WHY THE VMAW LOW LIFE'S! IS THE SKIN REALLY THAT SERIOUS?

prettynink · January 2017

I'm just curious as to why, if someone has the clear, steal someone who has not gotten the clear's instance? Like are you really that inhumane to kick the individual/s that has sat through to the end for countless hours, just to invite all your buddies that have it?. Then you have people that sell spots! I mean c'mon that screams trash to me. Then you have me a female gamer that was fortunate enough not to fall to the fate as so many that I have witnessed get robbed by (elites), I get the clear and try to help out the people who have not ,just to get trashed talked, spat on, harrassed, disrespected, and called every vulgar demeaning name in the book. The toxicity is really, REAL: I don't understand

Unsent.Soul · January 2017

Sounds like you tend to favor the rough crowds. Those seem like fools I don't want/need to be around.

Just ignore and move on, their opinions mean nothing to you.

Waffennacht · January 2017

Something like this hadn't occurred to me, very sad indeed.

I will say this behavior is common and even more so on other games. Neverwinter literally has a guild named (and famous too btw) "Boot n Loot" - this behavior literally occurred on every dungeon run I did for days (so in Neverwinter after you kill boss, before you get any rewards, you can be kicked) that's why I stopped playing.

strikeback1247 · January 2017

"Those non skinned people" That almost sounds racist.

timidobserver · January 2017

Were you guys failing over and over and the leader decided to invite people that could finish it? I can't think of any other reason that might have happened.

prettynink · January 2017

strikeback1247 wrote: »

"Those non skinned people" That almost sounds racist.

oh im so sorry, I will have to edit that. by far Im no rascist. Just really down I'm still getting nasty messages because I tried to help people get their skin

prettynink · January 2017

timidobserver wrote: »

Were you guys failing over and over and the leader decided to invite people that could finish it? I can't think of any other reason that might have happened.

it was only two in the group that has not completed it, but again it was their instance. People that helped them get to the end left, new ones came in, and boom they got kicked

usmcjdking · January 2017

Waffennacht wrote: »

Something like this hadn't occurred to me, very sad indeed.

I will say this behavior is common and even more so on other games. Neverwinter literally has a guild named (and famous too btw) "Boot n Loot" - this behavior literally occurred on every dungeon run I did for days (so in Neverwinter after you kill boss, before you get any rewards, you can be kicked) that's why I stopped playing.

Ahh good ol' boot and loot.

Solo kill the Dracolich on my GF, get one of those sweet ancient swords (name escapes me), instantly kicked.

cpuScientist · January 2017

prettynink wrote: »

I'm just curious as to why, if someone has the clear, steal someone who has not gotten the clear's instance? Like are you really that inhumane to kick the individual/s that has sat through to the end for countless hours, just to invite all your buddies that have it?. Then you have people that sell spots! I mean c'mon that screams trash to me. Then you have me a female gamer that was fortunate enough not to fall to the fate as so many that I have witnessed get the clear and try to help out those non skinned people, just to get trashed talked, spat on, harrassed, disrespected, and called every vulgar demeaning name in the book. The toxicity is really, REAL: I don't understand

Are you PC NA?

And yes toxicity does exist in this game. But it's due to the mixture of immaturity and competitiveness. They cannot take competition they cannot handle social pressure and have very low SELF esteem. If you don't stroke their ego and go along with their views it gets toxic. But that's just how some people are, they need to change it, but few do, as in their mind why would they? Look at all the success they have had and the admiration. But the second those people slip up it's instant rock bottom. I don't really mind these people TBH.

disintegr8 · January 2017

I am assuming you are talking about reaching the final boss and getting kicked in favour of someone friends. If so, then that is not a very nice thing to do to anyone, regardless of what sex they are.

Not sure why you mentioned 'female', I don't offer extra sympathy based on sex, race, colour, religion, etc. Once someone logs onto the game they are no more or less special that anyone else playing the game.

prettynink · January 2017

Waffennacht wrote: »

Something like this hadn't occurred to me, very sad indeed.

