congrats to PC NA Trueflame players (come inside)

Telel · December 2016

Ghostbane wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

Humble khajiit must offer a counterpoint for the issue involving everyone and their stuffed bantam Guar going to one spot. At least as far as the Dumbminion goes.

Right now there is a lack of consistent leaders willing to take on any interested players, and give them a proper education in the fine art of horrifically murdering elves, and elf like humans. This means that sometimes you'll see maybe one group that likes winning doing its best to push against dozens of opponents, and the rest of the faction lurching along in their wake.

You'll also have groups of elfish sorts doing things that actively hurt their

Minalan wrote: »

nml wrote: »

AD takes the lead in Trueflame - third place to first place
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/308775/ad-takes-the-lead-2-hours-from-3rd-to-1st-trueflame-north-america-pc-mac/p1?new=1

And of course, AD is insufferable about it. This is why nobody wants to see you win.

This one thought it was because so many were jealous of how well humble and terrible players do when being double teamed by those who keep saying they're better than the worst player in the game.

But then Telel thinks many things wrong people think are silly. Or at least they tell this one that is true so often that they know better not to argue.

Mostly as it would be impolite, and might lead to rumors of Khajiit being good at the game. Such atrocious accusations yes?

@Telel

A guild has been setup to educate the new players on the basics, needs plenty of advertisement. Tell them to pm @stealthyevil

Oh that is good to know. While Telel is of course infamouse for their....educational nature they understand that not all dumbminionnites enjoy being taught to PVP the way the daddy eagle teaches the baby eagle how not to go splat upon the ground.

Especially when one's mindset marks one as being more like a penguin. Or an emu.

antihero727 · December 2016

Telel wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

Humble khajiit must offer a counterpoint for the issue involving everyone and their stuffed bantam Guar going to one spot. At least as far as the Dumbminion goes.

Right now there is a lack of consistent leaders willing to take on any interested players, and give them a proper education in the fine art of horrifically murdering elves, and elf like humans. This means that sometimes you'll see maybe one group that likes winning doing its best to push against dozens of opponents, and the rest of the faction lurching along in their wake.

You'll also have groups of elfish sorts doing things that actively hurt their

Minalan wrote: »

nml wrote: »

AD takes the lead in Trueflame - third place to first place
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/308775/ad-takes-the-lead-2-hours-from-3rd-to-1st-trueflame-north-america-pc-mac/p1?new=1

And of course, AD is insufferable about it. This is why nobody wants to see you win.

This one thought it was because so many were jealous of how well humble and terrible players do when being double teamed by those who keep saying they're better than the worst player in the game.

But then Telel thinks many things wrong people think are silly. Or at least they tell this one that is true so often that they know better not to argue.

Mostly as it would be impolite, and might lead to rumors of Khajiit being good at the game. Such atrocious accusations yes?

@Telel

A guild has been setup to educate the new players on the basics, needs plenty of advertisement. Tell them to pm @stealthyevil

Oh that is good to know. While Telel is of course infamouse for their....educational nature they understand that not all dumbminionnites enjoy being taught to PVP the way the daddy eagle teaches the baby eagle how not to go splat upon the ground.

Especially when one's mindset marks one as being more like a penguin. Or an emu.

You can't teach people that have already watched their @sypherpk, @Deltia, or @FENGRUSH video because they know everything now. A group of 6 is a zerg. There is only 1 true faction, DC since all the streamers are. All of this 1vx crap has made me give up on running groups as of late. Seems like people don't want to run as a group but want to be one shot heros until it fails then scurry back to the group for help. If they can't get back cry for the group to rez half a keep away. I say shouldn't have been a squirrel have a happy ride of shame back.

olivesforge · December 2016

I gave up leading the AD pugs some time ago. Probably because they are more interested in returning quests, griping about long rides, ignoring where crown is and general idiocy than they are about actually fighting and playing the game.

Eventually, if you can put up with it all for some time, the reward for getting good at leading pugs is guild drama, because some people don't get enough soap operas from TV.

