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Dragons! Where are the dragons? I wanna kill dragons!

  • DannyLV702
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    Daedric Titans are ants in power compared to dragons.

    The reason there wouldn't and shouldn't be any dragons in ESO is because The Vestiges(yes plural) are not powerful enough to eve hope to defeat a real dragon.

    Read the word walls leading up to High Hrothgar...Dragons ruled everything...even the Daedric Princes were afraid of the dragon, they were more afraid of Alcuin mind you,but they fear dragons in general.

    It took the Blades armies of dragon killing warriors just to kill one dragon...

    Skyrim cheapens how strong dragons are, they are only killable by the Last Dragonnorn because not only is he dragonborn, he is an aspect of Talos....he is supremely powerful....put it this way...you could take every Vestige in Cyrodiil, let them gang up on the Last Dragonborn and they couldn't win...

    Listen to Durnevir in the Soul Carin had been around since the beginning and never lost a fight until The Last Dragonborn...he defeated any who stood in his way except Alduin.

    Parthurnaax was Alduins right hand man and first brother he conceals his true power from The Last Dragonborn.He is very powerful though, just smart.

    Cyrus was only able to kill Naaarflungus in TES:Redguard because he was an aspect of the Hoon-Ding which according to Kirkbride is the 2nd most powerful entity in the TES universe second only to Talos.

    1000 Vestiges wouldn't stand a chance against a Dragon let alone one of the named ones that have been around for a long time and are very powerful...The Last Dragonborn only makes it look easy because he is a Talos avatar with Talos Voice that he re-learns...he can shout them down.

    You make lore fun. I wish there was a book :(
  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    By the way there is a dragon flying around Imperial City currently.

    Not a Dragon.
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    ookami007 wrote: »
    With just the tiniest bit of imagination, you can easily have a dragon encounter.

    1) A Trial Where a hidden or presumed dead dragon is worshiped by a cult of whatevers - insert favorite bad guys here.

    3) A Trial Where a dead dragon is brought back to life by a cult of dragon worshiping whatevers - of course it's an undead dragon but still.

    3) A Trial Where the players travel back in time through some hole created by Molug Bal to bring a dragon back to lead his armies in the battle to take Tamriel. It can even be a dragon from history, because it was ASSUMED that the dragonguard killed it... but perhaps they just took credit for what a group of adventurers did when they suddenly appeared, killed the dragon and then disappeared without a trace.

    4) A Trial to prevent Molug Bal from awakening a dragon the the Dragonguard had trapped in a magical status field because it was too powerful for them to defeat back then. It finally breaks lose and... DRAGON FIGHT!

    So many options... with just a little imagination...

    Ha! If dragons are ever in eso they should be in cyrodiil where the real warriors of eso reside.
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    Because of this, seeing dragons as regular overworld encounters would go against the lore (and it should stay to just Skyrim)
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    So that's why all the angst...some altruistic loyalty to a fictional fantasy storyline that can be altered to the whim of the creator and author. C'mon... [snip]

    [edited for baiting]

    So thats why the post.....so you can pick a fight and also push for something that doesnt fit in the game and its setting......cause player wants dragons...C'mon.
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  • Abeille
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    Out of curiosity, Odahviing's burial mound is in ESO :)

    I believe it is the one north of Smokefrost Vigil, southeast of Riften.
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
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    Abeille wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, Odahviing's burial mound is in ESO :)

    I believe it is the one north of Smokefrost Vigil, southeast of Riften.

    Yes, I like that the Dragon Mounds are in game. When I first saw one I was thinking to myself "You are gonna cause SO much trouble in 1000 years" ...
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    Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!
  • wenchmore420b14_ESO
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    Abeille wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, Odahviing's burial mound is in ESO :)

    I believe it is the one north of Smokefrost Vigil, southeast of Riften.

    Yes! There are a lot of burial mounds in The Rift... :smiley:
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  • Hallothiel
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    Actually I am quite happy there aren't any [snip] dragons flying about & attacking me. Over-rated, imho, and seem to cause people to get very over-excited in a variety of ways. . ...


