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Possible way to solve zergs in IC and Sewers

Paneross
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Lets face it, 30 man zergs don't belong in Imperial city and they make it not fun to play against. I would love to face even teams like 5v5.

So here's a possible solution. You take a health debuff for each person you have over 7 in your group.


Just an idea, guys. Not insulting anyone.

Incoming"Maybe you should get more friends or guild to run with."
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Noooooo

    I don't even like this games PvP and that's a big nooo


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  • Tryxus
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    I don't want to get penalized for grouping up with others... especially for Molag Bal
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  • DRXHarbinger
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    30 people are even in IC at once?
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  • Paneross
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    30 people are even in IC at once?

    Last night on Xbox Scourge or even Haderus.
    Just seas of zergs out there.
  • xenowarrior92eb17_ESO
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    lel 30 ppl In IC? I camped in there for 2 weeks on all campaigns on EU/PC and I swear I met 5 ppl at best on TF that is... the other ones were the same 2 people and that was on black the rest were deserted wastelands...so I think we need to reconsider the activity if talking about IC and also cyrodill is a wasteland overall... wana fix it? how about making it a pve area with free pvp like world pvp in there... I'm pretty sure that would solve most of it... let aside the fact that right now I play ganker and I have no1 to gank... is either zerg or nothing...one out of 2
  • Danksta
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    That would be a waste of time to implement. Do I even need to mention the simple, obvious workaround here?
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  • XDragonDoomX
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    Paneross wrote: »
    Lets face it, 30 man zergs don't belong in Imperial city and they make it not fun to play against. I would love to face even teams like 5v5.

    So here's a possible solution. You take a health debuff for each person you have over 7 in your group.


    Just an idea, guys. Not insulting anyone.

    Incoming"Maybe you should get more friends or guild to run with."

    which would then mean 7 groups of 5, all hooked up together on teamspeak/discord/etc to avoid the debuff
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  • TequilaFire
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    Limit groups in an MMO?
  • Isellskooma
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    I don't want to get penalized for grouping up with others... especially for Molag Bal

    Molag Bal is so easy, I two man that ***. And you should get penalized for zerging.
  • OOJIMMY
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    You're just mad that zergs killed you for ganking PvE players.
    Edited by OOJIMMY on December 20, 2016 3:47AM
  • nine9six
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    IC & Sewers = Group of 6+ Stacking on each other. Chains + CC + Destro Ult rotation. Loads of fun. Come down and enjoy!
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  • Riejael
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    If you're in a group of 2, and get trounced by 20. You were outplayed. 20 takes much more coordination than 2. It requires more charisma, leadership, and force of personality to run a large group.

    If you think I'm crazy or wrong, try it yourself. No seriously go make a 20 man group right now and get them to drop in the same area in the next 5 minutes.

    That takes connections, respect, and reputation to pull off. Not simply texting your bud to go run shtuff.

    Anyone who can continually run multiple groups the way they do, deserve to dominate the field. Get your act together or just be farm bait.
  • Xsorus
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    A blue icon can manage that in GW2 just saying lol
  • Katahdin
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    Uh, no
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  • Malmai
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    How to fix zergs... Easy if more than 4 in your group than every enemy kill takes 1000 gold away from you and lets see who will roll in zergs haha.
  • Jamini
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    Riejael wrote: »
    If you're in a group of 2, and get trounced by 20. You were outplayed. 20 takes much more coordination than 2. It requires more charisma, leadership, and force of personality to run a large group.

    If you think I'm crazy or wrong, try it yourself. No seriously go make a 20 man group right now and get them to drop in the same area in the next 5 minutes.

    That takes connections, respect, and reputation to pull off. Not simply texting your bud to go run shtuff.

    Anyone who can continually run multiple groups the way they do, deserve to dominate the field. Get your act together or just be farm bait.

    Someone talking sense for once?

    Madness.
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  • Paneross
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    Riejael wrote: »
    If you're in a group of 2, and get trounced by 20. You were outplayed. 20 takes much more coordination than 2. It requires more charisma, leadership, and force of personality to run a large group.

    If you think I'm crazy or wrong, try it yourself. No seriously go make a 20 man group right now and get them to drop in the same area in the next 5 minutes.

    That takes connections, respect, and reputation to pull off. Not simply texting your bud to go run shtuff.

    Anyone who can continually run multiple groups the way they do, deserve to dominate the field. Get your act together or just be farm bait.

    This may be the single dumbest thing I have ever read on these forums.
    Edited by Paneross on December 20, 2016 12:59PM
  • Paneross
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    Riejael wrote: »
    If you're in a group of 2, and get trounced by 20. You were outplayed. 20 takes much more coordination than 2. It requires more charisma, leadership, and force of personality to run a large group.

    Can I report this for being the most asinine comment I've ever had my entire life?
  • Izaki
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    Riejael wrote: »
    If you're in a group of 2, and get trounced by 20. You were outplayed. 20 takes much more coordination than 2. It requires more charisma, leadership, and force of personality to run a large group.

    If you think I'm crazy or wrong, try it yourself. No seriously go make a 20 man group right now and get them to drop in the same area in the next 5 minutes.

    That takes connections, respect, and reputation to pull off. Not simply texting your bud to go run shtuff.

    Anyone who can continually run multiple groups the way they do, deserve to dominate the field. Get your act together or just be farm bait.

    wtf did i just read?
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  • Isellskooma
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    Riejael wrote: »
    If you're in a group of 2, and get trounced by 20. You were outplayed. 20 takes much more coordination than 2. It requires more charisma, leadership, and force of personality to run a large group.

    If you think I'm crazy or wrong, try it yourself. No seriously go make a 20 man group right now and get them to drop in the same area in the next 5 minutes.

