Azura's Star EU nearly free of lag for 6+ months, now it's back in force....

iseko · January 2017

Did not die that much to that train. Counter is: step to the right. Done.

Whatever. Do what you want.

MLRPZ · January 2017

Of course we're gonna do what we want

Wollust · January 2017

iseko wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

iseko wrote: »

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

iseko wrote: »

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

iseko wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

iseko wrote: »

Yellow train running around bleakers chalman ales. Eots choo choo. I dont need an addon to know when they are around. Ping goes up to 400-500 and I know they are around the corner.

DE never left. Not hard to spot man... Light blue tabards.

And the 60+ Decimation/Legion elite + Drachen Garde running around with their entire faction coordinating meteorshowers aren't making it lagg at all ?

What a joke lol.

DG and DE have been around on azura for... Years. Last 6 months no lag when they were there. Now yellow aoe train shows up and it lags. Must be DG/DE offcourse!

Yeah it's definately us causing the lag with our super duper mega train of 12 people. Definately not the 100+ people chasing us to kill us from bleakers up north to the giant village. If you want to make excuses make better ones because we re definately not the only guild on azura using storms or detos. I find it so amusing when suddenly people think 12 people are causing the lag and not the *** of 100 people. Such a joke.

You show up. Lag follows. Just go run in trueflame with the rest of the choo choo trains.

Let me correct it for you. We show up, the entire ep pop shows up then lag follows. But hey we are causing the lag. If that makes you feel better go for it.

Dont give a *** if it is this: you guys show up on other side of map where dc and ep are fighting lag free at ales chalman and bruma. Yellow train shows up and pulls all the pact and dc to bleakers. Not even trying to take it. Just lure more and more dc and ep to farm them. That is what you want. Lure as many people as possible and farm them in your train.

Now wether its you "12" or the 200 people you lured from 2 factions. Its a *** tactic. What you are doing is not hard. But its pure cancerous ***. Technically you arnt the only ones causing lag. But you are setting the stage for it. So *** off to another campaign or actually try and take keeps and have some fun fights.

Or: force guilds like DE and DG to have their players respec their builds so we can form up choo choo eots purge healing spring spamming pricks like you guys and we can bring on the lag.

Your agenda is causing lag. So stop it.

You make it sounds as if we're forcing them to follow us with +100 people

You were. Dc and ep were fighting over dragon/bruma/ales/bleakers and chal. You positioned yourself with your choo choo train in the middle at bleakers and made sure nothing was getting done. Even while your own keeps were being taken. The only thing we could do to try and take something is take down that stupid train.

So yes you forced two factions to chase you down. Else no keeps were getting taken. Alle you care about is luring and farming. And if people go away you follow them to the next siege. Wait till they siege down inner. Then start again. Lurih again two factions. Causig lagg. Either take the keep. Or *** off.

Or keep doing what you are doin and cause lagg and bad play environment.

Hey we're just looking for fun and challenging fights. Not our fault if you guys can only throw numbers at us.

laksikus · January 2017

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

iseko wrote: »

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

iseko wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

iseko wrote: »

Yellow train running around bleakers chalman ales. Eots choo choo. I dont need an addon to know when they are around. Ping goes up to 400-500 and I know they are around the corner.

DE never left. Not hard to spot man... Light blue tabards.

And the 60+ Decimation/Legion elite + Drachen Garde running around with their entire faction coordinating meteorshowers aren't making it lagg at all ?

What a joke lol.

DG and DE have been around on azura for... Years. Last 6 months no lag when they were there. Now yellow aoe train shows up and it lags. Must be DG/DE offcourse!

Yeah it's definately us causing the lag with our super duper mega train of 12 people. Definately not the 100+ people chasing us to kill us from bleakers up north to the giant village. If you want to make excuses make better ones because we re definately not the only guild on azura using storms or detos. I find it so amusing when suddenly people think 12 people are causing the lag and not the *** of 100 people. Such a joke.

You show up. Lag follows. Just go run in trueflame with the rest of the choo choo trains.

Let me correct it for you. We show up, the entire ep pop shows up then lag follows. But hey we are causing the lag. If that makes you feel better go for it.

Liar its not the ep that cause s the lag. Its my lil bombblade trying to suicide kill you xD

KisoValley · January 2017

12 v 100-150

Yet we cause the lag? Interesting.

Lieblingsjunge · January 2017

Tbf. I've played in Azura since 4(?) months now and I rarely experienced lag. But then, population was never locked on all 3 factions anyway.

