half lines of text
Anyway thanks for the discussion
I know that it is shocking, but in the real world sometimes people have multiple things going on at the same time.
And no worries, this has been extremely entertaining for me. The idea that some folks would get so extremely upset at imaginary titles in a video game being able to be purchased with real world money, or that they actually believe that other people will in some way look upon them with awe and admiration if they announce that they "earned" it with ingame gold is absolutely hilarious to me.
It's kind of like when a kid at my workplace announced to one and all that he had gotten some sort of X-Box achievement -- the only reaction that he got from co-workers was scorn and laughter.
If you actually believe that having a virtual title in a video game will garner you respect and admiration from other people, then that is both hilarious and very sad at the same time.
Cheers lad
but nah, I've already got flawless conqueror so I've got all the respect and admiration I need
EDIT: second line added at 16:38 UK timeEdited by Voxicity on January 8, 2017 4:38PM0 -
Thybrinena✭✭✭✭OtherI am really laughing out loud at some of the special snowflakes who are crying because spending real money on a cosmetic vanity item (a manor) will also include with the purchase a cosmetic vanity item (a title).
I guess some of the little kids grew up with participation trophies and don't know any better.
Selling vanity items for real money in the crown store is a completely legitimate way of earning income to keep this game that I love playing alive and well. The simple fact is that those who are crying that these things can be purchased for cash in addition to being able to be purchased with ingame gold are lazy, IMHO.
If having a fancy virtual home or a title that has no meaning outside of vanity / roleplaying is that important to you, then grow up and do what a normal adult would do -- either spend the time to get that much ingame gold or (shock) get a job and with your discretionary entertainment money buy it in the crown store! Problem solved!
And this is not in the least bit lore-breaking. In the real world (from which the Elder Scrolls mythos clearly draw much of their inspiration) titles of nobility could be earned in a wide variety of ways. The most common method, which required NO effort on the part of the recipient, was to simply be born into a family with a hereditary title of nobility.
Could someone earn a title of nobility by some extraordinary service to the crown? Absolutely.
Were people able to purchase titles of nobility for payments of cold hard cash? You betcha! For one example, King James I of England created the title of Baronet for the sole purpose of raising money. A person was able to buy that title from the king, he needed the cash.
https://britannica.com/topic/baronet
I have 11 million gold and will be buying all 3 manor for the title. It took me and my wife around 10 months of farming and selling to get that much gold, therefore I completely disagree that someone can just pop in their credit card details and get what we worked so hard for so many months for
LOL, so do you think that other folks did not work hard for their real world money?
Without a constant influx of real world money, this game will eventually die. Do you not understand that? The developers have to get a paycheck so that they can have a roof over their heads, food to eat, and so on.
These homes and titles are completely vanity / roleplay items. If you meet a Count / Countess in Cyrodill or in a Veteran Dungeon that title will not mean diddly-squat. They might be great players, or they might be horrible.
Raising money by selling vanity cosmetic items is exactly what ZOS should continue to do.
I never said people who spend real money on the titles don't work hard.
Also I would suggest you quote my whole response instead of quoting a part of it and ignoring the bit where I said I understand that ZOS needs to make money.
''I also understand that ZOS is a business and at the end of the day, having the title available from the crown store might make them some extra money so I've come to terms with it.'' is what I said, in case anyone is interested.
Edited at 3:30pm and his reply was at 3:38pm.
Nice try matey
LOL, you edited your original statement after I replied to it.
I replied to your original FULL statement.
Nice try, but no cigar.
Anyone can look at your original statement and read at the bottom that you edited it. So lying about it after the fact does not help your case at all.
My post ''Edited by KaiVox22 on January 8, 2017 3:30PM''
Your post ''#126
3:38PM''
This means that my edit was done 8 minutes before you replied to the post (and decided to ignore the edited part and try to ridicule me for something I'd already established 8 minutes before you replied.
No, all it means is that during the time that it took for me to write my reply to your original unedited post, I did not refresh my browser because the act of doing so would ruin my reply.
