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Why is a staff getting a taunt added in? New garbage staff tank builds?
xXSilverDragonXx
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Why? I don't understand this at all. Now desto staff users with tristaff get to be tanks. Fun.
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redspecter23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This will lead to three new types of players
Noobs with ice staves that don't realize they are taunting away from the tank. Yay!
Noobs wtih ice staves that know they can taunt with heavy attacks and queuing as tanks. Yay!
Experienced players that know they can taunt with ice staves and actually have a decent build, but are immediately kicked from groups. Yay!
I may have missed some but happy times with group finder are coming.
Edited by redspecter23 on January 3, 2017 10:51PM59 -
Kutsuu✭✭✭✭✭This is going to make for some really interesting PVP magicka tank builds... that's for sure... Desert Rose + Heavy Armor + Ice Staff permablock builds here we come!!!!!PC/NA
Envy Me - Sorc
Kutsus - NB
Kutsmuffin - Temp
Kutsuu the Destroyer - NB
Kutsuu - Temp
Natsu Dragoneel - DK
Kutsumo - NB11 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This means my Cryomancer isn't using heavy attacks anymore :PJust so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.3 -
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✭✭✭redspecter23 wrote: »This will lead to three new types of players
Noobs with ice staves that don't realize they are taunting away from the tank. Yay!
Noobs wtih ice staves that know they can taunt with heavy attacks and queuing as tanks. Yay!
Experienced players that know they can taunt with ice staves and actually have a decent build, but are immediately kicked from groups. Yay!
I may have missed some but happy times with group finder are coming.
Oh yes, there will be tears... seriously though, I hope this is either an April Fools Day joke or Zos has a plan for balancing frost staves as a viable tanking tool because the ramifications for this are shudder inducing if they do it wrong.3 -
Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm gonna love these changes for PvP
My main MagBlade has the Master's Ice Staff 
"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU1 -
Wifeaggro13✭✭✭✭✭
✭xXSilverDragonXx wrote: »Why? I don't understand this at all. Now desto staff users with tristaff get to be tanks. Fun.
All I can do is LOL a Worbel. Completely missed the tanking community. Utter failure we wanted more tanking not more dps meta with easy mode boss Control. What a utter waste , clueless13 -
exeeter702✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Effective and durable magicka tanks. Incredible change that adds more to the game.
[Edit to remove flame]Edited by [Deleted User] on January 4, 2017 1:29AM7 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm gonna love these changes for PvP My main MagBlade has the Master's Ice Staff
Oh yes, I'm thinking of how to adapt my Gyda to the change. I really need the PTS to update and to come online already. Maybe making my Ice Mage a Nord wasn't as stupid as I thought.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.1 -
TheSeer✭✭✭I only use Lightning Staffs, so....
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I made my ice mage a Nord and am already LOLing at the fun I think I can have with this ice stick change
Stormproof: Vibeke - 50 EP mDragonknight | Savi Dreloth - 50 EP Magsorc | Sadi Dreloth - 50 EP Magblade | Sigtric Stormaxe - 50 EP Stamsorc | Valora Dreloth - 50 EP Magplar | Sigtric the Unbearable 50 EP Stam Warden
Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
Show Me Your Dunmer
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xXSilverDragonXx✭✭✭✭✭In case people don't realize, there are mag blades that use ice staves. God forbid they show up at a trial. Have you ever seen Hel Ra when someone in the group that was not a tank had a taunt because the were clueless about taunts? Yeah GFL. This one was an idea they came up with when they were baked on something and thought 'Oh they want a taunt. Let's give 'em one! The Staves don't have a taunt. Let's stick one on the ice staff!"
They had no idea what to do with frost and this is what we get.
You just can't defend this. Giving a staff a taunt makes no sense at all.Edited by xXSilverDragonXx on January 3, 2017 11:28PM18 -
WhiteMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭This is going to make for some really interesting PVP magicka tank builds... that's for sure... Desert Rose + Heavy Armor + Ice Staff permablock builds here we come!!!!!