So now I spend all my time accidentally typing things in the wrong chat channels. This is all the fun I have left.

antihero727 · December 2016

olivesforge wrote: »

I gave up leading the AD pugs some time ago. Probably because they are more interested in returning quests, griping about long rides, ignoring where crown is and general idiocy than they are about actually fighting and playing the game.

Eventually, if you can put up with it all for some time, the reward for getting good at leading pugs is guild drama, because some people don't get enough soap operas from TV.

So now I spend all my time accidentally typing things in the wrong chat channels. This is all the fun I have left.

Teabagging and yelling at plebs is it's own reward too. The prize is a headache.

pcar944 · December 2016

would like to congratulate DC on completely ruining such a GREAT and close campaign via nightcap

ZoS isn't ruining PvP, you skilless scrubs are

maxjapank · December 2016

pcar944 wrote: »

would like to congratulate DC on completely ruining such a GREAT and close campaign via nightcap

ZoS isn't ruining PvP, you skilless scrubs are

Dumb. Glad you went red supposedly.

fastolfv_ESO · December 2016

come on now how many days in a row did dc make up 100+ pts primetime on ep just to login the next day 150 down, it happens its a game and its still a close fun campaign. No matter who wins right now its gonna go down as a good one where all 3 sides put up a good fight

pcar944 · December 2016

fastolfv_ESO wrote: »

come on now how many days in a row did dc make up 100+ pts primetime on ep just to login the next day 150 down, it happens its a game and its still a close fun campaign. No matter who wins right now its gonna go down as a good one where all 3 sides put up a good fight

I know its been great, so close

pcar944 · December 2016

maxjapank wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

would like to congratulate DC on completely ruining such a GREAT and close campaign via nightcap

ZoS isn't ruining PvP, you skilless scrubs are

Dumb. Glad you went red supposedly.

I am glad I switched

only regret is I cant play with a couple people who are just forever DC, but that's fine

Celas_Dranacea · December 2016

Fight to the bitter end!!!!!!! FYI I'm going to look at score on Friday cause after that I'm busy with Christmas - whichever faction gains points after Friday are the biggest nerds who hate their families the most

This campaign has been awesome but emotionally exhausting! I'm gonna have to calm down about the next few.

pcar944 · December 2016

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Fight to the bitter end!!!!!!! FYI I'm going to look at score on Friday cause after that I'm busy with Christmas -

whichever faction gains points after Friday are the biggest nerds who hate their families the most lol

my last work day is tomorrow, then I'm off till Jan 3rd

its not over till its over!

there's been 250+ point leads before

what sucks is, if DC just continues to nightcap, they will literally just kill off any will for anyone to even try

maxjapank · December 2016

pcar944 wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Fight to the bitter end!!!!!!! FYI I'm going to look at score on Friday cause after that I'm busy with Christmas -

whichever faction gains points after Friday are the biggest nerds who hate their families the most lol

my last work day is tomorrow, then I'm off till Jan 3rd

its not over till its over!

there's been 250+ point leads before

what sucks is, if DC just continues to nightcap, they will literally just kill off any will for anyone to even try

How can it be nightcapping when pops are equal? You can say what you want to say, but it doesn't change the facts.

Celas_Dranacea · December 2016

maxjapank wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Fight to the bitter end!!!!!!! FYI I'm going to look at score on Friday cause after that I'm busy with Christmas -

whichever faction gains points after Friday are the biggest nerds who hate their families the most lol

my last work day is tomorrow, then I'm off till Jan 3rd

its not over till its over!

there's been 250+ point leads before

what sucks is, if DC just continues to nightcap, they will literally just kill off any will for anyone to even try

How can it be nightcapping when pops are equal? You can say what you want to say, but it doesn't change the facts.

