Hey Zos - I am happy to see you taking your time on the next update

the_man_of_steal
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Just want to give some feedback. This game has been amazing fun and I have played since console launch. I just wanted to tell you guys that I think it is very smart to take as much time as needed to make sure the balancing and nerfs are perfect. Some parts of the updates have been absolutely fabulous... other parts need adjusting and tweaking. Take your time cause honestly I am still having a blast in Cyrodiil on multiple builds and the lag has been a little better even on PS4. Bravo guys, keep doing what you're doing.
  • Jimbullbee85
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    LOL... Zosling mole detected. Sorry couldn't resist.
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  • mb10
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    Nah its just Christmas and New Year. They've given each other extended leave.
  • elvenmad
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    Just want to give some feedback. This game has been amazing fun and I have played since console launch. I just wanted to tell you guys that I think it is very smart to take as much time as needed to make sure the balancing and nerfs are perfect. Some parts of the updates have been absolutely fabulous... other parts need adjusting and tweaking. Take your time cause honestly I am still having a blast in Cyrodiil on multiple builds and the lag has been a little better even on PS4. Bravo guys, keep doing what you're doing.

    "balancing and nerfs are perfect" All the time I'v been playing NOTHING they have ever done as ever been 'perfect', every one fix as brought at least 2 more issues and the list is growing very fast. In fact I have yet to see anything they say they will do or they are working on ever actually happen, at least like they said it would be.

    They are not doing anything at the moment , except maybe counting all the money they been making from Crown Crates.
    This game has the most down time for maintance and fixes I have ever played in 20+ years of playing online MMORPG's, yet it has the least fix's and improvements. Sorry but I laughed so hard at your post I fell off my chair !

    Edited by elvenmad on December 21, 2016 7:35PM
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  • Milvan
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    Me too, but if they don't come up with a new trial and new group dungeons next update with housing it will be a MAJOR let down.
    Edited by Milvan on December 21, 2016 3:46PM
    “Kings of the land and the sky we are; proud gryphons.” Stalker stands, the epitome of pride. Naked and muscular, his wings widen and his feet dig in as if he alone holds down the earth and supports the heavens, keeping the two ever separate.”
    Gryphons guild - @Milvan,
  • the_man_of_steal
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    elvenmad wrote: »
    Just want to give some feedback. This game has been amazing fun and I have played since console launch. I just wanted to tell you guys that I think it is very smart to take as much time as needed to make sure the balancing and nerfs are perfect. Some parts of the updates have been absolutely fabulous... other parts need adjusting and tweaking. Take your time cause honestly I am still having a blast in Cyrodiil on multiple builds and the lag has been a little better even on PS4. Bravo guys, keep doing what you're doing.

    "balancing and nerfs are perfect" All the time I'v been playing NOTHING they have ever done as ever been 'perfect', every one fix as brought at least 2 more issues and the list is growing very fast. In fact I have yet to see anything they say they will do or they are working on ever actually happen, at least like they said it would be.

    They are not doing anything at the moment , except maybe counting all the money they been making from Crown Crates.
    This game has the most down time for maintance and fixes I have ever played in 20+ years of playing online MMORPG's, yet it has the least fix'x and improvements. Sorry but I laughed so hard at your post I fell off my chair !

    I guess I don't share that sentiment, but your opinions and views certainly should be accounted for. From my perspective, every one tweak they've made has resulted in two new issues. So I would rather they take time to delve into the ramifications of their changes instead of hurrying to make more money. Also, I will never spend on crown crates lol but whatevs such is gaming life.

    P.S. I wish I worked for zos lol hire meeeeeee
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    elvenmad wrote: »
    Just want to give some feedback. This game has been amazing fun and I have played since console launch. I just wanted to tell you guys that I think it is very smart to take as much time as needed to make sure the balancing and nerfs are perfect. Some parts of the updates have been absolutely fabulous... other parts need adjusting and tweaking. Take your time cause honestly I am still having a blast in Cyrodiil on multiple builds and the lag has been a little better even on PS4. Bravo guys, keep doing what you're doing.

