Does Incapaciting Strike need a nerf for update 13?

Paneross · January 2017

Because getting killed in 2 seconds is sooooo fun.

andreasranasen · January 2017

Yes

Too much of this in PvP:
Ambush --> 18k Incap --> Viper + Veli proc = 0 skill...

ThePonzzz · January 2017

No

Get imp trait on armor and live through it. Proc sets shouldn't get this skill nerfed.

Rohamad_Ali · January 2017

No

Can you stop nerfing nightblade please . It's a funeral already for Magblades this update . I know you guys hate being ganked but this is a class that does not do much else . Those proc sets need to be incinerated but stop gutting classes to address power creep , it's backwards thinking .

Strider_Roshin · January 2017

No

Not even slightly.

SnubbS · January 2017

Increase cost to 75 and make it undodgeable.

While you're at it -- make leap undodgeable as well.

Paneross · January 2017

Yes

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Can you stop nerfing nightblade please . It's a funeral already for Magblades this update . I know you guys hate being ganked but this is a class that does not do much else . Those proc sets need to be incinerated but stop gutting classes to address power creep , it's backwards thinking .

Sure once Templar stops getting nerfed every class update.

ThePonzzz · January 2017

No

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Can you stop nerfing nightblade please . It's a funeral already for Magblades this update . I know you guys hate being ganked but this is a class that does not do much else . Those proc sets need to be incinerated but stop gutting classes to address power creep , it's backwards thinking .

:praise:

mb10 · January 2017

No

What else do you recommend stam NBs to use?

I think too many people compare how the classes in ESO are played when they're all meant to be different.

A Nightblade's job is to do burst damage quickly and back into stealth even quicker.

When your resistance is maximum 10k
You're in medium armour (everyone else is in heavy)
You have no burst heal or shields
In and around 20-23k health
No shield

...I dont think you intend to stick around. Incap strike is usually the difference between killing someone and not IMO and nerfing it would be a huge blow to the NB build.

So my vote is 'No'.

Rohamad_Ali · January 2017

No

Paneross wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Can you stop nerfing nightblade please . It's a funeral already for Magblades this update . I know you guys hate being ganked but this is a class that does not do much else . Those proc sets need to be incinerated but stop gutting classes to address power creep , it's backwards thinking .

Sure once Templar stops getting nerfed every class update.

This is a first round nerf for Templar . They have been boosted or left untouched a long time , almost a year and half now . The nerf to blazing spears was not needed . Radient oppression I'm 50/50 on . That does not mean a class that was nerfed last round and this round needs a third round of nerfs because gear is an issue .

The_Protagonist · January 2017

No

After the nerf to our Mageblade, Incap should be buffed for the sake of balance.

First Law of Nerf-O-Dynamics: If I'm killing stuff with abilities then all is fine, the moment I die by an ability, it needs a Nerf.
(as said by one of our community members)

Git-Gud boy and L2P. Otherwise its your class and favorite ability that'll get nerfed for balance.

And one more thing, STOP WHINING! JUST STOP IT!

Brutusmax1mus · January 2017

No

I'm in 2.7k cr, got hit with a 42k eots. That's aoe... Incap hasn't hit be over 9k ever. It's fine, don't build so squishy.

Father_X_Zombie · January 2017

Yes

At least an increase to 75, or drop the stun. The damage shouldn't be nerfed as it should hit hard being the nightblade ult,but that shouldn't mean it should practically spammed very 5s. Heal debuff, dmg buff, stun, huge burst for 50 ult is too much for 1 package.

Even if the change i suggested gets implemented, incap is still more then favorable over Dawnbreaker.

GawdSB · January 2017

Yes

Honestly wouldn't care if they made nightblades unplayable, worst most annoying class in the game.

Volrion · January 2017

No

SnubbS wrote: »

Increase cost to 75 and make it undodgeable.

While you're at it -- make leap undodgeable as well.

If it were undodgable I'd be fine with a cost increase to 75.

All it takes is a little lag spike when a destro ult goes off in the background and boom, dodged!

susmitds · January 2017

No

With camo hunter gone, proc sets nerfed, any nerf to Incap Strike will kill ganking as a playstyle.
StamNBs got the lowest defense. They are supposed to have the highest burst of all.

GawdSB wrote: »

Honestly wouldn't care if they made nightblades unplayable, worst most annoying class in the game.

Look at the bias LOL.

Nyghthowler · January 2017

No

I voted no simply because I'm so f'ing tired of the constant cries for nerfs. Try asking for things to be fixed and equalized for a change.