Excellent idea! I can see it now... desert rose + beekeepers with an ice staff on a magplar. That nerf to RD may just kill off Templar burst enough to actually make to run that.
EDIT: looking thru guild stores I realized beekeepers is NOT the set im thinking ofEdited by WhiteMage on January 4, 2017 1:44AMThe generally amicable yet sporadically salty magplar that may or may not have 1vXed you in Sotha Sil. Who knows?0 -
Darkonflare15✭✭✭✭✭xXSilverDragonXx wrote: »In case people don't realize, there are mag blades that use ice staves. God forbid they show up at a trial. Have you ever seen Hel Ra when someone in the group that was not a tank had a taunt because the were clueless about taunts? Yeah GFL. This one was an idea they came up with when they were baked on something and thought 'Oh they want a taunt. Let's give 'em one! The Staves don't have a taunt. Let's stick one on the ice staff!"
They had no idea what to do with frost and this is what we get.
You just can't defend this. Giving a staff a taunt makes no sense at all.
They have been slowing making ice staffs into a defensive weapon for months. It is not as far-fetched as you think.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I'd like to think that players that wish to continue to use frost heavy attacks and not taunt can just choose to not take the tri focus passive. Hopefully that will be an option, but I'm not sure if there would be any negative effects if you don't take it.2 -
xXSilverDragonXx✭✭✭✭✭Darkonflare15 wrote: »xXSilverDragonXx wrote: »In case people don't realize, there are mag blades that use ice staves. God forbid they show up at a trial. Have you ever seen Hel Ra when someone in the group that was not a tank had a taunt because the were clueless about taunts? Yeah GFL. This one was an idea they came up with when they were baked on something and thought 'Oh they want a taunt. Let's give 'em one! The Staves don't have a taunt. Let's stick one on the ice staff!"
They had no idea what to do with frost and this is what we get.
You just can't defend this. Giving a staff a taunt makes no sense at all.
They have been slowing making ice staffs into a defensive weapon for months. It is not as far-fetched as you think.
How? Sorry I must have missed that. What changes have been made? Damage shield? That was one thing. What else have they done? Sorry. I just don't know what they have done and would honestly like to know what changes they made. Thanks.1 -
Kutsuu✭✭✭✭✭xXSilverDragonXx wrote: »In case people don't realize, there are mag blades that use ice staves. God forbid they show up at a trial. Have you ever seen Hel Ra when someone in the group that was not a tank had a taunt because the were clueless about taunts? Yeah GFL. This one was an idea they came up with when they were baked on something and thought 'Oh they want a taunt. Let's give 'em one! The Staves don't have a taunt. Let's stick one on the ice staff!"
They had no idea what to do with frost and this is what we get.
You just can't defend this. Giving a staff a taunt makes no sense at all.
It's really cool for build diversity. The huge problem that I see is that there are WAY too many ways to get flat magicka returns that will allow magicka-based permablocking while still being able to invest in damage sets. This is going to be hilarious if it goes live.PC/NA
Envy Me - Sorc
Kutsus - NB
Kutsmuffin - Temp
Kutsuu the Destroyer - NB
Kutsuu - Temp
Natsu Dragoneel - DK
Kutsumo - NB1 -
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GM of Verum Aeternus, PC EU
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✭✭✭✭✭Magicka tanks are a thing. Giving them a decent magicka-based weapon for tanking is nice. I'm used to using sword & board on both bars for my magicka tanks, and I'm now considering switching to a frost staff on one bar instead.
Someone stole my sweetrollCaius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp2 -
Junipus✭✭✭✭✭xXSilverDragonXx wrote: »In case people don't realize, there are mag blades that use ice staves. God forbid they show up at a trial. Have you ever seen Hel Ra when someone in the group that was not a tank had a taunt because the were clueless about taunts? Yeah GFL. This one was an idea they came up with when they were baked on something and thought 'Oh they want a taunt. Let's give 'em one! The Staves don't have a taunt. Let's stick one on the ice staff!"