If you are so ***-retentive that you think that people will open another tab and refresh a thread just to see if someone has edited the comments that they are replying to while they are in the process of writing a reply, then you truly are a very special snowflake.
I think now if the real world price isn't too high that I'll buy a manor / title with real money and if anyone asks... I'll tell them that I "earned" it with ingame gold, ROTFLOL. You have inspired me.
Oh, my apologies. I didn't think it would take someone 8 minutes to reply to 2 and a half lines of text
Anyway thanks for the discussion
I know that it is shocking, but in the real world sometimes people have multiple things going on at the same time.
And no worries, this has been extremely entertaining for me. The idea that some folks would get so extremely upset at imaginary titles in a video game being able to be purchased with real world money, or that they actually believe that other people will in some way look upon them with awe and admiration if they announce that they "earned" it with ingame gold is absolutely hilarious to me.
It's kind of like when a kid at my workplace announced to one and all that he had gotten some sort of X-Box achievement -- the only reaction that he got from co-workers was scorn and laughter.
If you actually believe that having a virtual title in a video game will garner you respect and admiration from other people, then that is both hilarious and very sad at the same time.
Well, I wouldn't go that far. There's certainly titles out there like Flawless Conqueror and Grand Overlord, Hero of Tamriel that I do respect personally, and I'd also respect a title one would get for amounting 11 million gold because that certainly is an achievement that takes time, skill and effort to acquire. Spending that 11 million gold does not however, and most reasonable people that view this objectively would not begrudge others a vanity item that can be bought in the crown store with real life money that supports the game and its future development.
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Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoI am really laughing out loud at some of the special snowflakes who are crying because spending real money on a cosmetic vanity item (a manor) will also include with the purchase a cosmetic vanity item (a title).
I guess some of the little kids grew up with participation trophies and don't know any better.
Selling vanity items for real money in the crown store is a completely legitimate way of earning income to keep this game that I love playing alive and well. The simple fact is that those who are crying that these things can be purchased for cash in addition to being able to be purchased with ingame gold are lazy, IMHO.
If having a fancy virtual home or a title that has no meaning outside of vanity / roleplaying is that important to you, then grow up and do what a normal adult would do -- either spend the time to get that much ingame gold or (shock) get a job and with your discretionary entertainment money buy it in the crown store! Problem solved!
And this is not in the least bit lore-breaking. In the real world (from which the Elder Scrolls mythos clearly draw much of their inspiration) titles of nobility could be earned in a wide variety of ways. The most common method, which required NO effort on the part of the recipient, was to simply be born into a family with a hereditary title of nobility.
Could someone earn a title of nobility by some extraordinary service to the crown? Absolutely.
Were people able to purchase titles of nobility for payments of cold hard cash? You betcha! For one example, King James I of England created the title of Baronet for the sole purpose of raising money. A person was able to buy that title from the king, he needed the cash.
https://britannica.com/topic/baronet
I have 11 million gold and will be buying all 3 manor for the title. It took me and my wife around 10 months of farming and selling to get that much gold, therefore I completely disagree that someone can just pop in their credit card details and get what we worked so hard for so many months for
LOL, so do you think that other folks did not work hard for their real world money?
Without a constant influx of real world money, this game will eventually die. Do you not understand that? The developers have to get a paycheck so that they can have a roof over their heads, food to eat, and so on.
These homes and titles are completely vanity / roleplay items. If you meet a Count / Countess in Cyrodill or in a Veteran Dungeon that title will not mean diddly-squat. They might be great players, or they might be horrible.
Raising money by selling vanity cosmetic items is exactly what ZOS should continue to do.
I never said people who spend real money on the titles don't work hard.
Also I would suggest you quote my whole response instead of quoting a part of it and ignoring the bit where I said I understand that ZOS needs to make money.
''I also understand that ZOS is a business and at the end of the day, having the title available from the crown store might make them some extra money so I've come to terms with it.'' is what I said, in case anyone is interested.
