Should ESO give us a NEW RACE/CLASS? (perhaps Celestial?) or something..

Artis · December 2016

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Artis wrote: »

No please, no more classes. If we wanted a class-based MMO we'd play WoW.

Give us the TES feel, make it possible to try everything with just one character. Remove classes rather than add.

@Artis

No.

The worst thing that could be done is remove classes as that would leave us with only one meta dps build and make the game extremely boring.

Omg, ESO would become the worst MMO ever if they did that.

No the worst thing has already been done. And it's adding classes. Multiple people asked to remove them since testing. The only bright moment was that they removed(didn't add) the 5th class.

And no, it's easy to force people to run different builds. Make many buffs that you need different skills for and they will have to run different skills to get all those buffs. And then each build will have to optimize its own rotation to still perform to the best of their potential.

wenchmore420b14_ESO · December 2016

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Celestials are practically mortal gods.

Kind of Overpowered don't you think?

Yes..This^.
Research the lore. Celestials were Nedes who transinded to become the Celestials. It's like asking if we could be Aedra in game. So, no.
Snow Elves~ No. They have become Falmer and been underground for a millinia now.
Dragons~ lmao...NO!
Dwemer~ No.. They are gone except one.. Again just no.

A good sourse of lore so to inform new players to the Elder Scrolls Universe....
https://www.imperial-library.info/
This site has been around since Arena and over 20 years of TES lore.
Huzzah!

Edit: Almost forgot.."Not again! Another one of these threads"....lol..

DPShiro · December 2016

lordrichter wrote: »

DPShiro wrote: »

Been a while? We have never had a new class since launch.

And no.

And lol Celestial? Do you even read the story/lore? Why not implement Deadric Princes as playable classes too?

Well, to extend upon what I said about Races, I can certainly see "Play as a Daedra" being offered in the Crown Store, with a selection of different types of human-looking Daedra. By that, I mean standard size characters, two arms, two legs, easily created to wear existing equipment. Of all the "races", this would be the easiest to justify in Lore, and would also be the easiest to introduce without breaking the 3rd Era.

Easy to justify in lore?! Ease off the skooma.

And you know they are immortal right?

Hodicus · December 2016

will classes ever be balanced? There will always be those people who will find an OP meta, and this goes for absolutely every video game ranging from card games like HS or TES Legends to FPS like Battlefield. I have truly never seen a time in video game history where a game was perfectly balanced lol

So yes, I am all for new classes. Rather have more options to mess with then try and fix an issue that will never, ever, ever be fixed.

idk · December 2016

Artis wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Artis wrote: »

No please, no more classes. If we wanted a class-based MMO we'd play WoW.

Give us the TES feel, make it possible to try everything with just one character. Remove classes rather than add.

@Artis

No.

The worst thing that could be done is remove classes as that would leave us with only one meta dps build and make the game extremely boring.

Omg, ESO would become the worst MMO ever if they did that.

No the worst thing has already been done. And it's adding classes. Multiple people asked to remove them since testing. The only bright moment was that they removed(didn't add) the 5th class.

And no, it's easy to force people to run different builds. Make many buffs that you need different skills for and they will have to run different skills to get all those buffs. And then each build will have to optimize its own rotation to still perform to the best of their potential.

@Artis

Your flat out wrong. Just because a small number of players would want it, just because it was the way for the single player TES games, doesn't mean it's how it should be.

A classless MMO would most certainly be bad. Boring. Down right pitiful. So bad it would be laughable.

And that's why it's an extremely small minority that think classes should be abolished.

nanarchy_ESO · December 2016

Personally, I'm of the belief that we should get rid of classes completely. Didn't need them in previous Elder Scrolls games, don't need them now. Maybe restrict us to 3 of the class skill lines. Or don't even give us access to class skills as a new character until we do a quest to unlock them. Lots of ways to do it. The current class system is just way to restrictive for a game series known for letting you do what you want when you want.

Vrienda · December 2016

The warden class to complete the magic themes with Ice and Nature. Maybe a necromancer at some point.

But we don't need any new races. The 10 we have now are enough. No others have/deserve development.

kewl · December 2016

They will. Once the game goes f2p new classes will be locked behind a pay wall. I predict necromancy will be 1st.

DragonBound · December 2016

Daganerabus wrote: »

Its been a while since we have seen a new class.
Sooooo...
What do you think?

**Should Eso give us a "New Race/Class?" Perhaps a celestial class or something? **

What are your thoughts and ideas? ??

Warden has been confirmed I believe.

Abeille · December 2016

CosmicSoul wrote: »

Daganerabus wrote: »

Its been a while since we have seen a new class.
Sooooo...
What do you think?