Now it's always(mostly) locked for all3 factions on primetime. More people => more lag.
And I cant blame people joining Azura tbf, it's the ONLY campaign besides TF that's active. And between Azura's 300 ping on prime time vs. TF's 600, I'll take Azura any day.

When I small-scale on Azura during prime time, here's how it goes: Casually riding towards BRK mine to capture it. 3 mins passing by, the occasional reds show up, no problem. No lag - no FPS drops.

5 minutes: An entire blob of 50+ people show up(Mostly DE/LE/DG or Exterminatus/Redemption/Les Loupus de Nords(?). LAGFEST. Aside from the fact that we're heavily outnumbered, the lag also gets super annoying when 3 enemies dives the flag,1 destro ult each, with the remaining enemies running after, spamming springs/negates/more ults/steelnado etc.

I'm sorry. I know it's hard to admit, but huge 50+ blobs are what's causing lag. I'm sorry if it's hard to acknowledge, realise or otherwise understand. I'll light a candle tonight & pray that one day you'll understand that "The more particles in one spot, the more lag".

Decado · January 2017

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

Decado wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

iseko wrote: »

Yellow train running around bleakers chalman ales. Eots choo choo. I dont need an addon to know when they are around. Ping goes up to 400-500 and I know they are around the corner.

DE never left. Not hard to spot man... Light blue tabards.

And the 60+ Decimation/Legion elite + Drachen Garde running around with their entire faction coordinating meteorshowers aren't making it lagg at all ?

What a joke lol.

Can't believe I'm standing up for decimation elite but the other night I fought them all night long with no lag to speak of yes there was ALOT of them but they wernt all stacked up on one spot spamming skills Had no issue whatsoever

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

iseko wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

iseko wrote: »

Yellow train running around bleakers chalman ales. Eots choo choo. I dont need an addon to know when they are around. Ping goes up to 400-500 and I know they are around the corner.

DE never left. Not hard to spot man... Light blue tabards.

And the 60+ Decimation/Legion elite + Drachen Garde running around with their entire faction coordinating meteorshowers aren't making it lagg at all ?

What a joke lol.

DG and DE have been around on azura for... Years. Last 6 months no lag when they were there. Now yellow aoe train shows up and it lags. Must be DG/DE offcourse!

Yeah it's definately us causing the lag with our super duper mega train of 12 people. Definately not the 100+ people chasing us to kill us from bleakers up north to the giant village. If you want to make excuses make better ones because we re definately not the only guild on azura using storms or detos. I find it so amusing when suddenly people think 12 people are causing the lag and not the *** of 100 people. Such a joke.

Who gives a *** how many you are? Is that honestly uour defence? We are only 12? Let's ignore the fact that I highly doubt you actually are 12, and ignore the fact that almost always there is another group close by, What about the fact you are all syncing up your skills and ultimates? So you honest believe that causes less lag that a spread out uncoordinated group?

As for the 100 people chasing you that's kinda the point of your play style isn't it? Farming? Running around the same spot over and over and over killing the same people

Sorry only 12 on ts thats how it goes right? I think you forgot your glasses when you were "smallscaling" us because when there is another ad group around we either yell at them to leave or we go away. But I guess we should just use single target skills to fight 3 times our numbers and light attacks right? Anyway thank you for the ap donations and the nice fights even if you think we re lagging the server

When I was small scaling you? Wtf you talking about?

Also if you yell at them or go away why is it I always see 3 guilds around the same keeps, I'm
Not blaming just one group for That buy I do see ZS,UF and normally another one dotted around the same keep for a while aswel, as for AP donations I'm pretty sure you get minimal
From me

but hey if you need it all you need to do is ask I'm sure I can donate you some

MLRPZ wrote: »

Decado wrote: »

Who gives a *** how many you are? Is that honestly uour defence? We are only 12? Let's ignore the fact that I highly doubt you actually are 12, and ignore the fact that almost always there is another group close by, What about the fact you are all syncing up your skills and ultimates? So you honest believe that causes less lag that a spread out uncoordinated group?

