Why do you care about housing?

billp_ESO · January 2017

I like housing because I like to "live" in the world that I play in. Having a home in the world I inhabit is fun.

But the fact that it has no storage just boggles the mind.

anadandy · January 2017

rotaugen454 wrote: »

As someone who spent many hours in Skyrim adjusting every placeable object (including dead enemies), I don't understand why anyone would ask this question.

I remember painstakingly arranging Alvor's dead body (because it never went away after he foolishly attacked a dragon with his hammer) in a nice grassy location by the stream and laying flowers on it...What? Don't judge.

Also, that should explain why I care about housing.

Potenza · January 2017

Yea everyone is so excited about housing....Bleh. Waiting for all of the complaints about it to come rolling when they realize its not what they thought it would be. They just screwed up all the balance changes and we think housing is going to be wonderful? yea right. what a waste of time.

Ilawynde · January 2017

I dont care!

No storage BUT we can sit in a chair!!! ROFLMAO

I came into this game from from Oblivion/Skyrim.............

It was an adjustment to say the least.

BUT

I got used to not having a home.

Sure not gonna spend hard earned in-game gold for fluff.

Too much fluff already!

driosketch · January 2017

j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »

They just screwed up all the balance changes and we think housing is going to be wonderful? yea right. what a waste of time.

I've started testing it on the pts already and it's actually pretty great. There are a few bugs, and I have a wishlist, but the core customization is impressive so far.

Acrolas · January 2017

Tolrog wrote: »

That's why I care about housing.

Nobody ever changed their own reality by hiding from it.

Loralai_907 · January 2017

Initially I was pretty excited about it, about making an interesting place. I've only tested for a little bit so far, but I think it is going to take forever to get the recipes (or whatever they are being called) to make interesting items. I have very specific things I want. I'm not just looking for your everyday normal housing items. And having the crafting equipment right in my house is kind of a neat idea, until you remember that crafted items are not as good as dropped sets. So this may be more of a side project. As I get things I want while doing other things that have nothing to do with housing.

JWKe · January 2017

Best housing experience I ever had in an MMO is on Runescape. I'd like to see how ESO's take on housing matches up.

itehache · January 2017

Loving housing doesn't mean not wanting new content. I just want a little place in Tamriel to call home. I remember when I played Skyrim, and the Hearthfire DLC came out, I thought meh I just want to try it, but I ended up loving it SO MUCH. I can't wait to have a house in ESO.

Thybrinena · January 2017

Acrolas wrote: »

Tolrog wrote: »

That's why I care about housing.

Nobody ever changed their own reality by hiding from it.

I never said anything about hiding from reality so I'm not sure why you're quoting me. However, escaping from it for a few hours a day, is that such a bad thing? Regardless of your answer, it matters not. I simply explained why I'm going to enjoy my Manor.

Have a nice day!

AlnilamE · January 2017

Well, they are not mutually exclusive. Did you stop reading the patch notes before you got to the end of housing? Because I think that's just 1/3 of what's actually in them.

Personally, it's nice having a home in a game. The crafting stations will be cool, and I'm looking forward to learning to craft furniture. All while I continue to run dungeons and trials and quest and PvP as usual.

Pheefs · January 2017

Pandorii wrote: »

I'm thinking it might be tied to cultural values. If you're of a certain economic class, you are more likely to see home-buying as an important developmental stage of life, something to look forward to, like some people look forward to planning their weddings.

Since I grew up from a low-income background, I've never really had the idea of buying a house as something within my reach.

Culture YES, economics NOT NECESSARILY
I come from farm people, we are largely a low income population in terms of hard currency...
I can count on one hand with fingers left over the times someone in my extended family bought a brand new car instead of used. Brand new tractor is a different story naturally!

We all get a House, even if we have to build most of it ourselves, even if it shows up on wheels to be put on family land we don't own ourselves.
& We may be married many times in our lives, but Home is forever.

Danikat · January 2017

I'm not sure I understand the excitement either.

In general I'm ambivalent about housing in games. I like The Sims and in games where housing is an option I'll buy it and use it (including in Morrowind where you couldn't exactly 'own' a house, but if you'd killed the owner as part of a quest no one would stop you). But if a game doesn't offer it I never miss it and in RPGs it tends to be a very small part of my gameplay.

