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Is an 80,000 health Blazing Shield Tank leading a Zerg of Nightblades good enough reason? This was literally a first for me. Get your bridge building tools out, the river's coming.

I've lived my life with the term "Deal with it" instilled into my brain whenever something negative happens, but that still won't stop me from believing things could use a major overhaul. Come up with possible ideas to counteract what I experience whenever I go against my better judgement and enter a Campaign. Like perhaps capping everyone's Health bar at a max of say 50k in PvP areas, or...RNGesus I don't know. This makes me want to just go back to Planetside, at least everything's on equal footing over there.

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  • mr1sho
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    It's simple don't hit the blazing focus on the dps
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  • Keep_Door
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    Ignore it or go playplanetside

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  • Flameheart
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Is an 80,000 health Blazing Shield Tank leading a Zerg of Nightblades good enough reason? This was literally a first for me. Get your bridge building tools out, the river's coming.

    I've lived my life with the term "Deal with it" instilled into my brain whenever something negative happens, but that still won't stop me from believing things could use a major overhaul. Come up with possible ideas to counteract what I experience whenever I go against my better judgement and enter a Campaign. Like perhaps capping everyone's Health bar at a max of say 50k in PvP areas, or...RNGesus I don't know. This makes me want to just go back to Planetside, at least everything's on equal footing over there.

    Old news. The build is almost 3 months old: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/eso-blazplar-blasing-shield-templar-pvp-build-one-tamriel/

    The icing of the cake is the monster set he uses -> Swarm Mother :-)

    Actually guys who develope such builds have my full respect.

    Edited by Flameheart on January 2, 2017 12:23PM
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  • DRXHarbinger
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    Lol I love seeing gank blades jump at these guys. Even better when they put power of the light on the attacker.
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  • kevlarto_ESO
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    Nope OP, it is just one more thing that is wrong with pvp, cheese builds bad for the game, things like this should not even be in game.
  • ArchMikem
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    Im ashamed to admit i got triggered, and decided to respec my magplar into a blaze shield health build like that, and then immediately lost the will and gave up. I didnt want to abandon my investment into the gear and playstyle i have.

    Thats 2,800 crowns in respec scrolls i'll never get back...
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  • starkerealm
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    With the way ESO is set up, PvP should be more... I guess, structured. It needs to be more of a closed system, where you're building from the same tools that everyone else has access to.

    I'd even go so far as to say that PvP should probably be on characters completely segregated from PvE content, and vice versa.
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  • Serjustin19
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    mr1sho wrote: »
    It's simple don't hit the blazing focus on the dps

    It's kinda hard to not hit and ignore Blazing Shield Tanks. When your opponents are actually 5 of them at same time attacking you. At least long range weapons helps out greatly though.
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  • Paulington
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Im ashamed to admit i got triggered, and decided to respec my magplar into a blaze shield health build like that, and then immediately lost the will and gave up. I didnt want to abandon my investment into the gear and playstyle i have.

    Thats 2,800 crowns in respec scrolls i'll never get back...

    Why buy respec scrolls? :lol:.

    Love seeing the builds people come up with, Blazing tanks are a great example of focusing on one specific ability of a class to the extreme.
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Im ashamed to admit i got triggered, and decided to respec my magplar into a blaze shield health build like that, and then immediately lost the will and gave up. I didnt want to abandon my investment into the gear and playstyle i have.

    Thats 2,800 crowns in respec scrolls i'll never get back...

    You do know you can do this for gold, right?

    Anyway, yeah, if you're solo it's hard to do, but in a group if you die to a blazing shield + DPS group that is similarly skilled to you then it's the crown's fault. By now every good crown should be saying "start by hitting the 2nd one in first" and "leave the tank alone" like it's second nature.
    Edited by THEDKEXPERIENCE on January 2, 2017 3:19PM
  • Joy_Division
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Im ashamed to admit i got triggered, and decided to respec my magplar into a blaze shield health build like that, and then immediately lost the will and gave up. I didnt want to abandon my investment into the gear and playstyle i have.

    Thats 2,800 crowns in respec scrolls i'll never get back...

    Then you should appreciate 80,000 blazing shield build is very dfficult to play. Plus you are completely dependent on opposing players acting stupidly (attacking you first, attacking you in melee range second).

    This build counters itself because of the difficulty involved in playing it and you as an opposing player can 100% ignore it because it does *nothing* to impede or threaten anybody.
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  • MaxwellC
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    Nah people aren't understanding, all this "Ignore them focus on DPS"; uhh yeah try that when they're guarding the DPS and Goodluck if that DPS is a magplar too because bursting them down doesn't help unless you got a small zerg but then again if there's more than 1 blazing shieldplar especially around 4 then it's over.