As for the 100 people chasing you that's kinda the point of your play style isn't it? Farming? Running around the same spot over and over and over killing the same people

Dude, of course we, as a bomb group, have an impact on server performance. But nowhere close to the impact of those massive groups moving around together. At some point yesterday we were fighting 3 differents organised group at the same time, but sure WE are the problem.
but sure, we are to blame

I never said you are solely to blame it's a group effort however certain groups like to pretend they make no difference since they run lower numbers even though they cause more than an unorganised group
In absolutely convinced 12 people on one spot syncing up skills causes more lag than 24 unorganised people running in vaguely the same direction

MLRPZ · January 2017

Decado wrote: »

Also if you yell at them or go away why is it I always see 3 guilds around the same keeps, I'm
Not blaming just one group for That buy I do see ZS,UF and normally another one dotted around the same keep for a while aswel, as for AP donations I'm pretty sure you get minimal
From me but hey if you need it all you need to do is ask I'm sure I can donate you some

UF doesn't play on AZ, but you're welcome to try again. And as Lhenneth said, when a AD group is nearby, we usually just go away or tell them to go away

Decado wrote: »

I never said you are solely to blame it's a group effort however certain groups like to pretend they make no difference since they run lower numbers even though they cause more than an unorganised group
In absolutely convinced 12 people on one spot syncing up skills causes more lag than 24 unorganised people running in vaguely the same direction

Sure, but we're not talking about 24, but 50+

Decado · January 2017

MLRPZ wrote: »

Decado wrote: »

Also if you yell at them or go away why is it I always see 3 guilds around the same keeps, I'm
Not blaming just one group for That buy I do see ZS,UF and normally another one dotted around the same keep for a while aswel, as for AP donations I'm pretty sure you get minimal
From me but hey if you need it all you need to do is ask I'm sure I can donate you some

UF doesn't play on AZ, but you're welcome to try again. And as Lhenneth said, when a AD group is nearby, we usually just go away or tell them to go away

Decado wrote: »

I never said you are solely to blame it's a group effort however certain groups like to pretend they make no difference since they run lower numbers even though they cause more than an unorganised group
In absolutely convinced 12 people on one spot syncing up skills causes more lag than 24 unorganised people running in vaguely the same direction

Sure, but we're not talking about 24, but 50+

Oh so you just lag TF with UF but not azuras!! Got you my sincere apologies!

And groups like yours still need to accept you contribute to the lag especially if you position yourself on chalman mile gate and force both th DC and EP to push at you and hold them at the gate, that's my main issue that certain people believe they have absolutely zero impact onto server performance and go around spouting crap about other groups doing it,

MLRPZ · January 2017

You should try to L2read

MLRPZ wrote: »

Dude, of course we, as a bomb group, have an impact on server performance.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but you are part of Honour right ?
The group that never goes behind ennemie lines, So you obviously know what you're talking about when it comes to stack with the whole faction

Jam · January 2017

To be honest, it's a vicious circle... Both of part are responsible. We need to play aoe gameplay because we are really outnumbered. And when we push with ultimate etc, of course we are creating lag, because we hit all the zerg with our aoe.

But you're responsible as well, chasing us with 50+ people, staking all the faction to the SAME place. What's wrong with you ? There is no other place to fight ? You can't be able to play as a group/guild alone, and not stack with all your faction ?

Maybe if players weren't so lazy, it will be many group running around the map, but no, you all prefer stack at the same place, because you don't want create your own action.

So what's happen ? our group of 12 people see 50+ people stacking at the same place. We can't destack you, because all of you will chase us, so... What do we have to do ? play aoe gameplay and rush with destro + detonation.

As I said, it's a vicious circle, as long as people won't be ready to destack and play properly, bombsquad like our guild (or other one) will exist.

Decado · January 2017

MLRPZ wrote: »

You should try to L2read

MLRPZ wrote: »

Dude, of course we, as a bomb group, have an impact on server performance.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but you are part of Honour right ?
The group that never goes behind ennemie lines, So you obviously know what you're talking about when it comes to stack with the whole faction

I believe I acknoweldged that earlier, when I said it's not just the small groups however SOME of the members of those groups spout about every other group causing lag and refuse to acknowledge they are part of the problem,

yes I'm part of honour infact I'm one of the guild leaders of honour, say what you want about honour we play to have fun and couldn't give a *** about AP farming, honour would rather play the campaign than farm because that is what you mean about "behind enemy lines" right? Because is sure as *** isn't my definition, does attacking a keep behind the enemy front line count? Like hitting roe/nikel or farra when yellow still
hold ash, does that count as behind enemy lines? Because if it does I can say with absolutely certainty honour DO go behind enemy lines

MLRPZ · January 2017

What do you think we are playing for ? we play for fun aswell mate

but to be honest, for us : dying = not fun, killing 50+ with 12 = fun, stealing ticks when DC & EP fights over a keep or outpost = fun.