    "balancing and nerfs are perfect" All the time I'v been playing NOTHING they have ever done as ever been 'perfect', every one fix as brought at least 2 more issues and the list is growing very fast. In fact I have yet to see anything they say they will do or they are working on ever actually happen, at least like they said it would be.

    They are not doing anything at the moment , except maybe counting all the money they been making from Crown Crates.
    This game has the most down time for maintance and fixes I have ever played in 20+ years of playing online MMORPG's, yet it has the least fix'x and improvements. Sorry but I laughed so hard at your post I fell off my chair !

    I guess I don't share that sentiment, but your opinions and views certainly should be accounted for. From my perspective, every one tweak they've made has resulted in two new issues. So I would rather they take time to delve into the ramifications of their changes instead of hurrying to make more money. Also, I will never spend on crown crates lol but whatevs such is gaming life.

    P.S. I wish I worked for zos lol hire meeeeeee

    You would have to find out what company they are outsourcing all the work to. Then get a job there.

    *adjust tinfoil hat*
    Edited by vyndral13preub18_ESO on December 21, 2016 4:16PM
  • Kram8ion
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    They've been gone for while now and left the game on autopilot,why do you think maintenance times have been so short
    Probably sipping martini
    Aussie lag is real!
  • outsideworld76
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    PvP lag is still huge, making it very favorable for ganking/high burst build to get easy AP. Combined with Viper/Velidreth/Tremorscale bugged proc change means instant death for most.
  • Khaos_Bane
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    I'd say ZoS has worked pretty hard since game release. This game has had HUGE improvements made to it and far exceeds the game it was at release, in both content and community playing together.

    The only thing I feel has gotten worse is class balance, class skills(so many useless ones), and class skill morphs sta/mag. Basically everything in @Wrobel space is a disorganized mess IMO.

    The classes, roles, and skills in this game are heading toward an epic disaster and QUICKLY. The majority of skills need to be OVERHAULED so the huge pile of useless skills can be considered for builds.

    Class skills seem to have been made more homogeneous, and class defining skills get nerfed. This is a terrible idea and should be stopped. Classes should have powerful class defining skills that make other classes jealous of the skill. When this happens people whine and @Wrobel nerfs.

    This division between STA and MAG is making an absolute disorganized mess of class skills. Class skills need work and should scale off of your highest resource pool or soft caps should be re-introduced.
  • elvenmad
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    Khaos_Bane wrote: »
    The only thing I feel has gotten worse is class balance, class skills(so many useless ones), and class skill morphs sta/mag. Basically everything in @Wrobel space is a disorganized mess IMO.

    The classes, roles, and skills in this game are heading toward an epic disaster and QUICKLY. The majority of skills need to be OVERHAULED so the huge pile of useless skills can be considered for builds.

    Class skills seem to have been made more homogeneous, and class defining skills get nerfed. This is a terrible idea and should be stopped. Classes should have powerful class defining skills that make other classes jealous of the skill. When this happens people whine and @Wrobel nerfs.

    This division between STA and MAG is making an absolute disorganized mess of class skills. Class skills need work and should scale off of your highest resource pool or soft caps should be re-introduced.

    I agree, I seriouslly dont understand how they keep making such a mess of everything, its like decisions and 'fix' ideas are coming from people who have no idea about how thinigs really work practically and in game, and there is quite obvouslly no thought at all put into 'knock on' effects.

    Biggest mistake I have ever seen is all the dmg proc sets, there was no thought or understanding put into them or how they would actually work at all.........come on !..........no global cooldowns......procs that are instant, guaranteed and that do more damage than default class skills, , the ability to equipe 3 proc sets and have them ALL proc at the very same time.............really! LOL, this was a disaster waiting to happen and the bad thing is they did not see it, did not listen to PTS feedback were the issues were very clearlly warned about, , just complete lack of thought.