Edited at 3:30pm and his reply was at 3:38pm.
Nice try matey
LOL, you edited your original statement after I replied to it.
I replied to your original FULL statement.
Nice try, but no cigar.
Anyone can look at your original statement and read at the bottom that you edited it. So lying about it after the fact does not help your case at all.
My post ''Edited by KaiVox22 on January 8, 2017 3:30PM''
Your post ''#126
3:38PM''
This means that my edit was done 8 minutes before you replied to the post (and decided to ignore the edited part and try to ridicule me for something I'd already established 8 minutes before you replied.
No, all it means is that during the time that it took for me to write my reply to your original unedited post, I did not refresh my browser because the act of doing so would ruin my reply.
If you are so ***-retentive that you think that people will open another tab and refresh a thread just to see if someone has edited the comments that they are replying to while they are in the process of writing a reply, then you truly are a very special snowflake.
I think now if the real world price isn't too high that I'll buy a manor / title with real money and if anyone asks... I'll tell them that I "earned" it with ingame gold, ROTFLOL. You have inspired me.
Oh, my apologies. I didn't think it would take someone 8 minutes to reply to 2 and a half lines of text
Anyway thanks for the discussion
I know that it is shocking, but in the real world sometimes people have multiple things going on at the same time.
And no worries, this has been extremely entertaining for me. The idea that some folks would get so extremely upset at imaginary titles in a video game being able to be purchased with real world money, or that they actually believe that other people will in some way look upon them with awe and admiration if they announce that they "earned" it with ingame gold is absolutely hilarious to me.
It's kind of like when a kid at my workplace announced to one and all that he had gotten some sort of X-Box achievement -- the only reaction that he got from co-workers was scorn and laughter.
If you actually believe that having a virtual title in a video game will garner you respect and admiration from other people, then that is both hilarious and very sad at the same time.
Well, I wouldn't go that far. There's certainly titles out there like Flawless Conqueror and Grand Overlord, Hero of Tamriel that I do respect personally, and I'd also respect a title one would get for amounting 11 million gold because that certainly is an achievement that takes time, skill and effort to acquire. Spending that 11 million gold does not however, and most reasonable people that view this objectively would not begrudge others a vanity item that can be bought in the crown store with real life money that supports the game and its future development.
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Ulfgarde✭✭✭✭✭NoNo.
Why reward anyone who pays real world money for something that takes MUCH more in-game effort to accomplish?
Doesn't make sense to me. I probably won't even buy the manors despite the fact I could afford one. They aren't that nice-looking tbh.Edited by Ulfgarde on January 8, 2017 4:46PMVery athletic eso player
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Orthodoxa✭✭✭YesI am really laughing out loud at some of the special snowflakes who are crying because spending real money on a cosmetic vanity item (a manor) will also include with the purchase a cosmetic vanity item (a title).
I guess some of the little kids grew up with participation trophies and don't know any better.
Selling vanity items for real money in the crown store is a completely legitimate way of earning income to keep this game that I love playing alive and well. The simple fact is that those who are crying that these things can be purchased for cash in addition to being able to be purchased with ingame gold are lazy, IMHO.
If having a fancy virtual home or a title that has no meaning outside of vanity / roleplaying is that important to you, then grow up and do what a normal adult would do -- either spend the time to get that much ingame gold or (shock) get a job and with your discretionary entertainment money buy it in the crown store! Problem solved!
And this is not in the least bit lore-breaking. In the real world (from which the Elder Scrolls mythos clearly draw much of their inspiration) titles of nobility could be earned in a wide variety of ways. The most common method, which required NO effort on the part of the recipient, was to simply be born into a family with a hereditary title of nobility.
Could someone earn a title of nobility by some extraordinary service to the crown? Absolutely.
Were people able to purchase titles of nobility for payments of cold hard cash? You betcha! For one example, King James I of England created the title of Baronet for the sole purpose of raising money. A person was able to buy that title from the king, he needed the cash.
https://britannica.com/topic/baronet
I have 11 million gold and will be buying all 3 manor for the title. It took me and my wife around 10 months of farming and selling to get that much gold, therefore I completely disagree that someone can just pop in their credit card details and get what we worked so hard for so many months for
LOL, so do you think that other folks did not work hard for their real world money?