We're playing with the same goal, we're just not reaching it the same way

Decado · January 2017

Yes I believe your right we achieve fun in different ways for me I much prefer having a laugh with friends on teamspeak and messing around, on Saturdays I just get wasted and run around, not to bothered about how much AP I get or whatever, sometimes it's fun to just jump into a Zerg on your own and see how many you can take with you before you die, I know I'll die but it doesn't bother me, and I can see how wiping 50 with 12 could be fun however I have to admit I couldn't do how you do it running around and around in circles spamming the same thing etc that for me would get very old very fast, each to there own I guess

Like I said I have no issues with your play style or infact most of the players, you yourself held you hands up and said bomb groups have an effect on server performance I can happily accept that and move on, I just dislike the ones who claim they don't have any impact because they are on a smaller group etc

And whoops we appear to have hijacked this thread slightly haha

kkravaritieb17_ESO · January 2017

Decado wrote: »

Yes I believe your right we achieve fun in different ways for me I much prefer having a laugh with friends on teamspeak and messing around, on Saturdays I just get wasted and run around, not to bothered about how much AP I get or whatever, sometimes it's fun to just jump into a Zerg on your own and see how many you can take with you before you die, I know I'll die but it doesn't bother me, and I can see how wiping 50 with 12 could be fun however I have to admit I couldn't do how you do it running around and around in circles spamming the same thing etc that for me would get very old very fast, each to there own I guess

Like I said I have no issues with your play style or infact most of the players, you yourself held you hands up and said bomb groups have an effect on server performance I can happily accept that and move on, I just dislike the ones who claim they don't have any impact because they are on a smaller group etc

And whoops we appear to have hijacked this thread slightly haha

Nobody said we dont add to the lag but suggesting that we alone cause the server to lag is just something to laugh about.

kuro-dono · January 2017

ALL OF YOU TRASH AOE CHOO CHOO RAIDS JUST SHOULD *** OFF.

sorry. editing.

ALL OF YOU TRASH HUMAN BEING AOE CHOO CHOO GAMEBREAKER EXPLOITERS AND FUN KILLING RAIDS SHOULD JUST F U C K OFF FROM AZURA STAR PC EU.

kuro-dono · January 2017

and yes. i said all of you, includes covenant and ebon pact too.

outsideworld76 · January 2017

Lag on PS4 EU is also extreme right now. Zos does nothing.

Darnathian · January 2017

Decado wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

iseko wrote: »

Yellow train running around bleakers chalman ales. Eots choo choo. I dont need an addon to know when they are around. Ping goes up to 400-500 and I know they are around the corner.

DE never left. Not hard to spot man... Light blue tabards.

And the 60+ Decimation/Legion elite + Drachen Garde running around with their entire faction coordinating meteorshowers aren't making it lagg at all ?

What a joke lol.

Can't believe I'm standing up for decimation elite but the other night I fought them all night long with no lag to speak of yes there was ALOT of them but they wernt all stacked up on one spot spamming skills Had no issue whatsoever

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

iseko wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

iseko wrote: »

Yellow train running around bleakers chalman ales. Eots choo choo. I dont need an addon to know when they are around. Ping goes up to 400-500 and I know they are around the corner.

DE never left. Not hard to spot man... Light blue tabards.

And the 60+ Decimation/Legion elite + Drachen Garde running around with their entire faction coordinating meteorshowers aren't making it lagg at all ?

What a joke lol.

DG and DE have been around on azura for... Years. Last 6 months no lag when they were there. Now yellow aoe train shows up and it lags. Must be DG/DE offcourse!

Yeah it's definately us causing the lag with our super duper mega train of 12 people. Definately not the 100+ people chasing us to kill us from bleakers up north to the giant village. If you want to make excuses make better ones because we re definately not the only guild on azura using storms or detos. I find it so amusing when suddenly people think 12 people are causing the lag and not the *** of 100 people. Such a joke.

Who gives a *** how many you are? Is that honestly uour defence? We are only 12? Let's ignore the fact that I highly doubt you actually are 12, and ignore the fact that almost always there is another group close by, What about the fact you are all syncing up your skills and ultimates? So you honest believe that causes less lag that a spread out uncoordinated group?

As for the 100 people chasing you that's kinda the point of your play style isn't it? Farming? Running around the same spot over and over and over killing the same people

Dumbest statement i have heard since launch. Giving a group in a game designed for large scale warfare, crap for being coordinated? Lol. All u small scalers go to pve land please. Or bwb and pick on newbies.

Decado · January 2017

If the game was properly designed for large scale warfare then we wouldn't have be issue of lag would we? Since this it was this topic was opened about LAG we were discussing the lag not the fact they are coordinated

Dumbest statement you've heard? Cheers for that lol hush up now go play your large scale lag free PvP since the game was destined for it so clearly can handle it, right?

