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Should Proc Sets Have the Crit Nerf for BOTH PVP AND PVE?

mr_wazzabi
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Imo nerfing proc sets for BOTH PVP AND PVE is ridiculous. I don't believe the pve aspect of the game was getting too easy for the general playerbase.

Proc sets ARE a problem in pvp and I think no crit is a fair nerf. It's not completely useless, but will be a lot harder to oneshot someone.

Please vote and explain your opinions.

WE NEED ZOS TO HEAR OUR OPINION ON THIS NERF!!!
Edited by mr_wazzabi on December 29, 2016 7:20PM
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Should Proc Sets Have the Crit Nerf for BOTH PVP AND PVE? 45 votes

PVP only
46%
Uriel_NocturneMadyStanelisnimbliVonovosiKommaRiggsyRiga_MortisaltemrielAliyavanamr_wazzabiLamiaiLord_EomerSJD_PhoenixBlakeabutler_BlasiusBad_CompanySovjetQbikenKooliospud1639 21 votes
PVE only
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nvyrlivvy7678 2 votes
Both PVP and PVE
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Solarikenpjwb16_ESOraglauthomas1970b16_ESOTHEDKEXPERIENCEdrax036X3inaSneaKWollustBeardimusVifenEldritchPenguinJamini 13 votes
No nerf, I suggest something else, please describe
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itsfatbassixiebulbousb16_ESOMalthornetechnohicPeekachu99ComboBreaker88Taylor_MBSoundwave 9 votes
Doesn't need a crit nerf, it's balanced for both
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  • ixie
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    No nerf, I suggest something else, please describe
    I would rather there was a global cooldown
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  • mr_wazzabi
    mr_wazzabi
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    PVP only
    Need more votes pls
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    Dunmer DK both stam/mag (depends what I feel like)
    Altmer Magicka NB
    Breton Magicka Sorc
    Redguard Stam Sorc
    Max CP
  • Uriel_Nocturne
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    PVP only
    PvP only.

    There is zero reason for this to ever affect PvE.

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  • mr_wazzabi
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    PVP only
    I would rather there was a global cooldown

    That would suffice as well, but with zos's track record of adding somewhat complicated code, they might break the whole game, hence the no crit nerf is an easier fix
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    Altmer Magicka TEMP
    Dunmer DK both stam/mag (depends what I feel like)
    Altmer Magicka NB
    Breton Magicka Sorc
    Redguard Stam Sorc
    Max CP
  • Riga_Mortis
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    PVP only
    This is a bad decision for the general player base nd I hope it doesn't make it to the live server
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  • technohic
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    No nerf, I suggest something else, please describe
    I would rather there was a global cooldown

    Cool down or DOT, or make them cost resources when they cast.
  • X3ina
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    Both PVP and PVE
    So crit a boss with your undaunted set such as grothdar/ilambris/stormfist/velidreth more than 25k damage in a second is balanced ? What is the difference here i just fail to see. Don't you people get a satisfaction when complete something by yourselves ?
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  • EldritchPenguin
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    Both PVP and PVE
    Personally, I think they need to do a ground-up rework of the core function of proc sets, because the way they work right now is just plain goofy. I mean, scaling off of CP and crit and nothing else? That just sounds really random. Either they should scale off of everything we have that affects our damage or nothing.

    Now, they do need to be humbled in PvP, and a couple outliers like Grothdarr and Ilambris need to be brought down as well for the PvE side, but other than that, I think they just primarily need to make up their minds about whether or not proc sets should scale with our stats.
    Edited by EldritchPenguin on December 29, 2016 7:59PM
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  • Qbiken
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    PVP only
    X3ina wrote: »
    So crit a boss with your undaunted set such as grothdar/ilambris/stormfist/velidreth more than 25k damage in a second is balanced ? What is the difference here i just fail to see. Don't you people get a satisfaction when complete something by yourselves ?

    First of all: This argument is just as stupid as saying: " If you rely on your gear to achieve dps you need to L2P". Might be the most *** argument I´ve seen. See it the other way around. Before 1 tamriel some content might have been to difficult for some people. Making it impossible to complete. With new monster sets, "that" specific content might be doable just because of really good gear (because that is what the monster sets are, gear). And isn´t that the purpose of ESO, to play the content???

    And what do you mean doing it by yourself?? Just because alcast and some other toptierplayers with youtubechannels says something is "overperforming" doesn´t mean they are overperforming (maybe overperforming for them since they know how to push dps to its limits in trials, but for the majority procsets doesn´t overperform in PvE). If you think the majority of the damage comes from procsets you´re very mistaken. The procsets (take Kragh as an example) is there to push out the last of my dps (to min/max). Why should I lose an opportunity to max out my dps just because of some mindless PvP rants??

    And I think the main-reason ppl are mad of this "sneak-peak update" is because it was supposed to fix procsets for PvP. Instead they only nerfed it for PvE. How many posts about nerfing procsets in PvE have you seen since 1 tamriel ?(about 0, maybe some of the toptierplayers doing vetrials mentioning they were overperforming in a YT vid but otherwise 0) How many posts about fix procsets in PvP have we seen? (Way to many I´ll tell you that). The new changes won´t effect pvp the slightest.
  • livvy7678
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    PVE only
    Hurr Durr, half asleep and voted for the wrong one. I believe it should only be nerfed for PvP. No reason for it to be nerfed in PvE
  • bulbousb16_ESO
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    No nerf, I suggest something else, please describe
    Ditch them entirely, continue with 5-set bonuses only.
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  • raglau
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    Both PVP and PVE
    Ditch them entirely, continue with 5-set bonuses only.

    This ^^.

    Either nerf procsets in both PvE and PvP in order craftable and other 5 set bonus sets are viable, or just remove them from the game, they are very gimmicky anyway.
  • Jamini
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    Both PVP and PVE
    More complaining without even testing the changes.

    Threads like this were going to happen no matter what happened to proc sets.

    The change is clearly intended to be for both PvP and PvE. Accept it, wait for PTS to test it, and move on.

    Chances are it's going to be a very small change to overall DPS. If you are pulling 7k from Grothdar's alone, you are looking at 4900 of that coming from critical hits. Of which half of that (actually 49.4% with warhorn) would still be perserved.

    Meaning that with warhorn, you are losing 2.4k DPS, or so. Not exactly build-breaking.
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  • ComboBreaker88
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    No nerf, I suggest something else, please describe
    Global Cooldown on all prock sets. 3 or 4 seconds. Problem solved.
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