Without a constant influx of real world money, this game will eventually die. Do you not understand that? The developers have to get a paycheck so that they can have a roof over their heads, food to eat, and so on.
These homes and titles are completely vanity / roleplay items. If you meet a Count / Countess in Cyrodill or in a Veteran Dungeon that title will not mean diddly-squat. They might be great players, or they might be horrible.
Raising money by selling vanity cosmetic items is exactly what ZOS should continue to do.
I never said people who spend real money on the titles don't work hard.
Also I would suggest you quote my whole response instead of quoting a part of it and ignoring the bit where I said I understand that ZOS needs to make money.
''I also understand that ZOS is a business and at the end of the day, having the title available from the crown store might make them some extra money so I've come to terms with it.'' is what I said, in case anyone is interested.
Edited at 3:30pm and his reply was at 3:38pm.
Nice try matey
LOL, you edited your original statement after I replied to it.
I replied to your original FULL statement.
Nice try, but no cigar.
Anyone can look at your original statement and read at the bottom that you edited it. So lying about it after the fact does not help your case at all.
My post ''Edited by KaiVox22 on January 8, 2017 3:30PM''
Your post ''#126
3:38PM''
This means that my edit was done 8 minutes before you replied to the post (and decided to ignore the edited part and try to ridicule me for something I'd already established 8 minutes before you replied.
No, all it means is that during the time that it took for me to write my reply to your original unedited post, I did not refresh my browser because the act of doing so would ruin my reply.
If you are so ***-retentive that you think that people will open another tab and refresh a thread just to see if someone has edited the comments that they are replying to while they are in the process of writing a reply, then you truly are a very special snowflake.
I think now if the real world price isn't too high that I'll buy a manor / title with real money and if anyone asks... I'll tell them that I "earned" it with ingame gold, ROTFLOL. You have inspired me.
Oh, my apologies. I didn't think it would take someone 8 minutes to reply to 2 and a half lines of text
Anyway thanks for the discussion
I know that it is shocking, but in the real world sometimes people have multiple things going on at the same time.
And no worries, this has been extremely entertaining for me. The idea that some folks would get so extremely upset at imaginary titles in a video game being able to be purchased with real world money, or that they actually believe that other people will in some way look upon them with awe and admiration if they announce that they "earned" it with ingame gold is absolutely hilarious to me.
It's kind of like when a kid at my workplace announced to one and all that he had gotten some sort of X-Box achievement -- the only reaction that he got from co-workers was scorn and laughter.
If you actually believe that having a virtual title in a video game will garner you respect and admiration from other people, then that is both hilarious and very sad at the same time.
Cheers lad
but nah, I've already got flawless conqueror so I've got all the respect and admiration I need
EDIT: second line added at 16:38 UK time
But you clearly do not have all of the respect and admiration that you need. You have stated that you will announce to everyone that you meet that you "earned" your housing related titles with ingame gold.
Obviously, your other video-game title did not get you the respect that you crave, or you would not be so upset at the idea that people could purchase a housing title, just like rich folks were able to purchase titles from James I back in the day.
So have a nice day. If the price in real world money is reasonable, I'll enjoy my store-bought manor and store-bought title for what they are -- cosmetic vanity items. Others will scream and rage against capitalism, writing screeds on their I-phones that mommy and daddy most likely bought for them using money earned through that horrid practice, LOL.
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✭✭✭✭✭NoI am really laughing out loud at some of the special snowflakes who are crying because spending real money on a cosmetic vanity item (a manor) will also include with the purchase a cosmetic vanity item (a title).
I guess some of the little kids grew up with participation trophies and don't know any better.
Selling vanity items for real money in the crown store is a completely legitimate way of earning income to keep this game that I love playing alive and well. The simple fact is that those who are crying that these things can be purchased for cash in addition to being able to be purchased with ingame gold are lazy, IMHO.