    (Apart from Kalessin. That is a proper dragon.)
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on February 7, 2018 8:43PM
  • Abeille
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    Abeille wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, Odahviing's burial mound is in ESO :)

    I believe it is the one north of Smokefrost Vigil, southeast of Riften.

    Yes! There are a lot of burial mounds in The Rift... :smiley:

    But Odahviing is special <3
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    There's a giant skeleton on top of the rocks of Sentinal beach . Was that a dragon ? There's still gooey parts rotting up there .
  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    You know though

    There is plenty of room for them to make a story about Daedric titans

    Perhaps one of the Titans still has his memory intact and still knows how to shout...that would actually be awesome and let ESO make its own stories

    That would make for a nice trial and they could even give him a name in the dragon language

    Like say

    Dinok Neh Nehl

    Death Never Living


    Get on it ZOS

    A dragon transformed into a titan that still remembers who he is and can still shout all other Titans bow to him, he seeks revenge on Alduin for not freeing him from this tortured existence

    There ya go. Got your names d your story for a new trial. Get it done

    PS: this Titan knows Unrelenting Force, Fire Breath, Frost Breath, Ice Form, Storm calling, and Drain Vitality shouts



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  • JD2013
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    There's a giant skeleton on top of the rocks of Sentinal beach . Was that a dragon ? There's still gooey parts rotting up there .

    I now need to go and check that out ...
    Sweetrolls for all!

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    Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    You know though

    There is plenty of room for them to make a story about Daedric titans

    Perhaps one of the Titans still has his memory intact and still knows how to shout...that would actually be awesome and let ESO make its own stories

    That would make for a nice trial and they could even give him a name in the dragon language

    Like say

    Dinok Neh Nehl

    Death Never Living


    Get on it ZOS

    A dragon transformed into a titan that still remembers who he is and can still shout all other Titans bow to him, he seeks revenge on Alduin for not freeing him from this tortured existence

    There ya go. Got your names d your story for a new trial. Get it done

    PS: this Titan knows Unrelenting Force, Fire Breath, Frost Breath, Ice Form, Storm calling, and Drain Vitality shouts



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  • Tryxus
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    There's a giant skeleton on top of the rocks of Sentinal beach . Was that a dragon ? There's still gooey parts rotting up there .

    I now need to go and check that out ...

    Could that thing in the Bone Orchard, Grahtwood, also be a dragon? You know, that head that Dringoth talks to at the digsite?
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  • geonsocal
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    hmmmmm, someone said 'let's add dragons"
    7318ff0a86c7ab66e2b23138fe183882.jpg

    and by the way, here's a daedric titan:
    daedric-titan.jpg
    ugly drab and well - ugly...

    here however, is a pic of a dragon:
    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS1rzWoyHoDTVzRkJI-QRVlCm7DXUUoPAOjsiPT7NrIayJvauI7

    another gratuitous dragon pic:
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    beautiful, exciting, colorful and COOL!!!
    Edited by geonsocal on December 14, 2016 9:47PM
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  • DovresMalven
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    1000 Vestiges wouldn't stand a chance against a Dragon let alone one of the named ones that have been around for a long time and are very powerful...The Last Dragonborn only makes it look easy because he is a Talos avatar with Talos Voice that he re-learns...he can shout them down.

    Idk my dragonborn has killed a dragon and proceded to be killed by some blind underground molerat elves with bug shell weapons
    Edited by DovresMalven on December 14, 2016 10:13PM
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  • JD2013
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    There's a giant skeleton on top of the rocks of Sentinal beach . Was that a dragon ? There's still gooey parts rotting up there .

    I now need to go and check that out ...

    Could that thing in the Bone Orchard, Grahtwood, also be a dragon? You know, that head that Dringoth talks to at the digsite?