Ok well I don't know about pop levels because I don't play at that time. But assuming pop is equal, honestly I don't hold it against DC for having organized groups on in the middle of the night. When this happens its on AD/EP to organize in that same time slot or else act as a counterbalance when we are on. Same would go for any other faction if there is a power/population gap.

maxjapank · December 2016

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

maxjapank wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Fight to the bitter end!!!!!!! FYI I'm going to look at score on Friday cause after that I'm busy with Christmas -

whichever faction gains points after Friday are the biggest nerds who hate their families the most lol

my last work day is tomorrow, then I'm off till Jan 3rd

its not over till its over!

there's been 250+ point leads before

what sucks is, if DC just continues to nightcap, they will literally just kill off any will for anyone to even try

How can it be nightcapping when pops are equal? You can say what you want to say, but it doesn't change the facts.

Ok well I don't know about pop levels because I don't play at that time. But assuming pop is equal, honestly I don't hold it against DC for having organized groups on in the middle of the night. When this happens its on AD/EP to organize in that same time slot or else act as a counterbalance when we are on. Same would go for any other faction if there is a power/population gap.

Agree totally. As much as I hate being double-teamed, that's exactly why there is AvAvA . And so far, I think the reason the scores have been close this campaign is because of pushing the faction that has the point lead. In the end, though, I don't think my guild or the players in it care much about the score or playing the map. We occasionally do help with it. But playing the map, running from keep to keep, and worrying about a campaign score can easily wear you down and eventually, you just become exhausted by it all. So sometimes the funnest times are just pushing back and forth between Aless farm to Bleakers, or Bleakers to Chal, or the Infamous Alessia bridge. Sometimes you just wanna fight.

SkylarkX · December 2016

maxjapank wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Fight to the bitter end!!!!!!! FYI I'm going to look at score on Friday cause after that I'm busy with Christmas -

whichever faction gains points after Friday are the biggest nerds who hate their families the most lol

my last work day is tomorrow, then I'm off till Jan 3rd

its not over till its over!

there's been 250+ point leads before

what sucks is, if DC just continues to nightcap, they will literally just kill off any will for anyone to even try

How can it be nightcapping when pops are equal? You can say what you want to say, but it doesn't change the facts.

Now now Alchuri, I wasn't on last night but the previous two DC were pop locked during oceanic and you know it.

Celas_Dranacea · December 2016

maxjapank wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

maxjapank wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Fight to the bitter end!!!!!!! FYI I'm going to look at score on Friday cause after that I'm busy with Christmas -

whichever faction gains points after Friday are the biggest nerds who hate their families the most lol

my last work day is tomorrow, then I'm off till Jan 3rd

its not over till its over!

there's been 250+ point leads before

what sucks is, if DC just continues to nightcap, they will literally just kill off any will for anyone to even try

How can it be nightcapping when pops are equal? You can say what you want to say, but it doesn't change the facts.

Ok well I don't know about pop levels because I don't play at that time. But assuming pop is equal, honestly I don't hold it against DC for having organized groups on in the middle of the night. When this happens its on AD/EP to organize in that same time slot or else act as a counterbalance when we are on. Same would go for any other faction if there is a power/population gap.

Agree totally. As much as I hate being double-teamed, that's exactly why there is AvAvA . And so far, I think the reason the scores have been close this campaign is because of pushing the faction that has the point lead. In the end, though, I don't think my guild or the players in it care much about the score or playing the map. We occasionally do help with it. But playing the map, running from keep to keep, and worrying about a campaign score can easily wear you down and eventually, you just become exhausted by it all. So sometimes the funnest times are just pushing back and forth between Aless farm to Bleakers, or Bleakers to Chal, or the Infamous Alessia bridge. Sometimes you just wanna fight.

The only exception to this is when we establish a pattern where one faction is just clearly overpopulated and has too big a zerg on a server to where the other sides don't have a chance.

In cases like above, it's on the offending faction to break up their zerg by moving a guild to another server, etc.

