Breton vs High Elf Magicka Sorc?
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✭✭✭✭luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »
I don't understand this math (honest question). The only 3x skill in the game is force pulse and it counts as 3 separate hits at once, so total damage gain is still 4%.
Say base is 3x100 = 300
Passive bonus would be 3x104 = 312
% gained 12/300 = 4%
That's because he's doing it wrong. (It's not additive, which was his assumption.)
4% gained is 4% gained. It's applied to three different elements, but it still results in a 4% increase.
Yours is the correct way to look at it.
Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
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Xogath✭✭✭luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »
I don't understand this math (honest question). The only 3x skill in the game is force pulse and it counts as 3 separate hits at once, so total damage gain is still 4%.
Say base is 3x100 = 300
Passive bonus would be 3x104 = 312
% gained 12/300 = 4%
I believe it's because there's 3 ranks of the passive, granting 4% each.
Edit: nevermind, it's 2/3/4%.Edited by Xogath on December 13, 2016 4:13PM0 -
HarbingerOfSoul ShrivenBreton more tanky.
Altmer a slight bonus on damage (4%).
Hard to say who has more magicka at disposal.
Please DON'T trust people who say it's actually 12% bonus (because 3 elements). It's just 4% to whole damage, that's it.0 -
Duukar✭✭✭✭✭Let me continue -
Spell resists on a shield stacking sorc in PvP is USELESS.... Exchanging that for an extra 4% dmg on elemental spells is a no brainer.
Now lets analyze the final part of the puzzle. 3% cost reduction vs 9% regen.
This is easy to do because we can talk about it in terms of CP costs.
3% reduction costs approx < 10 ish points.
9% Regen costs approx < 25 ish points. HURRAY FOR 2nd MAINTENANCE THANKS ZOS!!!
So in terms of usefulness in PvP and really just generally Altmer wins in all categories.
Useless spell resists vs 4% bonus dmg to all elements. - ALTMER
3% cost reduction for ~10 CPs points vs 9% regen for ~ 25 points - ALTMER
10% bonus magicka - DRAW
I am a min maxer. My sorc is an Altmer.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Take Breton for the cost reduction passive and max magicka bonus.
That. And not being a damn elf.2 -
Julianos✭✭✭✭✭I hate altmer most personally but altmer is the best for every magicka build for pvp and pve.0
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Same max magica
Less CP to get the high elf regen then Breton reduction.
4% more damage from majority of your DPS compared to spell resistance which is irrelevant for DPS, especially shields.
High elf is a way better choice.0 -
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✭If you like Bretons then make a Breton.
The differences aren't going to make or break you in pvp. DAGGERFALL COVENANTNA PCFormer Vehemence MemberOnistka Valerius <> Artemis Renault <> Gonk gra-Ugrash <> Karietta <> Zercon at-Rusa <> Genevieve Renault <> Ktaka <> Brenlyn Renault1 -
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✭High elf for DPS but if you're not min/max Breton is ok.Xbox one EU
8 Flawless conquerors on all class specs (4 stam, 4 magicka)
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Funkopotamus✭✭✭✭✭I swapped from Breton to HE and I will tell you.. The difference was HUGE! DPS is a lot higher on a HE compared to Breton.. Those percentages really matter with a class that the multipliers are for large chunk burst damage!Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!" Sallington0 -
darthsithis✭✭✭High elf for pve for sure. The passives make the storm calling tree and destro abilities/light and heavy attacks beefier for sure.
But yeah, high elf. Endgame u want more dps since sorcs are so tanky anyways with hardened ward, power surge healing with your aoe/dots etc.
Edited by darthsithis on December 13, 2016 7:31PMMessage me if you want to do trials/dungeons, or need a trading guild! Flawless conqueror magsorc with a bad sense of armor fashion.0 -
darthsithis✭✭✭luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »
I don't understand this math (honest question). The only 3x skill in the game is force pulse and it counts as 3 separate hits at once, so total damage gain is still 4%.
Say base is 3x100 = 300
Passive bonus would be 3x104 = 312
% gained 12/300 = 4%
You are right. Percent gained is 4% for force pulse per attack. since there are three elements in that attack, do 312/300 you get 1.04 increase. It seems like it would be 12%, but objectively is still 4%....the confusion is because you actually get three attacks at a 4% buff each. That does not total 12%, because you're always dividing that "12%" by 3 in a sense. Same reason why elemental succession set bonus looks amazing, then you realize it's 500 spell power divided by 3 at any given time haha.
The point is tha 4% is huge tho.
Liquid lightning, wall of elements, boundless storm, the burning effect from force pulse, force pulse itself, light and heavy attacks, and ilambris all hitting 4% harder individually adds the hell up my man. Add grothdar, burning spell weave, fire destro ulti, and things get melted quick. I ditched kena and kverload for maelstrom and have been getting my highest scores and least deaths so far!Edited by darthsithis on December 13, 2016 7:37PMMessage me if you want to do trials/dungeons, or need a trading guild! Flawless conqueror magsorc with a bad sense of armor fashion.0