They had no idea what to do with frost and this is what we get.
You just can't defend this. Giving a staff a taunt makes no sense at all.
It's really cool for build diversity. The huge problem that I see is that there are WAY too many ways to get flat magicka returns that will allow magicka-based permablocking while still being able to invest in damage sets. This is going to be hilarious if it goes live.
Don't worry, they nerfed those too. Now we all get a flat 400 magicka return no matter what. Only through magicka return sets can you effectively tank with these ice staff changes.The Legendary Nothing0 -
UrQuan✭✭✭✭✭
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The beauty of it is that you can have S&B on one bar and frost staff on the other, and if you run out of stamina while blocking with you S&B but still have plenty of magicka you swap bars to the frost staff and block with your magicka, or vice versa.xXSilverDragonXx wrote: »In case people don't realize, there are mag blades that use ice staves. God forbid they show up at a trial. Have you ever seen Hel Ra when someone in the group that was not a tank had a taunt because the were clueless about taunts? Yeah GFL. This one was an idea they came up with when they were baked on something and thought 'Oh they want a taunt. Let's give 'em one! The Staves don't have a taunt. Let's stick one on the ice staff!"
They had no idea what to do with frost and this is what we get.
You just can't defend this. Giving a staff a taunt makes no sense at all.
It's really cool for build diversity. The huge problem that I see is that there are WAY too many ways to get flat magicka returns that will allow magicka-based permablocking while still being able to invest in damage sets. This is going to be hilarious if it goes live.
Don't worry, they nerfed those too. Now we all get a flat 400 magicka return no matter what. Only through magicka return sets can you effectively tank with these ice staff changes.
Someone stole my sweetrollCaius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp5 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oh, oh wait, nobody said it yet?
They are making Ice Staff into a defensive weapon because Warden is coming, and it is a defensive class with frost skills
Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.8 -
yodased✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭IF that procs tremorscale ffs that is too strongTl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.0 -
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✭✭xXSilverDragonXx wrote: »In case people don't realize, there are mag blades that use ice staves. God forbid they show up at a trial. Have you ever seen Hel Ra when someone in the group that was not a tank had a taunt because the were clueless about taunts? Yeah GFL. This one was an idea they came up with when they were baked on something and thought 'Oh they want a taunt. Let's give 'em one! The Staves don't have a taunt. Let's stick one on the ice staff!"
They had no idea what to do with frost and this is what we get.
You just can't defend this. Giving a staff a taunt makes no sense at all.
putting it on an ice staff makes even less.
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dodgehopper_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Oh, oh wait, nobody said it yet?
They are making Ice Staff into a defensive weapon because Warden is coming, and it is a defensive class with frost skills
I hope so.US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
US/AD - Arondonimo - Vet Altmer Sorcerer | US/AD - Azumarax - Vet Dunmer Dragon Knight
US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
US/EP - Yngmar - Vet Nord Dragon Knight | US/EP - Reloth Ur Fyr - Vet Dunmer Sorcerer
US/DC - Muiredeach - Vet Breton Sorcerer | US/DC - Nachtrabe - Vet Orc Nightblade
EU/DC - Dragol gro-Unglak - Vet Orc Dragon Knight | EU/DC - Targan al-Barkan - Vet Redguard Templar
EU/DC - Wuthmir - Vet Nord Sorcerer | EU/DC - Kosh Ragotoro - Vet Khajiit Nightblade
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✭✭✭✭✭*group finder forms a group*
Player 1: "Wait, where's your Sword n Board? You queued as a tank."
Player 2: "Oh yeah I am! See my Ice Staff? "
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Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »
They'd better hand out Class Change tokens for when they do Would def turn my main into a Warden 
"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU4 -
LordGavus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Seemed weird to me at first, but a frost snare tank build could be interesting.
Would give my Mag tank a new ranged taunt, proc tremor scale maybe, drop wall of frost, would keep the trash snared.
Worth a test anyway.2
