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The great balance patch... so wheres trait balance?
Aliyavana
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Lets not make this into a nerf sharpened thread as people spent many days grinding for that bis weapon but has there been any word on a trait rebalanceing on making less desirable traits more appealing, preferably in a buff to bring it into the competitive picture and not going the route of nerfing sharpened? I know one of you is going to say if your trial group is in perfect unity the bosses resistances will make precise more desirable but for the majority of the time sharpened will always be the go to bis dps trait. nirnhoned is also the most expensive trait but it is lacking in terms of what it can do and should reflect on its price tag.
Edited by Aliyavana on January 7, 2017 2:15AM 3
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✭✭✭This was the first piece of the patch not the whole.Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
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Eleusian✭✭✭Last time they balanced traits was a joke. They will create a grind no matter what they call the traits or how many balances they do.PS4 NA0 -
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✭✭✭GrumpyDuckling wrote: »
YesProudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
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✭✭✭✭✭Do you really think they would want 3 competing traits instead of everyone grinding to death over sharpened?Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on January 7, 2017 4:40AM0 -
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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/312717/balance-direction-in-update-13#latest
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3664513/#Comment_3664513This recent update has made me sad. Sad for the game. Sad for the community. Sad to pay whatever it is now. I want the previous eso back.0 -
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✭✭✭GrumpyDuckling wrote: »
if you look in the PTS forum under the "direction" thread you can see Rich lambert talking about some next week pTS2 but more he references more stuff to be done in PTS3 which is patch after next, week after next.
i believe he referenced definitely having more stuff for "every class" and more but specifically said would not give more details until they saw what got in and done and such as each week's pts rolls out.
really this is like every patch pts so far - a fairly typical pattern is
pts-1 lotsa new stuff
pts-2 mostly tweak/fix to pts-1
pts-3 new stuff and tweaks/fix/chg
pts-4 lotsa tweak fix etc.
until release.
Will traits be included? no specific word but they did mention traits in the last month or so as an area of interest.
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✭✭✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Do you really think they would want 3 competing traits instead of everyone grinding to death over sharpened?
i do...
but of course, i dont like their whole trait scheme... when the main diff is three different equations to raise DPS (crit-dam-pen) and then the rest you dont often find a way to make them all balance out.
most often the equations favor one over the others - just not necessarily by a lot.
What i would like to see is a scheme where:
Every trait is best somewhere and no trait is best everywhere (and no i dont mean where = roles)
They are actually starting to slide my way a trifle now - the staves damage onuses keying to single target vs AOE which means one is better for large mobs and the other better for single bosses is a direction i think has a lot of merit.
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✭✭✭✭✭The problem with attempting to balance the traits is that the min-maxers will go on a math spree until they arrive at the conclusion that overall, THIS trait puts out the best DPS, even if it's 0.0000001% more than the next best trait. And then everyone will want to farm for that specific trait.
I think if we're going to get anything near "balanced" traits, the traits are going to have to be varied enough that each trait would be used for completely different purposes. Divines works because the mundus stone bonuses are varied enough. Training works because it's for grinding levels. Prosperous WOULD work as a gold grinding set, if the gold drops from mobs wasn't so pathetic that it makes even a full set of prosperous gear more or less worthless. Etc. etc. etc.ALL HAIL SNUGGLORR THE MAGNIFICENT, KING OF THE RNG AND NIRN'S ONE TRUE GOD! Also, become a Scrub-scriber! SJ Scrubs: Playing games badly to make you feel better about yourself.0 -
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✭✭nerf sharpened
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Bryanonymous✭✭✭✭✭So over dramatic. I never got the impression that this patch was going to be the "great balance" of them all. If you hyped it up in your own mind, that's on you.0
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✭I'm really upset they took away increased weapon speed, I think that was citrine? I mean many sets have bonuses to your light and heavy attacks so with no way to make them faster it kinda loses a dimension
The attack speed up only actually effected the very last part of the animation for some reason, it was still worse than taking a stat up. It might have been cool if it worked as one expected, but in all likelihood it might just break animation cancelling even more than it is already
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RazorCaltrops✭✭✭It's safe to say that sharpened will remain untouched for a while. %90 of the "balance changes" are aimed to reduce the power creep in PVE. Changing sharpened would be a bit too much.
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spencer2361✭✭✭I've said it before and I'll say it again, the only balance is to remove all traits1