    Yes I am pretty sure that's a dragon.
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    Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!
  • geonsocal
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    folks please - have you all never read any science fiction or ever picked up a comic...time travel and "portals" can solve any lore issues you all may be stuck on...

    bring on the dragons...make skyrim (oops), make eso great again...
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  • Milvan
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    Having dragons during the Alliance war is completely lorewise. Those who said that it don't have no idea what they are talking about.

    EDIT: uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Atlas_of_Dragons
    These are the dragons that are alive during our times and they are not hiding they also maintain close relations with other races. Also Tiber Septim himself had a dragon. Stop making up thins lorewarriors that have no clue about the lore.
    Edited by Milvan on December 15, 2016 12:26AM
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  • Abeille
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    Tryxus wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    There's a giant skeleton on top of the rocks of Sentinal beach . Was that a dragon ? There's still gooey parts rotting up there .

    I now need to go and check that out ...

    Could that thing in the Bone Orchard, Grahtwood, also be a dragon? You know, that head that Dringoth talks to at the digsite?

    Yes I am pretty sure that's a dragon.

    Goradir's skull was originally an absolutely gigantic feline skull, and it was later changed to a dragon skull.

    He makes a point of NOT telling you what he is.
    When you ask him what he is, he answers "Dead". Then, if you insist, asking what he was when he was alive, he says "Much taller".

    I think the best guess is Ehlnofey.
    Milvan wrote: »
    Having dragons during the Alliance war is completely lorewise. Those who said that it don't have no idea what they are talking about.

    EDIT: uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Atlas_of_Dragons
    These are the dragons that are alive during our times and they are not hiding they also maintain close relations with other races. Also Tiber Septim himself had a dragon. Stop making up thins lorewarriors that have no clue about the lore.

    It is all about how it is implemented.
    Having one dragon here and there is lore-friendly. Of course, if it is a known dragon and we know that one in particular is only killed in the future, any encounter that includes him can't end with the dragon dead.
    Having thousands of dragons everywhere, as mounts or as mobs, is not lore-friendly.
    Edited by Abeille on December 15, 2016 12:36AM
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • JD2013
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    Abeille wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Tryxus wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    There's a giant skeleton on top of the rocks of Sentinal beach . Was that a dragon ? There's still gooey parts rotting up there .

    I now need to go and check that out ...

    Could that thing in the Bone Orchard, Grahtwood, also be a dragon? You know, that head that Dringoth talks to at the digsite?

    Yes I am pretty sure that's a dragon.

    Goradir's skull was originally an absolutely gigantic feline skull, and it was later changed to a dragon skull.

    He makes a point of NOT telling you what he is.
    When you ask him what he is, he answers "Dead". Then, if you insist, asking what he was when he was alive, he says "Much taller".

    I think the best guess is Ehlnofey.
    Milvan wrote: »
    Having dragons during the Alliance war is completely lorewise. Those who said that it don't have no idea what they are talking about.

    EDIT: uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Atlas_of_Dragons
    These are the dragons that are alive during our times and they are not hiding they also maintain close relations with other races. Also Tiber Septim himself had a dragon. Stop making up thins lorewarriors that have no clue about the lore.

    It is all about how it is implemented.
    Having one dragon here and there is lore-friendly. Of course, if it is a known dragon and we know that one in particular is only killed in the future, any encounter that includes him can't end with the dragon dead.
    Having thousands of dragons everywhere, as mounts or as mobs, is not lore-friendly.

    Yes I have read that it was originally a massive feline skull but changed to a dragon skull.

    Ehlnofey may be a good guess too, I was just going from the fact that it is a dragon skull, however it may not be necessarily so.

    I am pretty sure there is a Dragon skeleton somewhere underground in Wrothgar too. I *think* in Exile's Barrow.
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    Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!
  • ArchMikem
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    So that's why all the angst...some altruistic loyalty to a fictional fantasy storyline that can be altered to the whim of the creator and author. C'mon... [snip]

    [edited for baiting]

    Lore NEEDS to be maintained. If the facts get twisted and changed for the lulz they're no longer facts are they? The entire universe of Elder Scrolls would become pointless, meaningless gibberish that I'd want absolutely no part of. Your mockery is displeasing to say the least, and also reassuring that thinkers such as yourself hold no power over the Intellectual Property.
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  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    I changed my mind; Lore Warrior sounds MUCH cooler than Lore Junky and I want that to be a forum title instead.