**Should Eso give us a "New Race/Class?" Perhaps a celestial class or something? **

What are your thoughts and ideas? ??

Warden has been confirmed I believe.

Not officially confirmed, its skill lines were just recently datamined, that's all.

Rev Rielle · December 2016

A new race, perhaps. But it wouldn't really make sense.
But there's not really scope in the game for a new class. Not the way the mechanics are sadly.

Fodore · December 2016

a race would just be too far... From data mining though people have said the warden class is coming. Personally I don't really want any new class/race... maybe a new skill tree for each class for something? idk, wand and board might be cool too.

Just me fantasizing probably

Elsonso · December 2016

DPShiro wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

DPShiro wrote: »

Been a while? We have never had a new class since launch.

And no.

And lol Celestial? Do you even read the story/lore? Why not implement Deadric Princes as playable classes too?

Well, to extend upon what I said about Races, I can certainly see "Play as a Daedra" being offered in the Crown Store, with a selection of different types of human-looking Daedra. By that, I mean standard size characters, two arms, two legs, easily created to wear existing equipment. Of all the "races", this would be the easiest to justify in Lore, and would also be the easiest to introduce without breaking the 3rd Era.

Easy to justify in lore?! Ease off the skooma.

And you know they are immortal right?

It is terribly easy to justify in lore. They already exist in the game They are ubiquitous in the game. They often help the people of Tamriel. Justified.

Do you think, for even an instant, that if Bethesda thought they could make a ton of money off of "Play as a Daedra" that they would not slot it into a future update? I don't.

Daedra seem to be as immortal as we are. I can't see how that would be any issue at all. When they "die", they just reform. Pretty much the same as we do. Sure, it is supposed to take a while to do it, but who is to say that we can't find a plausible reason to speed things up a bit?

Artis · December 2016

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

@Artis

Your flat out wrong. Just because a small number of players would want it, just because it was the way for the single player TES games, doesn't mean it's how it should be.

A classless MMO would most certainly be bad. Boring. Down right pitiful. So bad it would be laughable.

And that's why it's an extremely small minority that think classes should be abolished.

No you're absolutely wrong here. Instead of forcing people to be stuck in one class, you can force groups to combine different builds by giving access to many buffs but not making it possible to have them all on one-two character. Not only you will have "classes", but you have them all different depending on the group AND the best part is that you can try them all without having to reroll and repeat all the achievements etc.

And no, it's not a small minority who thinks that.

A classes MMO would be amazing. Or having classes but letting us respec for gold or doing quests. Whatever it takes to not constrain us. It's ok if lots of skill lines won't be able to be used together - like vamp and werewolf, for example, - as long as we can switch between different sets and thus have access to all skills.

MissKiwiana · December 2016

KimoBitz wrote: »

Daganerabus wrote: »

KimoBitz wrote: »

Daganerabus wrote: »

Why not?

According to data mining there is a class rumored to be introduced called the warden.similar to the druid in wow with some tweaks.

Ironic. Someone blasted me recently, stating that Eso is not "wow" .... lol, and that eso is not following along the lines of wow. Yet, I see so much similarity. Accept wow... is more expansive, and updates in realtime! with little downtime. lol.

ESO is like a new born compared to wow.Wait a few years and trust me ESO will evolve while wow slowly fades.

@KimoBitz

I believe this is beginning to happen with WoW now. I feel they can't have the good life forever. And a lot of the original writers and designers have left one after the other. Smells fishy to me.

I played and supported Blizzard games for 10 years more so WoW. But this latest expansion drove me away and I am sure many others.

The idea of stripping a character to the bare minimum of what it was just didn't sit well with me at all. I understand the need for change with a growing game but they went too far. And don't get me started on how they screwed over crafting.

I was NOT a happy camper believe me.

TheShadowScout · December 2016

Ooo... Forum Deja Vue?
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/309141/new-classes-races/p1

Anyhow... "Celestial"? You mean, like the celestial thief, or celestial mage?? As player race???
That's pretty much like asking for a "god" player race.
Not gonna happen.
After all, they are not a race as such, these are the physical representations of a stellar constallation. Consider them the Tamriel "Zodiac Spirits". Not something viable as player race. Or base for a new class. Not even if there is a way for a mortal to become one (and kinda go mad in the process I suppose - see "Exalted Viper")

Sure, new stuff would be nifty. If done right. My thoughts on that should be known by now... I'd love to see something new on the class front, but preferably something that can be "refitted" to existing characters so people who have been playing since launch and already have a dozend ESO characters can enjoy it, and not just the newcomers. Not in the least also because of the danger of "Waah, why was this class not available when I made that character, it'd have been so much better for the backstory" vexation. Thus my often quoted ideas on the matter: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/240186/class-morph-idea/p1

New races are also a possibility. There are quite a few that could be added as crown store unlock with minimal effort - Maormer, Reachmen, Goblins... and a couple more wich might be also possible.