I'm really struggling to understand the appeal in ESO where you can't even store your actual stuff there, even as decoration. That's what made it personal to me in other games (particularly TES games), I'd keep keys from dungeons, interesting books I found on my travels, or items from enemies that I didn't want to sell...it's a subtle difference but finding a book and then later being granted permission to buy a copy of it, or having the game tell me I have unlocked a trophy for killing a particular enemy is not the same. (It'd be like going to the beach in real life and finding a cool shell, then being told you can't take it home but you can buy a different shell from the gift shop which is glued to a wooden base with the name of the beach on it. It's still a shell and it's arguably better in a way, but it's not the same.)

On the other hand while I don't role-play exactly I like to make up detailed backstories for my characters, which often includes reasons for them living in the place they spend most of their time, or wanting to get away from where they're from. So it makes sense to me that they would have an actual home there, and I'm getting kind of excited at the idea of finding the right home for each of them and decorating it.

MarrazzMist · January 2017

I like to have some off-battle activity between quests and other goals.

AlienSlof · January 2017

I love messing around with housing and furnishings! I especially love building large houses, something I can enjoy because I'm unlikely to ever live in one in real life. This will add to the enjoyment of ESO for me, just as I enjoy doing the same with Minecraft and Lego.

Yes, I'm an old lady who still plays with Lego!

Jimmy562 · January 2017

Housing for me was really only ever good in SWG because it served a purpose.

You could set up your shop that was connected to the global bazaar terminals. People could search for items your selling and buy them anywhere but had to visit your house/vendor to pick the item up.
You could use it purely for storage, dropping pretty much any old item you get inside
You could set it up for all your crafting needs
and more that I am probably missing

Most MMO's today just slap housing in as something you decorate for fun but completely miss the opportunities it has. I enjoy housing when its implemented properly.

AlMcFly · January 2017

Because it's fun.

quadraxis666 · January 2017

I don't care about housing. I did at first, then I find out storage didn't make the cut - the very thing most people want houses in games for is keeping their stuff.
Furniture crafting looks interesting, but that was basically the only other interesting thing.
Then I saw the ingame gold prices of buying the houses and lost interest altogether. I knew they'd be prohibitively expensive to most players to encourage crown sales, I called it in a speculation thread months ago, but almost 4million for the biggest houses? Just lol.

Storage and armor mannequins need to be added before this gets my interest back. We've lived homeless since launch and it's not going to make any difference now since all housing is, is a place to decorate and look at. So it does nothing helpful for my game.

vamp_emily · January 2017

Pandorii wrote: »

In a polite way, I have this question too. For many MMORPG players, housing (to them) is such a fundamental feature of the gaming genre, and they get really hyped about it. I do see the role play potential, if you want to role play house, house party, guild house, guild party, etc. But it's not really a role play need, since you can role play pretty much anywhere and the scenario will be different.

I'm thinking it might be tied to cultural values. If you're of a certain economic class, you are more likely to see home-buying as an important developmental stage of life, something to look forward to, like some people look forward to planning their weddings.

Since I grew up from a low-income background, I've never really had the idea of buying a house as something within my reach. In real life, I prefer a minimalist style and would prefer to rent a small apartment. This probably explains why I can't really get that into the idea of having a house in a game, since it isn't something I want in real life either. For me, a big house just means a big mess to clean.

And this complicated reasoning puts me at ease as to why I'm just not as hyped as a lot of people about housing. And that's ok. I don't expect everything in this game to cater to my interest, much like I'm also not that into hardcore end-game PvE.

**Edit: At the end of the day, the cultural feeds into personal preferences. Everyone has different personal preferences and values.

Slumber party at my new house! ( no armor allowed )

Honestly, people always get hyped about any new DLC. It is kind of silly in a way. Something comes out and next thing you see is a few too many "Omg! I have to have it" threads.

I wasn't going to buy a house, but I just seen one of the crown store exclusives and thought "Omg! I have to have it"

Darkonflare15 · January 2017

Acrolas wrote: »

Pandorii wrote: »

I'm thinking it might be tied to cultural values. If you're of a certain economic class, you are more likely to see home-buying as an important developmental stage of life, something to look forward to, like women look forward to planning their weddings.

And if you're a certain economic class and intelligence, you're more likely to see that diamonds are intrinsically worthless, cake mixes use eggs to pander to women, and cities with low property taxes as a selling point really don't value education.