    I was at Sejanus bridge and saw that happen, AD/EP was feeding me AP then AD dropped it's tactical blazing shield squad of 3 blazing shieldplars and 2 magplar heal DPS. People negated and they simply walked out of it, they focused on the magplar healers and the blazing shield ran on top of the healer so they will take the damage. When the magplars got their ultimate, all you saw was a firestorm and blazing shieldplars popped a warhorn while the other a barrier, GG entire DC squad at Sejanus + EP got smacked.
    I fortunately got away by jumping from the look out point into the water.
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  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Nah people aren't understanding, all this "Ignore them focus on DPS"; uhh yeah try that when they're guarding the DPS and Goodluck if that DPS is a magplar too because bursting them down doesn't help unless you got a small zerg but then again if there's more than 1 blazing shieldplar especially around 4 then it's over.

    I was at Sejanus bridge and saw that happen, AD/EP was feeding me AP then AD dropped it's tactical blazing shield squad of 3 blazing shieldplars and 2 magplar heal DPS. People negated and they simply walked out of it, they focused on the magplar healers and the blazing shield ran on top of the healer so they will take the damage. When the magplars got their ultimate, all you saw was a firestorm and blazing shieldplars popped a warhorn while the other a barrier, GG entire DC squad at Sejanus + EP got smacked.
    I fortunately got away by jumping from the look out point into the water.

    I hear you. It's a tough situation, but Magplars in general are the strongest group of players when grouped together. A single stam sorcerer for example should beat a single Magplar almost every time. But 5 on 5? 10 on 10? 50 on 50? I'm putting my money on the Magplars more and more with each bigger fight.

    Chances are 5 DPS Magplars would have killed you much more quickly while they volley Radiant Oppressions at you and Breath of Lifes at each other. The Blazplars probably just made it less efficient.
  • RedJoker
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    One of my toons is actually an 80,000 health Blazing Shield tank. In all honesty, it's sort of boring to play in PVP. It's cool when a NB ganker gets a surprise and can't burst me down, but in 1v1 fights, the other player usually gets tired of me spamming blazing shield and leaves. *shrug* Might change things up and make him into a stamplar for more variety.

  • Browiseth
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    whoa a niche build i wasn't prepared for and have little experience combatting
    zos should nerf it because i don't know how to counter it

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  • americansteel
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    80k health?
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  • Jeremy
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    80k health?

    It's probably possible. I imagine they wear that plague doctor's set to help them reach it.

    I doubt such a build would have much in the ways of a formidable offense though. So as others have suggested, you could probably just ignore it for the most part.

    I don't really see the harm in PvP having certain builds that are difficult to kill so long as they have to sacrifice offense to achieve it.
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    Browiseth wrote: »
    whoa a niche build i wasn't prepared for and have little experience combatting
    zos should nerf it because i don't know how to counter it

    ~eso in a nutshell

    By 'niche' you mean a build that shouldn't be possible in the first place?
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  • Jeremy
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    Browiseth wrote: »
    whoa a niche build i wasn't prepared for and have little experience combatting
    zos should nerf it because i don't know how to counter it

    ~eso in a nutshell

    By 'niche' you mean a build that shouldn't be possible in the first place?

    Why shouldn't it be possible?

    God forbid there is a build people can play that doesn't get instant killed.
    Edited by Jeremy on January 2, 2017 6:15PM
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    Nah people aren't understanding, all this "Ignore them focus on DPS"; uhh yeah try that when they're guarding the DPS and Goodluck if that DPS is a magplar too because bursting them down doesn't help unless you got a small zerg but then again if there's more than 1 blazing shieldplar especially around 4 then it's over.

    I was at Sejanus bridge and saw that happen, AD/EP was feeding me AP then AD dropped it's tactical blazing shield squad of 3 blazing shieldplars and 2 magplar heal DPS. People negated and they simply walked out of it, they focused on the magplar healers and the blazing shield ran on top of the healer so they will take the damage. When the magplars got their ultimate, all you saw was a firestorm and blazing shieldplars popped a warhorn while the other a barrier, GG entire DC squad at Sejanus + EP got smacked.
    I fortunately got away by jumping from the look out point into the water.

    Sounds like great strategy to me.
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    Nah people aren't understanding, all this "Ignore them focus on DPS"; uhh yeah try that when they're guarding the DPS and Goodluck if that DPS is a magplar too because bursting them down doesn't help unless you got a small zerg but then again if there's more than 1 blazing shieldplar especially around 4 then it's over.

    I was at Sejanus bridge and saw that happen, AD/EP was feeding me AP then AD dropped it's tactical blazing shield squad of 3 blazing shieldplars and 2 magplar heal DPS. People negated and they simply walked out of it, they focused on the magplar healers and the blazing shield ran on top of the healer so they will take the damage. When the magplars got their ultimate, all you saw was a firestorm and blazing shieldplars popped a warhorn while the other a barrier, GG entire DC squad at Sejanus + EP got smacked.
    I fortunately got away by jumping from the look out point into the water.

    I hear you. It's a tough situation, but Magplars in general are the strongest group of players when grouped together. A single stam sorcerer for example should beat a single Magplar almost every time. But 5 on 5? 10 on 10? 50 on 50? I'm putting my money on the Magplars more and more with each bigger fight.