I will say this behavior is common and even more so on other games. Neverwinter literally has a guild named (and famous too btw) "Boot n Loot" - this behavior literally occurred on every dungeon run I did for days (so in Neverwinter after you kill boss, before you get any rewards, you can be kicked) that's why I stopped playing.

yes but WHY?. like its a game, are we not supposed to help each other out?

prettynink · January 2017

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

Sounds like you tend to favor the rough crowds. Those seem like fools I don't want/need to be around.

Just ignore and move on, their opinions mean nothing to you.

yea no, I just like to help out

I'm rethinking if I should continue.

prettynink · January 2017

disintegr8 wrote: »

I am assuming you are talking about reaching the final boss and getting kicked in favour of someone friends. If so, then that is not a very nice thing to do to anyone, regardless of what sex they are.

Not sure why you mentioned 'female', I don't offer extra sympathy based on sex, race, colour, religion, etc. Once someone logs onto the game they are no more or less special that anyone else playing the game.

yes, these precisely.

I mentioned that I'm a female, well because I feel as though I ought to enlighten the community that as some guys seem to prefer to bash a female vs a male. Did I ask for your sympathy?? NO

prettynink · January 2017

cpuScientist wrote: »

prettynink wrote: »

I'm just curious as to why, if someone has the clear, steal someone who has not gotten the clear's instance? Like are you really that inhumane to kick the individual/s that has sat through to the end for countless hours, just to invite all your buddies that have it?. Then you have people that sell spots! I mean c'mon that screams trash to me. Then you have me a female gamer that was fortunate enough not to fall to the fate as so many that I have witnessed get the clear and try to help out those non skinned people, just to get trashed talked, spat on, harrassed, disrespected, and called every vulgar demeaning name in the book. The toxicity is really, REAL: I don't understand

Are you PC NA?

And yes toxicity does exist in this game. But it's due to the mixture of immaturity and competitiveness. They cannot take competition they cannot handle social pressure and have very low SELF esteem. If you don't stroke their ego and go along with their views it gets toxic. But that's just how some people are, they need to change it, but few do, as in their mind why would they? Look at all the success they have had and the admiration. But the second those people slip up it's instant rock bottom. I don't really mind these people TBH.

xbox NA if that helps.
I'm starting to realize that. thank you for your feedback. you too @Unsent.Soul . I will try to ignore its hard but, I'll try

starkerealm · January 2017

prettynink wrote: »

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

Sounds like you tend to favor the rough crowds. Those seem like fools I don't want/need to be around.

Just ignore and move on, their opinions mean nothing to you.

yea no, I just like to help out I'm rethinking if I should continue.

If someone's kicking people in a cleared instance, report them. It might not achieve anything, but, hey, it might cost them their account, so that's gotta be some kind of schadenfreude, right?

starkerealm · January 2017

prettynink wrote: »

xbox NA if that helps.

No offense intended, but that might be part of it. My experience has been that XBL pulls in a lower common denominator in general.

prettynink · January 2017

starkerealm wrote: »

prettynink wrote: »

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

Sounds like you tend to favor the rough crowds. Those seem like fools I don't want/need to be around.

Just ignore and move on, their opinions mean nothing to you.

yea no, I just like to help out I'm rethinking if I should continue.

If someone's kicking people in a cleared instance, report them. It might not achieve anything, but, hey, it might cost them their account, so that's gotta be some kind of schadenfreude, right?

it wasnt cleared the two people that made it up to rakkat got kicked.

Frawr · January 2017

Sounds like you need to move to EU

prettynink · January 2017

starkerealm wrote: »

prettynink wrote: »

xbox NA if that helps.

No offense intended, but that might be part of it. My experience has been that XBL pulls in a lower common denominator in general.

lol ouch, but I'm on xbl. I understand where you are coming from though. Trust I'm beginning to to feel that same way

Unsent.Soul · January 2017

prettynink wrote: »

cpuScientist wrote: »

prettynink wrote: »

I'm just curious as to why, if someone has the clear, steal someone who has not gotten the clear's instance? Like are you really that inhumane to kick the individual/s that has sat through to the end for countless hours, just to invite all your buddies that have it?. Then you have people that sell spots! I mean c'mon that screams trash to me. Then you have me a female gamer that was fortunate enough not to fall to the fate as so many that I have witnessed get the clear and try to help out those non skinned people, just to get trashed talked, spat on, harrassed, disrespected, and called every vulgar demeaning name in the book. The toxicity is really, REAL: I don't understand

Are you PC NA?

