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Will Stam users get EXPOSED when Viper is nerfed next patch?

Paneross
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Among other procs sets getting the nerf, this is the BIG ONE.
Edited by Paneross on December 20, 2016 3:02AM

Will Stam users get EXPOSED when Viper is nerfed next patch? 108 votes

Yes
40%
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No
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  • Voxicity
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    No
    They'll nerf viper and buff something else ridiculously. Just you wait
  • Paneross
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    Yes
    KaiVox22 wrote: »
    They'll nerf viper and buff something else ridiculously. Just you wait

    Yea Magicka DK.
  • dotme
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    No
    Paneross wrote: »
    Among other procs sets gettinf the nerf, this is the BIG ONE.

    And your source is? ;)

    I die to Proc sets, I die to destro ults - These things do not trouble me, because I can always get them too if I'm so inclined.
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  • Karivaa
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    How do you guys know they are going to nerf the viper set? When is the next patch?
  • Kodrac
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    Like naked exposed?
  • Isellskooma
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    Yes
    99.99% of cyrodill won't be able to play, they'll gap close and only do 4K dmg then panic.
  • Vaoh
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    No
    Pretty sure Viper is turning into a DoT next patch, so it'll deal its damage over 4-8 seconds. Fengrush mentioned it as well as a few others.

    In other words, typical ZOS-style balancing.

    Instead of balancing stuff they either overbuff it (Dark Brotherhood - Viper proc damage buffed by 500%)
    OR
    Nerf it into the ground (becomes a DoT = almost worthless)
    Edited by Vaoh on December 19, 2016 7:18PM
  • Voxicity
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    No
    Karivaa wrote: »
    How do you guys know they are going to nerf the viper set? When is the next patch?

    Housing in feb. They've said they are aware of the problem with proc sets and will address them then.
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Some will . Not all . Vipers is a easy set to obtain so it would weed out only those that haven't gathered other sets that are BOP .
  • Kutsuu
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    No
    You'll still die to stamina players. People die to me all the time and I don't use Viper.
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  • s7732425ub17_ESO
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    "Exposed" does not really make sense. Find a different word.
  • Rataroto
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    Yes
    The bad ones. I just own viper because of vma, if not for that... I have self respect to run an honest build (idc if u hate eternal hunt, because u get hit by it. you're just bad so GG) and still destroy gankers in their pitty attemps.

    BTW, gg stands for Get Gud
  • Drusse
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    Really, worthless poll. The same people killing you with proc sets will be killing you without them. If you are really good, it shouldn't matter what the or guy is wearing. Stop with all the nerf this oh nerf that, and just play.
  • Voxicity
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    No
    Paneross wrote: »
    KaiVox22 wrote: »
    They'll nerf viper and buff something else ridiculously. Just you wait

    Yea Magicka DK.

    I bloody hope they don't buff them too much
    Edited by Voxicity on December 19, 2016 7:49PM
  • ManDraKE
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    No
    There is no such thing as "stamina users". Right now changing from stamina to magika is really simple, just respect and change race (if you don't have already another character with the proper race, nowadays with all the XP buff you can get a character to 50 in one day). You never asked yourself from where all the stamsorcs of this patch came from? all re-rolled magsorcs from the time where magsorcs where inmortal. Before this meta, the only stamsorcs i've ever seen on cyrodril were fengrush and thermidor, now you can't walk 5steps in cyrodrill withouth seeing one.

    When magika was the OP thing, everyone re-rolled magika, now stamina is the "OP" thing, so everyone rerolled stamina. If stamina gets nerfed badly, everyone will re-roll magika (many people already doing it, just for the destro ulti). All the "stamina vs magika users" fight is really stupid, you can switch back and foward in no time, people will keep following the meta

    If they overbuff magDK, you can be pretty sure that cyrodrill will be infested of magDKs
    Edited by ManDraKE on December 19, 2016 7:25PM
  • MrBrandon
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    Kutsuu wrote: »
    You'll still die to stamina players. People die to me all the time and I don't use Viper.

    Same. Over 5k weapon damage on my stamblade. To be honest I tried out viper and I kill people with my bow alone.
  • Sigtric
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    No
    I've been exposed since I took all my clothes off for the Snowbear challenge thing in Eastmarch and never bothered to put it back on.

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  • Edziu
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    No
    I think it will more end heavy armor meta because of almost all if not all except ganging NB are using heavy armor + viper to their burst, I have hope it will very affect those heavy armor scrubs and they will lost thei viper burst wearing heavy armor and they will be more forced to use more medium armor to have good damage instead of survivability and tankly in heavy armor with proc set burst
  • Rohaus
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    They are already exposed... in group fights, magicka dominates...
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  • OOJIMMY
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    All that's going to Happen is the few people who haven't switched to magic for destro ultimate will make the switch
  • Edziu
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    No
    99.99% of cyrodill won't be able to play, they'll gap close and only do 4K dmg then panic.

    99.99% of heavy armor users will panic because with proc set nerf they will finally lost they burst dmg if they are tankly, now to being tankly they sacrifacing almost nothing from damage to have good burst to be able kill anyone
  • Strider_Roshin
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    ZOS Logic in a nutshell:

    Get rid of stam regen while blocking to stop perma-blocking tanks.

    Then...

    Buff the crap out of Constitution, and come out with a SnS ult that allows you to perma-block again.

  • TrueGreenSmoker
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    I seen good stam sorcs without viper they also hit hard too they are more skilled tho then your unskilled or avarage stam sorc nothing but respect

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  • Malamar1229
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    there are certain words that result in getting a group kick. pwn, pleb, etc etc. Exposed in also one of those words.

    Stop talking like an internet tough guy
  • Father_X_Zombie
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    Yes
    Can't wait, sick of seeing scrubs getting carried by proc sets. Hope they don't over buff mag DKs though
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  • WillhelmBlack
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    Yes
    1vX will be possible once more. Get prepared 1 button wonders, you're all gonna get melted.

    Nah not really, they'll all re roll mag DK or Malutardplar.
    PC EU
  • Danksta
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    there are certain words that result in getting a group kick. pwn, pleb, etc etc. Exposed in also one of those words.

    Stop talking like an internet tough guy

    You seem to be the only one acting tough if I'm being honest, telling people what to do and all.
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  • KingDuncanVII
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    No
    Let's not act like Stamina players were weak before Viper. Lol.
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  • leepalmer95
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    Yes
    Some of these baddies getting carried by gear and going to get a shock when they gap close me and don't proc a free 20k tooltip of dmg.

    I'm calling it now all the salt of these forums and going to be 'can't kill these anymore too tanky or i can't kill them anymore'
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  • kevlarto_ESO
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    No
    Not really they kinda seem exposed now, but when zos does get their heads out of the sand and start fixing this proc mess a few players that rely on this crutch will have some l2p again all over.
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