If having a fancy virtual home or a title that has no meaning outside of vanity / roleplaying is that important to you, then grow up and do what a normal adult would do -- either spend the time to get that much ingame gold or (shock) get a job and with your discretionary entertainment money buy it in the crown store! Problem solved!
And this is not in the least bit lore-breaking. In the real world (from which the Elder Scrolls mythos clearly draw much of their inspiration) titles of nobility could be earned in a wide variety of ways. The most common method, which required NO effort on the part of the recipient, was to simply be born into a family with a hereditary title of nobility.
Could someone earn a title of nobility by some extraordinary service to the crown? Absolutely.
Were people able to purchase titles of nobility for payments of cold hard cash? You betcha! For one example, King James I of England created the title of Baronet for the sole purpose of raising money. A person was able to buy that title from the king, he needed the cash.
https://britannica.com/topic/baronet
I have 11 million gold and will be buying all 3 manor for the title. It took me and my wife around 10 months of farming and selling to get that much gold, therefore I completely disagree that someone can just pop in their credit card details and get what we worked so hard for so many months for
LOL, so do you think that other folks did not work hard for their real world money?
Without a constant influx of real world money, this game will eventually die. Do you not understand that? The developers have to get a paycheck so that they can have a roof over their heads, food to eat, and so on.
These homes and titles are completely vanity / roleplay items. If you meet a Count / Countess in Cyrodill or in a Veteran Dungeon that title will not mean diddly-squat. They might be great players, or they might be horrible.
Raising money by selling vanity cosmetic items is exactly what ZOS should continue to do.
I never said people who spend real money on the titles don't work hard.
Also I would suggest you quote my whole response instead of quoting a part of it and ignoring the bit where I said I understand that ZOS needs to make money.
''I also understand that ZOS is a business and at the end of the day, having the title available from the crown store might make them some extra money so I've come to terms with it.'' is what I said, in case anyone is interested.
Edited at 3:30pm and his reply was at 3:38pm.
Nice try matey
LOL, you edited your original statement after I replied to it.
I replied to your original FULL statement.
Nice try, but no cigar.
Anyone can look at your original statement and read at the bottom that you edited it. So lying about it after the fact does not help your case at all.
My post ''Edited by KaiVox22 on January 8, 2017 3:30PM''
Your post ''#126
3:38PM''
This means that my edit was done 8 minutes before you replied to the post (and decided to ignore the edited part and try to ridicule me for something I'd already established 8 minutes before you replied.
No, all it means is that during the time that it took for me to write my reply to your original unedited post, I did not refresh my browser because the act of doing so would ruin my reply.
If you are so ***-retentive that you think that people will open another tab and refresh a thread just to see if someone has edited the comments that they are replying to while they are in the process of writing a reply, then you truly are a very special snowflake.
I think now if the real world price isn't too high that I'll buy a manor / title with real money and if anyone asks... I'll tell them that I "earned" it with ingame gold, ROTFLOL. You have inspired me.
Oh, my apologies. I didn't think it would take someone 8 minutes to reply to 2 and a half lines of text
Anyway thanks for the discussion
I know that it is shocking, but in the real world sometimes people have multiple things going on at the same time.
And no worries, this has been extremely entertaining for me. The idea that some folks would get so extremely upset at imaginary titles in a video game being able to be purchased with real world money, or that they actually believe that other people will in some way look upon them with awe and admiration if they announce that they "earned" it with ingame gold is absolutely hilarious to me.
It's kind of like when a kid at my workplace announced to one and all that he had gotten some sort of X-Box achievement -- the only reaction that he got from co-workers was scorn and laughter.
If you actually believe that having a virtual title in a video game will garner you respect and admiration from other people, then that is both hilarious and very sad at the same time.
Cheers lad
but nah, I've already got flawless conqueror so I've got all the respect and admiration I need
EDIT: second line added at 16:38 UK time
But you clearly do not have all of the respect and admiration that you need. You have stated that you will announce to everyone that you meet that you "earned" your housing related titles with ingame gold.