And yes toxicity does exist in this game. But it's due to the mixture of immaturity and competitiveness. They cannot take competition they cannot handle social pressure and have very low SELF esteem. If you don't stroke their ego and go along with their views it gets toxic. But that's just how some people are, they need to change it, but few do, as in their mind why would they? Look at all the success they have had and the admiration. But the second those people slip up it's instant rock bottom. I don't really mind these people TBH.

xbox NA if that helps.
I'm starting to realize that. thank you for your feedback. you too @Unsent.Soul . I will try to ignore its hard but, I'll try

I'm on xbox NA too!!! Sadly, I've gone as far as running the 3 basic trials on norm, haven't tried the vet or HM of them or MoL. The groups I run around with typically just play to help eachother out and achieve the same goals for everyone. We're not a large guild by no means and are suffering from people that actually enjoy being in guild chat and shooting the breeze with other guildies.

I've met the toxic xbox players and stay clear, sadly you don't know the true nature of some people till its revealed at an inopportune time.

Regardless, best of luck.

OrphanHelgen · January 2017

I dont understand what you are talking about, but I personal don't like the attitude of people want to do vmol just for the "clear" either. Learn it and work for it. I don't support people paying for a clear or getting carried through it.

Libonotus · January 2017

prettynink wrote: »

cpuScientist wrote: »

prettynink wrote: »

I'm just curious as to why, if someone has the clear, steal someone who has not gotten the clear's instance? Like are you really that inhumane to kick the individual/s that has sat through to the end for countless hours, just to invite all your buddies that have it?. Then you have people that sell spots! I mean c'mon that screams trash to me. Then you have me a female gamer that was fortunate enough not to fall to the fate as so many that I have witnessed get the clear and try to help out those non skinned people, just to get trashed talked, spat on, harrassed, disrespected, and called every vulgar demeaning name in the book. The toxicity is really, REAL: I don't understand

Are you PC NA?

And yes toxicity does exist in this game. But it's due to the mixture of immaturity and competitiveness. They cannot take competition they cannot handle social pressure and have very low SELF esteem. If you don't stroke their ego and go along with their views it gets toxic. But that's just how some people are, they need to change it, but few do, as in their mind why would they? Look at all the success they have had and the admiration. But the second those people slip up it's instant rock bottom. I don't really mind these people TBH.

xbox NA if that helps.
I'm starting to realize that. thank you for your feedback. you too @Unsent.Soul . I will try to ignore its hard but, I'll try

There's a Skin reward in VMoL?
Also what's your GT? I need help, I have not cleared it once yet

Unsent.Soul · January 2017

Libonotus wrote: »

prettynink wrote: »

cpuScientist wrote: »

prettynink wrote: »

I'm just curious as to why, if someone has the clear, steal someone who has not gotten the clear's instance? Like are you really that inhumane to kick the individual/s that has sat through to the end for countless hours, just to invite all your buddies that have it?. Then you have people that sell spots! I mean c'mon that screams trash to me. Then you have me a female gamer that was fortunate enough not to fall to the fate as so many that I have witnessed get the clear and try to help out those non skinned people, just to get trashed talked, spat on, harrassed, disrespected, and called every vulgar demeaning name in the book. The toxicity is really, REAL: I don't understand

Are you PC NA?

And yes toxicity does exist in this game. But it's due to the mixture of immaturity and competitiveness. They cannot take competition they cannot handle social pressure and have very low SELF esteem. If you don't stroke their ego and go along with their views it gets toxic. But that's just how some people are, they need to change it, but few do, as in their mind why would they? Look at all the success they have had and the admiration. But the second those people slip up it's instant rock bottom. I don't really mind these people TBH.

xbox NA if that helps.
I'm starting to realize that. thank you for your feedback. you too @Unsent.Soul . I will try to ignore its hard but, I'll try

There's a Skin reward in VMoL?
Also what's your GT? I need help, I have not cleared it once yet

A skin for completing it on cp 160. You can see the achievement in your journal tab.