    I dont know whether it is just apaulinglly bad development or they are not not given the time to properly design and test stuff, I think most likelly the latter. previous experience claerlly shows every fix is a 'quick fix' then return to developing somthing else shinny and new to hopefully distract attention from previous issues, this has been going on for months now, it is sad, so much of this game is just simply broken and it is broken due to things that anybody with half a brain and sone real MMO experience could spot straight away and most did on PTS and they reported it to, but it was ignoired.
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  • Vaoh
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    Yup! I hear ya!

    Absolutely LOVE the silence and lack of information.... -_-
    Edited by Vaoh on December 22, 2016 2:19PM
  • Khaos_Bane
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    elvenmad wrote: »
    Khaos_Bane wrote: »
    The only thing I feel has gotten worse is class balance, class skills(so many useless ones), and class skill morphs sta/mag. Basically everything in @Wrobel space is a disorganized mess IMO.

    The classes, roles, and skills in this game are heading toward an epic disaster and QUICKLY. The majority of skills need to be OVERHAULED so the huge pile of useless skills can be considered for builds.

    Class skills seem to have been made more homogeneous, and class defining skills get nerfed. This is a terrible idea and should be stopped. Classes should have powerful class defining skills that make other classes jealous of the skill. When this happens people whine and @Wrobel nerfs.

    This division between STA and MAG is making an absolute disorganized mess of class skills. Class skills need work and should scale off of your highest resource pool or soft caps should be re-introduced.

    I agree, I seriouslly dont understand how they keep making such a mess of everything, its like decisions and 'fix' ideas are coming from people who have no idea about how thinigs really work practically and in game, and there is quite obvouslly no thought at all put into 'knock on' effects.

    Biggest mistake I have ever seen is all the dmg proc sets, there was no thought or understanding put into them or how they would actually work at all.........come on !..........no global cooldowns......procs that are instant, guaranteed and that do more damage than default class skills, , the ability to equipe 3 proc sets and have them ALL proc at the very same time.............really! LOL, this was a disaster waiting to happen and the bad thing is they did not see it, did not listen to PTS feedback were the issues were very clearlly warned about, , just complete lack of thought.

    I dont know whether it is just apaulinglly bad development or they are not not given the time to properly design and test stuff, I think most likelly the latter. previous experience claerlly shows every fix is a 'quick fix' then return to developing somthing else shinny and new to hopefully distract attention from previous issues, this has been going on for months now, it is sad, so much of this game is just simply broken and it is broken due to things that anybody with half a brain and sone real MMO experience could spot straight away and most did on PTS and they reported it to, but it was ignoired.

    Well everything that is really screwed up in this game is essentially under one person . This person probably has the most difficult job in this game.

    The rest of this game is fantastic.
    Edited by Khaos_Bane on December 22, 2016 2:24PM
  • the_man_of_steal
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    This is really the only game that has captured my full attention and I crave playing since Destiny was released years ago. The reason I left Destiny was because Bungie was trying to control what we used and discounted the time investment a player made in getting the new gear offered. When I saw their lack of caring about my time investment, I left cold turkey and never looked back.

    Honestly I love this game, I love the artwork, I love the ease of interacting with fellow players, I love the changes they made to make it less of a grind to get to V16 level (please don't go past CP160 for another year ZOS). I really enjoy the incorporation of Heavy into builds and hope Light and Medium will get some buffs soon so they can compete...

    That being said, I roll with a High Elf Magplar wearing all light (Julianos, Willpower healthy, and 3 transmutation on the back bar and can still survive a 7 man onslaught for a few minutes. Plus my DPS is insane if I don't screw up my buffs, animation canceling, and rotation. Full disclosure I usually run with a group of 2-5 on that char so that does make a difference. I could not see solo play on that char being fun at all as Magplars are slow AF and I can't cloak.

    The biggest criticism I have so far has not affected me directly but I understand older and savvier player's issues with this: Crafters. Crafters have no means to really make gold in this game and a master crafter takes a ton of every day investment and constant attention to one's progress. Plus nirnhorned stuff costs if you are forced to buy it from a trader for research. I feel bad for crafters most of all. I am certain this will be fixed in the coming installments.

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