And of course there is also other new stuff that might happen...
...like new weapon skill lines: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/259011/additional-weapon-skill-ideas/p1
...or new Guilds: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/306759/additional-guild-ideas

Rosveen · December 2016

nvm

cravnbeer · December 2016

No new playable races because of lore.

No to new classes because I rather see new skill lines.

Izaki · December 2016

New race won't happen, because we already have all the playable races from other TES games.

New class could be cool.

Anything new goes.

Abeille · December 2016

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

New race won't happen, because we already have all the playable races from other TES games.

That's how I feel, too. I think that we are only going to get a new race if the main series introduces a new race first.

Daganerabus · December 2016

MissKiwiana wrote: »

KimoBitz wrote: »

Daganerabus wrote: »

KimoBitz wrote: »

Daganerabus wrote: »

Why not?

According to data mining there is a class rumored to be introduced called the warden.similar to the druid in wow with some tweaks.

Ironic. Someone blasted me recently, stating that Eso is not "wow" .... lol, and that eso is not following along the lines of wow. Yet, I see so much similarity. Accept wow... is more expansive, and updates in realtime! with little downtime. lol.

ESO is like a new born compared to wow.Wait a few years and trust me ESO will evolve while wow slowly fades.

@KimoBitz

I believe this is beginning to happen with WoW now. I feel they can't have the good life forever. And a lot of the original writers and designers have left one after the other. Smells fishy to me.

I played and supported Blizzard games for 10 years more so WoW. But this latest expansion drove me away and I am sure many others.

The idea of stripping a character to the bare minimum of what it was just didn't sit well with me at all. I understand the need for change with a growing game but they went too far. And don't get me started on how they screwed over crafting.

I was NOT a happy camper believe me.

I last played Lich King days. I never played during the Panda days. But, I have heard how far down hill that game went. It was an amazing game. Now, allegedly, everything is practically given away, u can buy gold from blizzard.... so i hear, and even fully decked out maxxed level characters! wow.... to wow..... Eso seems to be heading in a similar direction.... with ALL THIS .."LETS HAND OUT XP LIKE CANDY, LET NEW PPL LEVEL UP TO CP160 in an Hour in a half!" lime seriously?

We worked countless hours, days, weeks on iur eso toons. We earned our positions through great struggles and frustrations. Then.... well, feels like zos duped us. And why? ..... because of GREED..... its all about the money, the Crowns, and playing on our psyche.

AetherSatori · December 2016

I'm not fussed about new races but I would cry sweet tears of joy for a Warden class.

Abeille · December 2016

AetherSatori wrote: »

I'm not fussed about new races but I would cry sweet tears of joy for a Warden class.

You and me both.
Especially if ZOS lets me change two of my existing characters into Wardens instead of making me reroll. Although I would totally reroll if they didn't.

Daganerabus · December 2016

Abeille wrote: »

AetherSatori wrote: »

I'm not fussed about new races but I would cry sweet tears of joy for a Warden class.

You and me both.
Especially if ZOS lets me change two of my existing characters into Wardens instead of making me reroll. Although I would totally reroll if they didn't.

We ALL KNOW.... ZOS will NEVER give ANYTHING too freely. and that IT WILL ALWAYS COST Money/Crowns.
sadly.

Elsonso · December 2016

Daganerabus wrote: »

I last played Lich King days. I never played during the Panda days. But, I have heard how far down hill that game went. It was an amazing game. Now, allegedly, everything is practically given away, u can buy gold from blizzard.... so i hear, and even fully decked out maxxed level characters! wow.... to wow..... Eso seems to be heading in a similar direction.... with ALL THIS .."LETS HAND OUT XP LIKE CANDY, LET NEW PPL LEVEL UP TO CP160 in an Hour in a half!" lime seriously?

The players are to blame for a lot of this, both with WoW and with ESO. People just want to have the reward. It is boring to do the work to get it, and they are willing to pay the money to go straight to the reward. In the worst case, they expect the game studio to just give it to them, for free. If a game won't provide it, well, they will just go find a game that does.

As for buying gold from Blizzard, yes, they have added that. You buy game time and sell it to Blizzard for gold. Someone else can buy that game time with gold.