    I will point out that it was only one dragon that Molag Bal captured Boziikkodstrun.
    altruistic

    You keep using that word; I don't think it means what you think it means.
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  • geonsocal
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    wait, wait - i got one for ya...

    so we go to this party hosted by some hot elf lady...only the elf lady named samantha guevenne - turns out to be sanguine himself (don't want to get into too many details of anything that may or may not have gone down with the elf lady/sanguine - but, oh boy does he know how to party)...

    while at the party we drop a little greenmote and down a flaggon of cyrodilic brandy...next thing we know we're transported to some oblivion plane...

    in that plane were suddenly transformed in to a giant and we're surrounded by dozens of dragons (beautifully colored in red, green, black and gold)...and, then get this - we fight all the dragons as a giant (yeah, I know - just felt your mind blowing up there, huh?), with the big club looking thing they have, at one point maybe we even jump on their back and fly around...

    yeah, that'd be fun :) ugh, 30 more minutes at work - what to do now...
    Edited by geonsocal on December 15, 2016 1:38AM
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  • Mojmir
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    Lol so much nerdrage
  • shadowwraith666
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    No, having dragons in ESO is lore breaking. You want to fight dragons get Skyrim, oh and a Daedric titan is NOT a dragon.
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    oh and a Daedric titan is NOT a dragon.

    hello - we know...they're ugly, drab, grey and most importantly - they're soulless...yeah, that's right - medicate on that...
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    altruistic

    You keep using that word; I don't think it means what you think it means.

    Had to look it up myself, and I believe you're right.
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    DonWalking wrote: »
    It wouldn't be possible. The lore states that dragons have been gone for HUNDREDS of years before Skyrim, we're talking about somewhere around 700 years, if not more. While ESO takes place only a few hundred years before Skyrim, like around 200 years. So it just wouldn't work, but I do like your idea, they could possibly make it work with Titans though, that would be sweet.

    your timeline is wrong,

    ESO takes place in the 6th century of the 2nd era 1000yrs in 2E 582

    TES IV is in the 5th century of the 3rd era ending in 3E 433.

    TES V is in the 2nd century of the 4th era in 4E 201, 200 yrs after Oblivion

    The dragon war ended over 4000yrs before ESO in Merethic era ME 1000 (the TES calendar goes backwards before the 1st era) and the dragons are not due to return until the 4th era when the final part of the prophecy is completed, the death of high king torag.
    Edited by shadowwraith666 on December 15, 2016 3:18AM
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  • wenchmore420b14_ESO
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    Milvan wrote: »
    Having dragons during the Alliance war is completely lorewise. Those who said that it don't have no idea what they are talking about.

    EDIT: uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Atlas_of_Dragons
    These are the dragons that are alive during our times and they are not hiding they also maintain close relations with other races. Also Tiber Septim himself had a dragon. Stop making up thins lorewarriors that have no clue about the lore.

    Perhaps you need to re-read what you asked us to read and get an idea of what you are talking about.
    ESO is 2E583....Atlas of Dragons, 2E 373 by Brother Mathnan was written 200 years before our time line.
    I quote your source....
    Grahkrindrog - Slain in 2E 184
    Krahjotdaan - Slain in 1E 2871
    Mirmulnir - Last sighted in the Reach in 2E 212.
    The last dragon seen was 300 years before ESO, also, for better lore sources go to https://www.imperial-library.info/.
    As far as Tiber Septim, he won't even be born till 2E827 and the events you speak of are 400 years away.
    It seems you have no clue about lore, not the Lore Warriors.
    Edited by wenchmore420b14_ESO on December 15, 2016 5:20AM
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