Darnathian · January 2017

Its funny after all this tme players still vompmain about double teams, coordinated groups, and blame lag on on other factions.

Every faction does the same crap. Its not others responsibikity to change they way they play within the rule set to suit your game play. Its yojr responsibikity to go some place else.

Do u honestly think after all this time that if the lag was from grouping that many people that zos wouldnt change the group size to something lower?

The game is crap. They didnt deliver what was promised. Blame them not coordinated friends.

Decado · January 2017

Darnathian wrote: »

Do u honestly think after all this time that if the lag was from grouping that many people that zos wouldnt change the group size to something lower?

The game is crap. They didnt deliver what was promised. Blame them not coordinated friends.

This a joke? We constantly see group sized of over 50 people yet the group size is 24, changing the size of the groups would have zero impact on the size of the groups running around it would make it slightly harder to follow one crown but they manage it with 50 man groups so wouldn't change anything

kkravaritieb17_ESO · January 2017

kuro-dono wrote: »

ALL OF YOU TRASH AOE CHOO CHOO RAIDS JUST SHOULD *** OFF.

sorry. editing.

ALL OF YOU TRASH HUMAN BEING AOE CHOO CHOO GAMEBREAKER EXPLOITERS AND FUN KILLING RAIDS SHOULD JUST F U C K OFF FROM AZURA STAR PC EU.

Someone forgot his pills today

Master_Kas · January 2017

iseko wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

iseko wrote: »

Yellow train running around bleakers chalman ales. Eots choo choo. I dont need an addon to know when they are around. Ping goes up to 400-500 and I know they are around the corner.

DE never left. Not hard to spot man... Light blue tabards.

And the 60+ Decimation/Legion elite + Drachen Garde running around with their entire faction coordinating meteorshowers aren't making it lagg at all ?

What a joke lol.

DG and DE have been around on azura for... Years. Last 6 months no lag when they were there. Now yellow aoe train shows up and it lags. Must be DG/DE offcourse!

Didn't say we had no impact on the performance. Only that those raids stacking aren't really helping it either

Wollust · January 2017

kuro-dono wrote: »

ALL OF YOU TRASH AOE CHOO CHOO RAIDS JUST SHOULD *** OFF.

sorry. editing.

ALL OF YOU TRASH HUMAN BEING AOE CHOO CHOO GAMEBREAKER EXPLOITERS AND FUN KILLING RAIDS SHOULD JUST F U C K OFF FROM AZURA STAR PC EU.

I get the feeling you don't like us

MLRPZ · January 2017

Foxey = triggered

Jam · January 2017

kuro-dono wrote: »

ALL OF YOU TRASH AOE CHOO CHOO RAIDS JUST SHOULD *** OFF.

sorry. editing.

ALL OF YOU TRASH HUMAN BEING AOE CHOO CHOO GAMEBREAKER EXPLOITERS AND FUN KILLING RAIDS SHOULD JUST F U C K OFF FROM AZURA STAR PC EU.

That's a lot adjectives !

Vaelith_Stormrend · January 2017

Wollust wrote: »

kuro-dono wrote: »

ALL OF YOU TRASH AOE CHOO CHOO RAIDS JUST SHOULD *** OFF.

sorry. editing.

ALL OF YOU TRASH HUMAN BEING AOE CHOO CHOO GAMEBREAKER EXPLOITERS AND FUN KILLING RAIDS SHOULD JUST F U C K OFF FROM AZURA STAR PC EU.

I get the feeling you don't like us

themdogesbite · January 2017

Obviosuly we contribute to server performance since we prefer to move between other factions already fighting as far away from other AD as possible. Thats dosent matter if we´re 5 players or 12, we still try to move away.

Almost every time i'm in Azura theres only one fight on the map thats between Ash and Nikel. Atleast we move to the back keeps such as farragut, kings, rayles and warden to pull people away from the main "route" instead of following our entire faction keep to keep. Which is more then most players in this game do.

IxSTALKERxI · January 2017

This thread has nothing to do with me, but I can't help but chime in.

Server lag is mainly caused by the total number of players in an area. If there are 130 players in an area, a 12 man group is contributing to only 9.23 % of the lag. The 118 enemies trying to zerg them down are contributing to 90.77% of the lag.

If a group of 12 people were to be by themselves and deliberately all spam the spamiest skills in the game as hard as they could, the server wouldn't experience any lag.

It has little to do with what skills are used, or how co-coordinated you are in using them together. It is to do with how many people are using skills, and even how many people are simply present.