Not saying that's what we have right now and the power differential is not huge. Let's hope the AvAvA mechanic plays out and AD/EP have the good sense to hit DC and even up the score.

maxjapank · December 2016

SkylarkX wrote: »

maxjapank wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Fight to the bitter end!!!!!!! FYI I'm going to look at score on Friday cause after that I'm busy with Christmas -

whichever faction gains points after Friday are the biggest nerds who hate their families the most lol

my last work day is tomorrow, then I'm off till Jan 3rd

its not over till its over!

there's been 250+ point leads before

what sucks is, if DC just continues to nightcap, they will literally just kill off any will for anyone to even try

How can it be nightcapping when pops are equal? You can say what you want to say, but it doesn't change the facts.

Now now Alchuri, I wasn't on last night but the previous two DC were pop locked during oceanic and you know it.

I'm speaking on a general basis for most nights. As for the last two nights (I guess your are referring to Sat and Sun), populations were pretty even for both blue and yellow. Our guild did have a 12+ group going Sat. But Sun, we maybe had 7-8.
What you may have seen is a new Japanese group that came over on Saturday from Azura, I think. And we were just as surprised to see their presence as you. And weren't too happy when both blue and yellow were trying to dethrone EP at BRK, and then they decide to go and hit both Brindle and Roe...thus bringing AD back there.

EP also had a higher presence Sat / Sun as it's the weekend. And Haxus has been helping them some, too.

But really? Usually when I look at pop caps now for Sat and Sun, it's quite even. Even most week nights, yellow and blue are even as well.

Solariken · December 2016

maxjapank wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Fight to the bitter end!!!!!!! FYI I'm going to look at score on Friday cause after that I'm busy with Christmas -

whichever faction gains points after Friday are the biggest nerds who hate their families the most lol

my last work day is tomorrow, then I'm off till Jan 3rd

its not over till its over!

there's been 250+ point leads before

what sucks is, if DC just continues to nightcap, they will literally just kill off any will for anyone to even try

How can it be nightcapping when pops are equal? You can say what you want to say, but it doesn't change the facts.

Pops may appear equal but you have to remember that 2/3 of AD and 1/3 of EP are bumping uglies on the bridge while 3/3 DC are playing the map for their faction.

pcar944 · December 2016

maxjapank wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Fight to the bitter end!!!!!!! FYI I'm going to look at score on Friday cause after that I'm busy with Christmas -

whichever faction gains points after Friday are the biggest nerds who hate their families the most lol

my last work day is tomorrow, then I'm off till Jan 3rd

its not over till its over!

there's been 250+ point leads before

what sucks is, if DC just continues to nightcap, they will literally just kill off any will for anyone to even try

How can it be nightcapping when pops are equal? You can say what you want to say, but it doesn't change the facts.

whats your guild and whats your gt

maxjapank · December 2016

pcar944 wrote: »

maxjapank wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Fight to the bitter end!!!!!!! FYI I'm going to look at score on Friday cause after that I'm busy with Christmas -

whichever faction gains points after Friday are the biggest nerds who hate their families the most lol

my last work day is tomorrow, then I'm off till Jan 3rd

its not over till its over!

there's been 250+ point leads before

what sucks is, if DC just continues to nightcap, they will literally just kill off any will for anyone to even try

How can it be nightcapping when pops are equal? You can say what you want to say, but it doesn't change the facts.

whats your guild and whats your gt

sent you a private message.

pcar944 · December 2016

maxjapank wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

maxjapank wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Fight to the bitter end!!!!!!! FYI I'm going to look at score on Friday cause after that I'm busy with Christmas -

whichever faction gains points after Friday are the biggest nerds who hate their families the most lol

my last work day is tomorrow, then I'm off till Jan 3rd

its not over till its over!

there's been 250+ point leads before

what sucks is, if DC just continues to nightcap, they will literally just kill off any will for anyone to even try

How can it be nightcapping when pops are equal? You can say what you want to say, but it doesn't change the facts.

whats your guild and whats your gt

sent you a private message.