Obviously, your other video-game title did not get you the respect that you crave, or you would not be so upset at the idea that people could purchase a housing title, just like rich folks were able to purchase titles from James I back in the day.
So have a nice day. If the price in real world money is reasonable, I'll enjoy my store-bought manor and store-bought title for what they are -- cosmetic vanity items. Others will scream and rage against capitalism, writing screeds on their I-phones that mommy and daddy most likely bought for them using money earned through that horrid practice, LOL.
1) I was joking, sarcasm is a thing in the UK, google might help
2) Flawless conqueror is a sexy title and all I need
3) I'm not upset, I'm farming for mothers sorrow right now and tabbing here when waiting for bosses to spawn, cannot miss this quality bants
4) I don't need a bloody history lesson on British monarchs
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✭✭✭✭NoI am really laughing out loud at some of the special snowflakes who are crying because spending real money on a cosmetic vanity item (a manor) will also include with the purchase a cosmetic vanity item (a title).
I guess some of the little kids grew up with participation trophies and don't know any better.
LOL that you're calling people who DON'T want everyone to access the titles/achievements special snowflakes that need participation trophies. Think you've got things a little backwards.PC/NAMountain God | Leave No Bone Unbroken | Apex Predator | Pure Lunacy | Depths Defier | No Rest for the Wicked | In Defiance of DeathMeet my characters :
Defanged the Devourer | Nature's Wrath | Relentless Raider | True Genius | Bane of Thorns | Subterranean Smasher | Ardent Bibliophile
vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vDSA | vMoL HM | vHoF HM | vAS+2 | vCR+2 | vBRP | vSS HM | vKA | vRGIT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL THE SAME NOW, THANKS ZOS3 -
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✭✭YesFrom previous threads, and my own personal opinion, the ONLY title in the game that matters is Master Angler....
Seriously, its a vanity title. Vanity.
Oh, are those who want it to be exclusively for in game gold / done oodles of quests want it that way as they think it will mean other players will look up to them & think them superior or some such guff? Or demonstrate what a good player they are?
Everyone knows its a vanity title & no-one will care how you got it. It doesn't mean anything.
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✭✭YesGot the houses with gold? Cool
Got the houses with crowns? Cool
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✭✭✭✭✭I am really laughing out loud at some of the special snowflakes who are crying because spending real money on a cosmetic vanity item (a manor) will also include with the purchase a cosmetic vanity item (a title).
I guess some of the little kids grew up with participation trophies and don't know any better.
Selling vanity items for real money in the crown store is a completely legitimate way of earning income to keep this game that I love playing alive and well. The simple fact is that those who are crying that these things can be purchased for cash in addition to being able to be purchased with ingame gold are lazy, IMHO.
If having a fancy virtual home or a title that has no meaning outside of vanity / roleplaying is that important to you, then grow up and do what a normal adult would do -- either spend the time to get that much ingame gold or (shock) get a job and with your discretionary entertainment money buy it in the crown store! Problem solved!
And this is not in the least bit lore-breaking. In the real world (from which the Elder Scrolls mythos clearly draw much of their inspiration) titles of nobility could be earned in a wide variety of ways. The most common method, which required NO effort on the part of the recipient, was to simply be born into a family with a hereditary title of nobility.
Could someone earn a title of nobility by some extraordinary service to the crown? Absolutely.
Were people able to purchase titles of nobility for payments of cold hard cash? You betcha! For one example, King James I of England created the title of Baronet for the sole purpose of raising money. A person was able to buy that title from the king, he needed the cash.
https://britannica.com/topic/baronet
I have 11 million gold and will be buying all 3 manor for the title. It took me and my wife around 10 months of farming and selling to get that much gold, therefore I completely disagree that someone can just pop in their credit card details and get what we worked so hard for so many months for
LOL, so do you think that other folks did not work hard for their real world money?