WoW likes to add races and classes with each expansion. That might be fueling part of the demand over here, as well. Frankly, I think that this has cluttered up WoW too much. I suppose they are doing it because their player-base is bored, having mastered whatever build they currently have. This is, in part, driven by the fact that it is so easy to get to that point. Eh. For me, the journey is much more interesting than the destination. That is probably why it took me a thousand character-hours (43 days and 20 hours) to get to VR16, the first time.

ESO has plenty of races. We could use more classes, or better, a classless system with a diverse set of skills that could be use to build characters Lego-fashion. I get why ESO went with classes, it is easier to develop and balance, easier for the player to conceptually understand, and tends to be more forgiving of mistakes.

Abeille · December 2016

Daganerabus wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

AetherSatori wrote: »

I'm not fussed about new races but I would cry sweet tears of joy for a Warden class.

You and me both.
Especially if ZOS lets me change two of my existing characters into Wardens instead of making me reroll. Although I would totally reroll if they didn't.

We ALL KNOW.... ZOS will NEVER give ANYTHING too freely. and that IT WILL ALWAYS COST Money/Crowns.
sadly.

I would gladly pay the price.
As long as it is through direct purchase and not random chance, it's fine by me.

TheShadowScout · December 2016

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

New race won't happen, because we already have all the playable races from other TES games...

So what? There are still NPC races around that could be made playable. Whoever said only solo TES games may introduce new stuff? As long as it is not completely clashing with the lore... why not?

Abeille wrote: »

AetherSatori wrote: »

I'm not fussed about new races but I would cry sweet tears of joy for a Warden class.

You and me both.
Especially if ZOS lets me change two of my existing characters into Wardens instead of making me reroll. Although I would totally reroll if they didn't.

That is the main quibe I have with the "new classes" cry. Having played since launch, and twelve characters already... so much time invested... I totally would feel ceated if they just added the warden class now. Unless... they also added some way to refit it to existing characters.
Though I much rather they went with something like my "Class Morph" idea instead of just adding one more class - let everyone morph their classes from the basic four to different "prestige class" flavors...

I also would not mind if they added new stuff in the way of world skill lines, or new guilds, so that everyone can grab something new and nifty. After all, more then enough possibilities there as well, from joining some rangers club to train animal companions to learning nature magic from Wyress/Spinners/Treeminders to learning ice magic from some old hermit in an icy corner of Skyrim coming in some DLC someday... and many, many more such possibilities!

Daganerabus · December 2016

TheShadowScout wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

New race won't happen, because we already have all the playable races from other TES games...

So what? There are still NPC races around that could be made playable. Whoever said only solo TES games may introduce new stuff? As long as it is not completely clashing with the lore... why not?

Abeille wrote: »

AetherSatori wrote: »

I'm not fussed about new races but I would cry sweet tears of joy for a Warden class.

You and me both.
Especially if ZOS lets me change two of my existing characters into Wardens instead of making me reroll. Although I would totally reroll if they didn't.

That is the main quibe I have with the "new classes" cry. Having played since launch, and twelve characters already... so much time invested... I totally would feel ceated if they just added the warden class now. Unless... they also added some way to refit it to existing characters.
Though I much rather they went with something like my "Class Morph" idea instead of just adding one more class - let everyone morph their classes from the basic four to different "prestige class" flavors...

I also would not mind if they added new stuff in the way of world skill lines, or new guilds, so that everyone can grab something new and nifty. After all, more then enough possibilities there as well, from joining some rangers club to train animal companions to learning nature magic from Wyress/Spinners/Treeminders to learning ice magic from some old hermit in an icy corner of Skyrim coming in some DLC someday... and many, many more such possibilities!

The ability to "Truly Evolve" a class....
ya, that would'nt be such a bad idea? It would allow more flexibility for sure.

azoriangaming · December 2016

i'd love to see new classes and races come out but for now I'd like them to fix and balance the classes and races we already have before throwing new ones into the mix,

Hodicus · December 2016

Daganerabus wrote: »

I last played Lich King days. I never played during the Panda days. But, I have heard how far down hill that game went. It was an amazing game. Now, allegedly, everything is practically given away, u can buy gold from blizzard.... so i hear, and even fully decked out maxxed level characters! wow.... to wow..... Eso seems to be heading in a similar direction.... with ALL THIS .."LETS HAND OUT XP LIKE CANDY, LET NEW PPL LEVEL UP TO CP160 in an Hour in a half!" lime seriously?

We worked countless hours, days, weeks on iur eso toons. We earned our positions through great struggles and frustrations. Then.... well, feels like zos duped us. And why? ..... because of GREED..... its all about the money, the Crowns, and playing on our psyche.

I'm currently leveling my first max level character in ESO, I have well over 40 hours played and am only level 44. Yes players can power level through content and not slowly go through it and enjoy it. But that is the player choice's.