I got you I know your group

last I knew neither EP nor AD had the pop over night eastern time (outside of weekend)

its fine either way, I know certain someone that leads a pug group who is FAMOUS for night scroll and map capping - also waking up to a 300 score difference over night only leads to 1 explanation

NACtron · December 2016

maxjapank wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Fight to the bitter end!!!!!!! FYI I'm going to look at score on Friday cause after that I'm busy with Christmas -

whichever faction gains points after Friday are the biggest nerds who hate their families the most lol

my last work day is tomorrow, then I'm off till Jan 3rd

its not over till its over!

there's been 250+ point leads before

what sucks is, if DC just continues to nightcap, they will literally just kill off any will for anyone to even try

How can it be nightcapping when pops are equal? You can say what you want to say, but it doesn't change the facts.

Equal pop is important. But so is the amount of organized guilds running. This weekend DC seemed to have the most running by far past 12PM est. DC had 2-3 guilds active while EP had one. PM which was winding down for the night and done by 2 am. Can't speak for AD.

aidenmoore · December 2016

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

maxjapank wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Fight to the bitter end!!!!!!! FYI I'm going to look at score on Friday cause after that I'm busy with Christmas -

whichever faction gains points after Friday are the biggest nerds who hate their families the most lol

my last work day is tomorrow, then I'm off till Jan 3rd

its not over till its over!

there's been 250+ point leads before

what sucks is, if DC just continues to nightcap, they will literally just kill off any will for anyone to even try

How can it be nightcapping when pops are equal? You can say what you want to say, but it doesn't change the facts.

Ok well I don't know about pop levels because I don't play at that time. But assuming pop is equal, honestly I don't hold it against DC for having organized groups on in the middle of the night. When this happens its on AD/EP to organize in that same time slot or else act as a counterbalance when we are on. Same would go for any other faction if there is a power/population gap.

People need to stop spouting misinformation without the actual proof. Just because your friends or you heard someone said that DC is always pop locked or outnumbering any other faction during oceanic time that does not mean it is accurate. Do you know why DC failed to crown South Korean 5 times in a row? Because they are actually a healthy amount of opposite faction that defending keeps and seiging keeps.

If you want someone to blame for making DC having 300 score lead difference, its probably me. I had the pleasure to group up with South Korean after the maintenance finish. Wasn't my intention at first since I assume that he already have a guild group going on but apparently I am wrong. He was soloing, I met him at Nikel and throw him an invite to group.

I pointed out where he needs to go and where he should go to and he is being very cooperative. We didn't even wait for d-tick most of the time, we just keep going from 1 keep to another defending what we have. DC pugs in zone chat are surprisingly understanding to my suggestion. We ask aid to seige Brindle to further our score and politely ask them to avoid disturbing the dynamic that EP and AD had at the bridge.

I am glad that DC managed to crown him as Emperor and not just some AP farmer, 1VX people. He is one of the best and most enjoyable people that I group up with. He is very nice guy, humble and care about DC. Would glad to help him crown again.

These taken today after few hours South Korean as Emp.

Celas_Dranacea · December 2016

aidenmoore wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

maxjapank wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Fight to the bitter end!!!!!!! FYI I'm going to look at score on Friday cause after that I'm busy with Christmas -

whichever faction gains points after Friday are the biggest nerds who hate their families the most lol

my last work day is tomorrow, then I'm off till Jan 3rd

its not over till its over!

there's been 250+ point leads before

what sucks is, if DC just continues to nightcap, they will literally just kill off any will for anyone to even try

How can it be nightcapping when pops are equal? You can say what you want to say, but it doesn't change the facts.

Ok well I don't know about pop levels because I don't play at that time. But assuming pop is equal, honestly I don't hold it against DC for having organized groups on in the middle of the night. When this happens its on AD/EP to organize in that same time slot or else act as a counterbalance when we are on. Same would go for any other faction if there is a power/population gap.

People need to stop spouting misinformation without the actual proof. Just because your friends or you heard someone said that DC is always pop locked or outnumbering any other faction during oceanic time that does not mean it is accurate. Do you know why DC failed to crown South Korean 5 times in a row? Because they are actually a healthy amount of opposite faction that defending keeps and seiging keeps.