    Chances are 5 DPS Magplars would have killed you much more quickly while they volley Radiant Oppressions at you and Breath of Lifes at each other. The Blazplars probably just made it less efficient.

    If grouped up, 50 hurricane will 1 shot anyone
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    80k health?

    It's probably possible. I imagine they wear that plague doctor's set to help them reach it.

    I doubt such a build would have much in the ways of a formidable offense though. So as others have suggested, you could probably just ignore it for the most part.

    I don't really see the harm in PvP having certain builds that are difficult to kill so long as they have to sacrifice offense to achieve it.

    i ran PD on a Nord no way neared 80k, alot of ppl say this and theyre running with 68k.


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    Jeremy wrote: »
    80k health?

    It's probably possible. I imagine they wear that plague doctor's set to help them reach it.

    I doubt such a build would have much in the ways of a formidable offense though. So as others have suggested, you could probably just ignore it for the most part.

    I don't really see the harm in PvP having certain builds that are difficult to kill so long as they have to sacrifice offense to achieve it.

    i ran PD on a Nord no way neared 80k, alot of ppl say this and theyre running with 68k.


    They could be exaggerating. Or they might be factoring in the blazing shield bonus as part of their health when they say that.
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  • Unsent.Soul
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    80k health?

    It's probably possible. I imagine they wear that plague doctor's set to help them reach it.

    I doubt such a build would have much in the ways of a formidable offense though. So as others have suggested, you could probably just ignore it for the most part.

    I don't really see the harm in PvP having certain builds that are difficult to kill so long as they have to sacrifice offense to achieve it.

    i ran PD on a Nord no way neared 80k, alot of ppl say this and theyre running with 68k.


    There's a link that tells you exactly how to do it. It's practically spelled out for you,
    Flameheart wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Is an 80,000 health Blazing Shield Tank leading a Zerg of Nightblades good enough reason? This was literally a first for me. Get your bridge building tools out, the river's coming.

    I've lived my life with the term "Deal with it" instilled into my brain whenever something negative happens, but that still won't stop me from believing things could use a major overhaul. Come up with possible ideas to counteract what I experience whenever I go against my better judgement and enter a Campaign. Like perhaps capping everyone's Health bar at a max of say 50k in PvP areas, or...RNGesus I don't know. This makes me want to just go back to Planetside, at least everything's on equal footing over there.

    Old news. The build is almost 3 months old: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/eso-blazplar-blasing-shield-templar-pvp-build-one-tamriel/

    The icing of the cake is the monster set he uses -> Swarm Mother :-)

    Actually guys who develope such builds have my full respect.

    All it took was scrolling up or even reading a few posts.
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Nah people aren't understanding, all this "Ignore them focus on DPS"; uhh yeah try that when they're guarding the DPS and Goodluck if that DPS is a magplar too because bursting them down doesn't help unless you got a small zerg but then again if there's more than 1 blazing shieldplar especially around 4 then it's over.

    I was at Sejanus bridge and saw that happen, AD/EP was feeding me AP then AD dropped it's tactical blazing shield squad of 3 blazing shieldplars and 2 magplar heal DPS. People negated and they simply walked out of it, they focused on the magplar healers and the blazing shield ran on top of the healer so they will take the damage. When the magplars got their ultimate, all you saw was a firestorm and blazing shieldplars popped a warhorn while the other a barrier, GG entire DC squad at Sejanus + EP got smacked.
    I fortunately got away by jumping from the look out point into the water.

    I hear you. It's a tough situation, but Magplars in general are the strongest group of players when grouped together. A single stam sorcerer for example should beat a single Magplar almost every time. But 5 on 5? 10 on 10? 50 on 50? I'm putting my money on the Magplars more and more with each bigger fight.

    Chances are 5 DPS Magplars would have killed you much more quickly while they volley Radiant Oppressions at you and Breath of Lifes at each other. The Blazplars probably just made it less efficient.

    If grouped up, 50 hurricane will 1 shot anyone

    Good god ... you're right. I was kind of thinking about a fight where you had 100 people kind of spread out. 50 hurricane spamming stam sorcs would be devastating in a confined area. Yikes.

    #nerfsmallareas :smile:
  • leepalmer95
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    Browiseth wrote: »
    whoa a niche build i wasn't prepared for and have little experience combatting
    zos should nerf it because i don't know how to counter it

    ~eso in a nutshell

    By 'niche' you mean a build that shouldn't be possible in the first place?

    Why shouldn't it be possible?

    God forbid there is a build people can play that doesn't get instant killed.

    A lot of builds won't get instant killed.

    None of them require 80k hp.
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  • Gilvoth
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    it's not right, you should not be allowed to do what people are doing.
    the fact is:
    the more you heal the less damage you should be able to do.
    the more you tank the less damage you should be able to do.
    that's the way it's suppose to be.
    plain and simple!


    Edited by Gilvoth on January 2, 2017 7:00PM
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