Without a constant influx of real world money, this game will eventually die. Do you not understand that? The developers have to get a paycheck so that they can have a roof over their heads, food to eat, and so on.
These homes and titles are completely vanity / roleplay items. If you meet a Count / Countess in Cyrodill or in a Veteran Dungeon that title will not mean diddly-squat. They might be great players, or they might be horrible.
Raising money by selling vanity cosmetic items is exactly what ZOS should continue to do.
I never said people who spend real money on the titles don't work hard.
Also I would suggest you quote my whole response instead of quoting a part of it and ignoring the bit where I said I understand that ZOS needs to make money.
''I also understand that ZOS is a business and at the end of the day, having the title available from the crown store might make them some extra money so I've come to terms with it.'' is what I said, in case anyone is interested.
Edited at 3:30pm and his reply was at 3:38pm.
Nice try matey
LOL, you edited your original statement after I replied to it.
I replied to your original FULL statement.
Nice try, but no cigar.
Anyone can look at your original statement and read at the bottom that you edited it. So lying about it after the fact does not help your case at all.
My post ''Edited by KaiVox22 on January 8, 2017 3:30PM''
Your post ''#126
3:38PM''
This means that my edit was done 8 minutes before you replied to the post (and decided to ignore the edited part and try to ridicule me for something I'd already established 8 minutes before you replied.
No, all it means is that during the time that it took for me to write my reply to your original unedited post, I did not refresh my browser because the act of doing so would ruin my reply.
If you are so ***-retentive that you think that people will open another tab and refresh a thread just to see if someone has edited the comments that they are replying to while they are in the process of writing a reply, then you truly are a very special snowflake.
I think now if the real world price isn't too high that I'll buy a manor / title with real money and if anyone asks... I'll tell them that I "earned" it with ingame gold, ROTFLOL. You have inspired me.
Oh, my apologies. I didn't think it would take someone 8 minutes to reply to 2 and a half lines of text
Anyway thanks for the discussion
I know that it is shocking, but in the real world sometimes people have multiple things going on at the same time.
And no worries, this has been extremely entertaining for me. The idea that some folks would get so extremely upset at imaginary titles in a video game being able to be purchased with real world money, or that they actually believe that other people will in some way look upon them with awe and admiration if they announce that they "earned" it with ingame gold is absolutely hilarious to me.
It's kind of like when a kid at my workplace announced to one and all that he had gotten some sort of X-Box achievement -- the only reaction that he got from co-workers was scorn and laughter.
If you actually believe that having a virtual title in a video game will garner you respect and admiration from other people, then that is both hilarious and very sad at the same time.
Cheers lad
but nah, I've already got flawless conqueror so I've got all the respect and admiration I need
EDIT: second line added at 16:38 UK time
But you clearly do not have all of the respect and admiration that you need. You have stated that you will announce to everyone that you meet that you "earned" your housing related titles with ingame gold.
Obviously, your other video-game title did not get you the respect that you crave, or you would not be so upset at the idea that people could purchase a housing title, just like rich folks were able to purchase titles from James I back in the day.
So have a nice day. If the price in real world money is reasonable, I'll enjoy my store-bought manor and store-bought title for what they are -- cosmetic vanity items. Others will scream and rage against capitalism, writing screeds on their I-phones that mommy and daddy most likely bought for them using money earned through that horrid practice, LOL.
Someones triggered.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...3 -
Prof_Bawbag✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Other"To earn it the hard way"
Still think this line is hilarious in the context some people are using it. It's almost as if they had to get up 3am to start a 15 hour shift down a coal mine. That their once precious wee soft hands are now callus ridden from all that hard graft.
I'm sorry, I have over 3m in-game gold and never had to leave the comfort of my seat to earn it. I can't even recall breaking out in a sweat.
What exactly is the hard way? Sitting on your arse for weeks on end closing yourself away from the world, whilst a blood cot forms in your left leg? Telling the wife/husband/friends that you can't go out socialising with them because you're on the cusp of hitting it big?1