LadyNalcarya · January 2017

@Libonotus wrote: »

prettynink wrote: »

cpuScientist wrote: »

prettynink wrote: »

I'm just curious as to why, if someone has the clear, steal someone who has not gotten the clear's instance? Like are you really that inhumane to kick the individual/s that has sat through to the end for countless hours, just to invite all your buddies that have it?. Then you have people that sell spots! I mean c'mon that screams trash to me. Then you have me a female gamer that was fortunate enough not to fall to the fate as so many that I have witnessed get the clear and try to help out those non skinned people, just to get trashed talked, spat on, harrassed, disrespected, and called every vulgar demeaning name in the book. The toxicity is really, REAL: I don't understand

Are you PC NA?

And yes toxicity does exist in this game. But it's due to the mixture of immaturity and competitiveness. They cannot take competition they cannot handle social pressure and have very low SELF esteem. If you don't stroke their ego and go along with their views it gets toxic. But that's just how some people are, they need to change it, but few do, as in their mind why would they? Look at all the success they have had and the admiration. But the second those people slip up it's instant rock bottom. I don't really mind these people TBH.

xbox NA if that helps.
I'm starting to realize that. thank you for your feedback. you too @Unsent.Soul . I will try to ignore its hard but, I'll try

There's a Skin reward in VMoL?
Also what's your GT? I need help, I have not cleared it once yet

Yup. Dro-Mathra skin.

andreasranasen · January 2017

WHO groups with random people? Especially vMoL? Lol

Unsent.Soul · January 2017

andreasranasen wrote: »

WHO groups with random people? Especially vMoL? Lol

I don't think the OP was doing VMoL with a pug. Possibly just trying to help friends/guild mates who don't have the skin.

prettynink · January 2017

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

I dont understand what you are talking about, but I personal don't like the attitude of people want to do vmol just for the "clear" either. Learn it and work for it. I don't support people paying for a clear or getting carried through it.

well I apologize for your lack of understanding, I did haphazardly put what I wanted to convey together. Perhaps I will edit later for better literacy. However you were able to understand enough weren't you?

(reduced bait and flame)

Taleof2Cities · January 2017

Wow, one thread where I wish naming and shaming were allowed ...

prettynink · January 2017

Libonotus wrote: »

prettynink wrote: »

cpuScientist wrote: »

prettynink wrote: »

I'm just curious as to why, if someone has the clear, steal someone who has not gotten the clear's instance? Like are you really that inhumane to kick the individual/s that has sat through to the end for countless hours, just to invite all your buddies that have it?. Then you have people that sell spots! I mean c'mon that screams trash to me. Then you have me a female gamer that was fortunate enough not to fall to the fate as so many that I have witnessed get the clear and try to help out those non skinned people, just to get trashed talked, spat on, harrassed, disrespected, and called every vulgar demeaning name in the book. The toxicity is really, REAL: I don't understand

Are you PC NA?

And yes toxicity does exist in this game. But it's due to the mixture of immaturity and competitiveness. They cannot take competition they cannot handle social pressure and have very low SELF esteem. If you don't stroke their ego and go along with their views it gets toxic. But that's just how some people are, they need to change it, but few do, as in their mind why would they? Look at all the success they have had and the admiration. But the second those people slip up it's instant rock bottom. I don't really mind these people TBH.

xbox NA if that helps.
I'm starting to realize that. thank you for your feedback. you too @Unsent.Soul . I will try to ignore its hard but, I'll try

There's a Skin reward in VMoL?
Also what's your GT? I need help, I have not cleared it once yet

Prettyphoenix, yet my helping days are closed for the time being srry. OH btw @Unsent.Soul ty for my christmas funds you sent me @Stopnaggin too

prettynink · January 2017

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

andreasranasen wrote: »

WHO groups with random people? Especially vMoL? Lol

I don't think the OP was doing VMoL with a pug. Possibly just trying to help friends/guild mates who don't have the skin.

ty you @Unsent.Soul you took the words out of my mouth. However I have been in a vmol complete PUG group in which 5 didn't have a clear and well we got er done, got 5 folks their skins and put a smile on their face. So vmol can be pugged it just take a full 12 competent and dedicated people. Sooooo lol at that

prettynink · January 2017

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Wow, one thread where I wish naming and shaming were allowed ...

YESSSSSSS!!! I totally would out everyone I've witnessed steal and or try to sell instances. warn the good people ya know. But noooo sadly I can't