We don't need more Sun shield Templars thank you.

Xrucible wrote: »

The DPS power creep has been going up every patch to the point mechanics can be ignored for most fights in dungeons and trials. What if damage scales of health and not the resource stat you use? That would make a lot of viable and interesting build setups.. You cannot dump all your stats in health as you will not have any sustain. Could be potentially game breaking..

I might agree only to a small part.

Besides that power creep is a fact in MMOs, I am somewhat a fan of a system where players which collect gear, knowledge and experience are able to achieve certain goals somewhat easier, as long as it does not totally trivialize any content.
This is the reward a player usually wants in MMOs, easening of content because of personal effort.

In ESO since OT everything scales with your lvl. There is no outdating of instances as long as the scaling is correct.

I don't think that we have such total trivialization in ESO at moment. In fact I think that especially 4-man-content before TO hit the servers, was even easier and that by not a small amount. The increased boss health in fact prohibits too much evasion of mechanics. Even an awesome group with loads of dps usually needs to do a boss mechanic at least once and if not I am pretty sure, only a few will be able to do it. This was not the case before OT. Add to that the increased difficulty of new vet 1 instance endbosses with one hit mechanics and you have a balanced regulation.

I may agree that the scaling is wrong for normal instances, their difficulty is a joke, but ok, I don't do them.

In addition many players just forget, that there are additional difficulty levels besides normal and vet and vet hm in this game. They are called achievements (speed run, no death run and other achievements which aren't that easy to get)

Therefore I see no need to change anything about scaling in this game at moment. Scaling to health would break PvP and PvP completely. Imagine a former glass cannon doing the same dps as before while having so much health that the player can ignore even the inc damage of onshots attacks in PvE...

Xrucible wrote: »

The DPS power creep has been going up every patch to the point mechanics can be ignored for most fights in dungeons and trials. What if damage scales of health and not the resource stat you use? That would make a lot of viable and interesting build setups.. You cannot dump all your stats in health as you will not have any sustain. Could be potentially game breaking..

Then, instead of maxing stam or mag, max out health, and stam or mag regen.

Nothing will be solved, except for PvP becoming unplayable, introducing the need of buffing even more proc sets, making the problem even worse, as everyone is will be running with heavy armor and 40k + HP.

You can sustain effectively with 15k stamina or magicka (0 stat + max char level + food). I tank with 15k stamina, spamming heroic slash, taunting with pierce armor and using caltrops, parrying, roll doging, without running out of stamina (I'm almost always at max stam in fact) despite having 64 points in magicka and none in health or stamina.

Power creep in PvE is a non-issue, as all the content can be completed easily, and most group content even ran solo. All the content will eventually be trivial, not because of the gear becoming powerful, but because of you gaining experience with the content.

Power creep in PvP, easily solved by removing or nerfing proc sets, which pretty much everyone agrees are pretty broken right now.

Destruent wrote: »

Milvan wrote: »

Xrucible wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Xrucible wrote: »

The DPS power creep has been going up every patch to the point mechanics can be ignored for most fights in dungeons and trials. What if damage scales of health and not the resource stat you use? That would make a lot of viable and interesting build setups.. You cannot dump all your stats in health as you will not have any sustain. Could be potentially game breaking..

@Xrucible

What mechanics can be ignored in vet trials? If you are talking about normal trials it is a mute point since the mechanics are not intended to be overwhelming anyhow.

Cryptical wrote: »

Glurin wrote: »

Xrucible wrote: »

The DPS power creep has been going up every patch to the point mechanics can be ignored for most fights in dungeons and trials. What if damage scales of health and not the resource stat you use? That would make a lot of viable and interesting build setups.. You cannot dump all your stats in health as you will not have any sustain. Could be potentially game breaking..

You'd be surprised at what min/maxers are willing to do to get that last .00001% more DPS out of their builds.

My idea is to make over-specialization into being a glass cannon more of a liability. Add dynamism to the pve ai, so the mobs and bosses are not nearly as predictable.

Just look at how maelstrom gets harder just because the troll sometimes changes his mind about which ice island to break.

The logic is simple - people spec into a glass cannon because they think they can predict the fight enough to avoid taking a glass-shattering punch. Make it unpredictable, make them unable to predict a way around getting shattered, and they will back off from min maxing to the extreme, to ease off from being so glassy will have an effect on the cannon.

@Cryptical

There is no such thing as a glass cannon build ATM. No health is needed to be added to any build for vet trials do be done easily. The game has always been add as much health as you need to survive and that has always been none needed for those able to avoid damage well.

You can call it a glass cannon all you want but that does not make it so.

@Giles.floydub17_ESO

Manticora, Yokeda Rok’dun, Warrior and Mage are the ones I personally have ignored mechanics and just burned the boss in Vet mode.

C'mon, the only one that actually have a MUST DO mechanic is the Mantikora. Tho I would love to see how you skipped mantikora Black Hole mechanic. Any videos or records of that?

I'd rather say, the manticora-fight is the only one of those where you can skip mechanics atm. You may also add rakkhat, where you can skip lunar phase with enough DPS and Serpent where you can skip the orb-phase. On all other bosses you will have to deal with all the mechanics.

Massive problem when 95% of the content mechanics is avoidable with enough DPS. The only challenge in the game is Vtrials? Come now have we candy land online enough at this point

Acrolas wrote: »

For PVP, it's pretty easy.

1. Remove Battle Spirit entirely. All it does is make healers more vulnerable when traveling on their own.
2. Increase stealth visibility by 50% except with potions. Reduce stealth crit by 50% except with potions. Still an option to do substantial damage, but you can't be a professional camper anymore.
3. Dying in PVP to an enemy player incurs the same gear durability losses as dying in PVE. Gives the Impenetrable trait more purpose.
4. Killing an enemy player with a gear proc ability or ultimate awards 50% less AP than a weapon or class ability or light/heavy attack. Rewards good combat choices instead of luck or farming.

Did any streamer *** their pants yet?

Did someone just say gives the impenetrable trait moreeeeee purpose... 88% of cyrodiil will be so happy to hear this....

Remove battle spirit? as ganker I am ALL for this!

You have it in for nighblades its clear to see hahaha but to remove battle spirit and increase stealth vision by 50% is INSANE! ... Do you want to build a 'great, great wall....'?

Eterminix wrote: »

gee i dont remember doing "warm up" runs.... all i remember is shitshow "x-up" runs

oh, and while i'm at it..... i still would like to see Humatiel's 45k unbuffed bloodspawn magsorc parse

Rofl.. @Eterminix A magplar who can only pull 22k unbuffed is talking about dps parses.. Willing to buy more DPS on the easiest class to DPS..

Eterminix wrote: »

@rustic_potato id gladly pull you into spindle and show you my 34k on bloodspawn if you want....

considering I had to listen to you regale me with stories of your asking for parses on each and every normal trial boss from a social guild your training for god knows what I find it difficult to believe you can even list a rotation. When you manage to hit more then 10k below your class ceiling on a properly buffed Atro we'll talk.

@Eterminix Why are you talking about unbuffed parses? What raid groups do you run with? Don't you get any buffs from them? Your unbuffed parses are meaning less if you cannot sustain it in a buffed environment.. Someone doing an unbuffed parse of 32k and cannot sustain a 35k parse in a buffed environment is useless to the raid..