If you want someone to blame for making DC having 300 score lead difference, its probably me. I had the pleasure to group up with South Korean after the maintenance finish. Wasn't my intention at first since I assume that he already have a guild group going on but apparently I am wrong. He was soloing, I met him at Nikel and throw him an invite to group.

I pointed out where he needs to go and where he should go to and he is being very cooperative. We didn't even wait for d-tick most of the time, we just keep going from 1 keep to another defending what we have. DC pugs in zone chat are surprisingly understanding to my suggestion. We ask aid to seige Brindle to further our score and politely ask them to avoid disturbing the dynamic that EP and AD had at the bridge.

I am glad that DC managed to crown him as Emperor and not just some AP farmer, 1VX people. He is one of the best and most enjoyable people that I group up with. He is very nice guy, humble and care about DC. Would glad to help him crown again.

These taken today after few hours South Korean as Emp.

Cool man! Kudos for your acts of heroism... did you take offense at something I said?

Ghostbane · December 2016

Population is irrelevant to points progression.

Its how many people who know how to play the game and work as a team. Organised guilds help a crap ton too.

pcar944 · December 2016

Ghostbane wrote: »

Population is irrelevant to points progression.

Its how many people who know how to play the game and work as a team. Organised guilds help a crap ton too.

wtj organized guild

Drummerx04 · December 2016

Solariken wrote: »

Pops may appear equal but you have to remember that 2/3 of AD and 1/3 of EP are bumping uglies on the bridge while 3/3 DC are playing the map for their faction.

LOL. Your implication that all of DC is playing the map rather than mindlessly pug zerging along in either the Ales-Chal corridor or Ash-Roe corridor is completely absurd.

On average, how long would you say it takes AD/EP to get Roe/Chal back from DC? Maybe an hour? It usually takes DC upwards of 3+ hours to muster enough pugs to break through and recapture Ales or Ash.

Hell, today during prime time DC got pushed into Glademist by both opposing factions and any time my 12-18 man group would leave to try to reclaim a keep, we would get met with pact militia running two raids deep... and since naturally, no other DC groups were attacking anything, it was easy for them to just chill at a transitus shrine and wait for a zone call and port.

Bottom line: This campaign is the closest campaign score wise that I've ever seen. Each faction goes through its times and days where it dominates or gets utterly demolished, but no amount of "night capping" is going to suddenly put one faction 5000 points in the lead.

Manoekin · December 2016

Ghostbane wrote: »

Population is irrelevant to points progression.

Its how many people who know how to play the game and work as a team. Organised guilds help a crap ton too.

Or how many are actually there. How many times does each faction say "we're 3bars/poplocked where is everyone?"

Solariken · December 2016

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Solariken wrote: »

Pops may appear equal but you have to remember that 2/3 of AD and 1/3 of EP are bumping uglies on the bridge while 3/3 DC are playing the map for their faction.

LOL. Your implication that all of DC is playing the map rather than mindlessly pug zerging along in either the Ales-Chal corridor or Ash-Roe corridor is completely absurd.

@Drummerx04 you are probably right I'm really just firing shots at my own alliance (AD). I get pretty salty about that damned bridge, it makes me more ragey than the legion of proctards I wade through every day.

Drummerx04 · December 2016

Manoekin wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

Population is irrelevant to points progression.

Its how many people who know how to play the game and work as a team. Organised guilds help a crap ton too.

Or how many are actually there. How many times does each faction say "we're 3bars/poplocked where is everyone?"

I know DC asks this every time we lose a keep that is virtually undefended, or when we attack a back keep of an enemy alliance and end up wiping to a 2+ raid defensive response and DC doesn't even light Ales/Ash while simultaneously failing to protect Dragonclaw and Glademist. Pretty frustrating.

Have we figured out what the max pop is btw? I'm leaning towards ~100 as the upper limit. One of the times DC was being super zergy, Miat's new little addon gave a DC count of 70, and I don't think we had any sort of noteworthy presense anywhere else.