ArchMikem · January 2017

No

I've had players dodge it while just standing there. The animation landed square on their face and they still dodged it, and you're asking if it needs a nerf?

Strider_Roshin · January 2017

No

SnubbS wrote: »

Increase cost to 75 and make it undodgeable.

While you're at it -- make leap undodgeable as well.

Oh heck yes! I'll gladly take a 25 point increase in order to make it undodgeable.

zuto40 · January 2017

No

Paneross wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Can you stop nerfing nightblade please . It's a funeral already for Magblades this update . I know you guys hate being ganked but this is a class that does not do much else . Those proc sets need to be incinerated but stop gutting classes to address power creep , it's backwards thinking .

Sure once Templar stops getting nerfed every class update.

so let me get this straight, you want a class that isnt even close to being the top at anything except ganking to be nerfed because your class that was and still is extremely strong and even has better sustain now got the shaft on something not as signifigant as the nightblade nerf? you are extremely selfish, i wish you were xbox na youd get the bags all day from me

MaxwellC · January 2017

Yes

Increase cost to 150.
You can literally use this ability in a fight and if it doesn't kill them so be it, just drink a potion and boom back to 50 you go.
The ultimate hits like onslaught (which hits like a truck sometimes) yet it costs 50 Applies major defile, stuns target on impact + increasing all of your damage from any source by 20% for 6 seconds lmao?? This skill needed to be increased to 150 a long time ago.

ArchMikem · January 2017

No

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

Increase cost to 150.
You can literally use this ability in a fight and if it doesn't kill them so be it, just drink a potion and boom back to 50 you go.
The ultimate hits like onslaught (which hits like a truck sometimes) yet it costs 50 Applies major defile, stuns target on impact + increasing all of your damage from any source by 20% for 6 seconds lmao?? This skill needed to be increased to 150 a long time ago.

Except many can mitigate it, and many can simply dodge it, making the ultimate practically worthless. Raising the cost that much without doing anything else would be an insult.

Yolokin_Swagonborn · January 2017

Can we nerf the champion system instead and then re-instate some form of softcaps so that we don't have to keep nerfing things?

Lokey0024 · January 2017

Yes

SnubbS wrote: »

Increase cost to 75 and make it undodgeable.

While you're at it -- make leap undodgeable as well.

Not nerf. Just tweaked.

Edziu · January 2017

No

andreasranasen wrote: »

Too much of this in PvP:
Ambush --> 18k Incap --> Viper + Veli proc = 0 skill...

18k incap? lol you must dont have any CP, I have max hitted a light armor with 12k penetration for 15k with max stat, 16k max health, just glass cannon, no any defensive into someone with also glass cannon build while hitting for 9k-10k to heavy armored players

veli combined with viper is just for unskilled scrubs, mostly ganging without incap on this heavy armor meta will be much less effective and that means NB will be more useless

at all jst not using viper is big disandvatage because not only everyone is using thisl, especjally heavy armor scrubs but also ganging on heavy armord player (80%+ of cyrodil population) will be almost impossible while being glass cannon

altemriel · January 2017

No

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The_Protagonist · January 2017

No

GawdSB wrote: »

Honestly wouldn't care if they made nightblades unplayable, worst most annoying class in the game.

Nightblades are one of the most difficult classes to master, I can understand that the steep learning curve is quite annoying for folks that don't like difficult things in life.

Drummerx04 · January 2017

No

Have you tried radiant magelight? My 5 piece light armor 22k health magsorc laughs at pretty much all stealth attacks.

The devs also put in some pretty effective counters to incap such as blocking and or dodging it. I mean don't get me wrong, it can be annoying, but so can getting hit by a crystal frag. For me, dawnbreaker is the worst ultimate to deal with by far.

DannyLV702 · January 2017

Yes

Doesn't need to stun

Lookstowindwards · January 2017

No

... because rogues do it from behind.

If you cant live with this, when stop calling yourself a PvPler and go back to questing - because its quite clear that you did not do much PvP the last, say... 20 years of MMOs.

Edit, for the sake of nostalgia and to remind us all how crippled the NBs options already are, here in ESO:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5JdK-TD7V-s

Dracindo · January 2017

No

Nightblades are supposed to be assassins, yet for pve content, I hear they're better used as a saptank. In Cyrodiil, they are supposed to gank and kill you before you can do anything. They have very little self-sustain and need Fear moves to get away. Other classes have high armor, many heals or enough magic shields, but NB's have to come close and hope that their 20% (now 15%) dodge chance does a good job.

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Does Incapaciting Strike need a nerf for update 13?

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