    That takes connections, respect, and reputation to pull off. Not simply texting your bud to go run shtuff.

    Anyone who can continually run multiple groups the way they do, deserve to dominate the field. Get your act together or just be farm bait.

    You have problems.
  • Paneross
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    Riejael wrote: »
    If you're in a group of 2, and get trounced by 20. You were outplayed. 20 takes much more coordination than 2. It requires more charisma, leadership, and force of personality to run a large group.

    If you think I'm crazy or wrong, try it yourself. No seriously go make a 20 man group right now and get them to drop in the same area in the next 5 minutes.

    That takes connections, respect, and reputation to pull off. Not simply texting your bud to go run shtuff.

    Anyone who can continually run multiple groups the way they do, deserve to dominate the field. Get your act together or just be farm bait.

    You have problems.

    Indeed he does. 20 people could get together and light attack and still kill a duo. No worries when battlegrounds comes out, his kind will not survive.
  • BlackEar
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  • DragonBound
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    Riejael wrote: »
    If you're in a group of 2, and get trounced by 20. You were outplayed. 20 takes much more coordination than 2. It requires more charisma, leadership, and force of personality to run a large group.

    If you think I'm crazy or wrong, try it yourself. No seriously go make a 20 man group right now and get them to drop in the same area in the next 5 minutes.

    That takes connections, respect, and reputation to pull off. Not simply texting your bud to go run shtuff.

    Anyone who can continually run multiple groups the way they do, deserve to dominate the field. Get your act together or just be farm bait.

    wtf did i just read?

    Why is this so hard for you to grasp? He is 100 percent correct, do you not have real life interactions or something? Everyday life with people should teach you this already.
  • the_man_of_steal
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    Riejael wrote: »
    If you're in a group of 2, and get trounced by 20. You were outplayed. 20 takes much more coordination than 2. It requires more charisma, leadership, and force of personality to run a large group.

    If you think I'm crazy or wrong, try it yourself. No seriously go make a 20 man group right now and get them to drop in the same area in the next 5 minutes.

    That takes connections, respect, and reputation to pull off. Not simply texting your bud to go run shtuff.

    Anyone who can continually run multiple groups the way they do, deserve to dominate the field. Get your act together or just be farm bait.

    CHARISMA!!! omg im dying here rofl. That comment made my Christmas!

    The truth is that this game has enough lag issues that 9/10 times the bigger zerg will win the fight regardless of skill or coordination (Charisma might be the trump card). I don't mind the zergs but I wouldn't mind seeing a buff for 2 man teams or solo players to help even out the odds. This would especially make IC a more crowded and interesting place since very few players want to venture in solo these days.
  • Crown
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    When I feel the need for some Telvar stones, I usually go with a group of 3, and we look for the large groups of 10+. If we're really lucky we'll find a group of 20+. Coordinated ultis will often net us 50k+ stones each. If we then die, that's still net 25k stones that we walk away with. I want more 20+ person groups in IC!

    EDIT: Auto correct on IOS sucks.
    Edited by Crown on December 20, 2016 3:22PM
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  • Berenhir
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    This game is designed around group fights. Some people call it zerging and think it is a bad thing that should be somehow prevented. But it is the core if not the only viable strategy in this game's PvP (which is officially called AvA for this very reason). Everything is directed at improving group experience, the game is advertised as a large scale epic AvA »BATTLE« MMO. And the bigger and more organized a group is, the better they fight and the more kills they can accomplish in battle.

    What's wrong with you people? This is no hack and slay I am the unkillable hero fighting against thousands of dimwitted barely dangerous mobs with cool animations game. If you want that, stay PVE.

    If you want to duel, you have the option now. If you want to limit enemy player encounters in builds and numbers to a frequency you can just manage, well, here's a big fat LOL for you.
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  • arkansas_ESO
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    Riejael wrote: »
    If you're in a group of 2, and get trounced by 20. You were outplayed. 20 takes much more coordination than 2. It requires more charisma, leadership, and force of personality to run a large group.

    If you think I'm crazy or wrong, try it yourself. No seriously go make a 20 man group right now and get them to drop in the same area in the next 5 minutes.

    That takes connections, respect, and reputation to pull off. Not simply texting your bud to go run shtuff.

    Anyone who can continually run multiple groups the way they do, deserve to dominate the field. Get your act together or just be farm bait.

    You seriously don't need "charisma, leadership, and force of personality" to run a pug group. It's as simple as posting "type 123 for group" in zone chat, and then telling people to follow crown. You don't need voice chat. You don't need coordination. Assuming 50% (and that's an absolute worst case scenario) of the group won't follow crown, with a 24-man group you'll still have 12 people following crown. 12 people is more than enough to stomp any solo and two-man groups you come across.

    Let's be real here. Leading a group doesn't take a likeable personality, or tactics that would amaze Sun Tzu. You seriously just have to have the capability to post in zone chat.


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  • arkansas_ESO
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    I don't want to get penalized for grouping up with others... especially for Molag Bal

    You're already punished for running with a large group to kill Molag Bal, loot only drops for 12 people. That's intended to stop zergs.


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  • WhitePawPrints
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    Riejael wrote: »
    If you're in a group of 2, and get trounced by 20. You were outplayed. 20 takes much more coordination than 2. It requires more charisma, leadership, and force of personality to run a large group.

    "Outplayed" huh? I think that is called being ZERGED! Outplaying another player is when 2 vs 20 results in 20 dead.

    Leading a group, PVP or PVE requires only one thing: people that can listen. You can be as charismatic as you think you are, but there are people who will listen when playing games, and people who will do what they want.
    Edited by WhitePawPrints on December 20, 2016 3:37PM
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