Video game housing is not only a permanent sunk cost, it's a sunk cost without utility. I'd rather invest 1.5 million gold into the existing guild market to buy items that will sell for 3 million, than to sink 3 million into a house that I'll mostly ignore by next year while I'm out harvesting materials to make more gold. Gold makes more gold. Housing makes...?

Yeah, somebody at ZOS didn't get the memo that all good gold sinks have some practical player utility that can't be found anywhere else in the game. I need to craft? Crafting station. I need a furnished house? Murder the existing occupants over and over again. I want a scenic view? I know all the best ones, and none of them are coming from player housing.

So I'll get a really cheap house, fill it with a sofa, vintage booze, and a tapestry of Swimsuit Gwendis, then wait for Update 14. But probably not the first part, just the second.

What the point in making more gold just to make more in a game? There nothing really in the spend on game. E

Jimmy562 wrote: »

Housing for me was really only ever good in SWG because it served a purpose.
You could set up your shop that was connected to the global bazaar terminals. People could search for items your selling and buy them anywhere but had to visit your house/vendor to pick the item up.

You could use it purely for storage, dropping pretty much any old item you get inside

You could set it up for all your crafting needs

and more that I am probably missing

Most MMO's today just slap housing in as something you decorate for fun but completely miss the opportunities it has. I enjoy housing when its implemented properly.

I am always confused on why people always think that housings have to have an utility. What is the utility of questing, pvping, or doing dungeon/ trials? To be honest when it compares to my real life I am not get any from it other than entertainment. The clear answer is because it is fun and entertaining. I mean there nothing to really spend money on in this game when you have already save up a huge chunk of gold and pretty much no need to spend it in guild traders. Since most of the items sold there are just items you do not need or you already have a bunch of them from playing the game.

STEVIL · January 2017

practice dummy
attuned craft tables
eventual storage

those are the pragmatics

then there is of course - just for fun

leepalmer95 · January 2017

Free content why not?

AnnieBeGood · January 2017

I did but not now. House = storage. No storage? No need for house then.

thomas1970b16_ESO · January 2017

I hope housing will be good source of income for zos. That way they can develop the game more.

Rev Rielle · January 2017

Housing when done well let's your imagination run wild.
It's fun to truly get the creative juices following.

brandonv516 · January 2017

The only reason housing would be nice for me is to be able to fast travel there free and have all of the amenities I need (horse trainer, blacksmith, etc.).

Anything short of these desires means I'll steer clear of a house. I will however craft housing furniture for others if it's profitable.

Cyrediath · January 2017

Shardaxx wrote: »

I was skeptical about the Hearthfire dlc which added housing to Skyrim because I didn't really see the point of it, but it was so cheap (about £3) I bought it anyway and I had lots of fun with it, even with the very limited customisation available. It was nice to have a big house to return to between adventures, once you'd upgraded everything there was no reason to visit town you could do everything at your house, I'm hoping the same applies in eso (it looks the case, judging by the notes).

I think this pretty much summerize everything. You can oay 3 euros and do whatever you want and in eso probably you have to pay around more than 100$ for sure for the crown exclusive houses and pay more for costumization and also you have to pay for the extra content and bla bla.

Pheefs · January 2017

A beautiful view, planting my own garden, filling a closet full of sweet rolls!

An Alchemy & Dye Station to call my own.

There will be plenty of decorating fun & parties to occupy me until storage & real gardening come in.

leepalmer95 · January 2017

Cyrediath wrote: »

Shardaxx wrote: »

I was skeptical about the Hearthfire dlc which added housing to Skyrim because I didn't really see the point of it, but it was so cheap (about £3) I bought it anyway and I had lots of fun with it, even with the very limited customisation available. It was nice to have a big house to return to between adventures, once you'd upgraded everything there was no reason to visit town you could do everything at your house, I'm hoping the same applies in eso (it looks the case, judging by the notes).

I think this pretty much summerize everything. You can oay 3 euros and do whatever you want and in eso probably you have to pay around more than 100$ for sure for the crown exclusive houses and pay more for costumization and also you have to pay for the extra content and bla bla.

You don't have to pay for anything, the majority including cool things like emp thrones etc... are all purchased by gold

Just got to go make gold.

S1ipperyJim · January 2017

I'm mostly interested in the practical features, for instance target skeleton, crafting locations. I'm also glad I have a place to display my huge herd of mounts most of which I never ride (Sench Tiger for lyfe)